Pirates Event: Update Needed

First of all ty for the patches on the pirates. I would just like to give an option on this because it has become quiet an issue in the game. I have noticed everyday that there are some high levels that sit in boats all day and ship kill people just to take their maps. I think Pirates should be only able to be accessed once a day for the indivdual player this way everyone on the game can atleast get across because trying to do daily event for successfull crossing on pirates has become impossible due to the high levels spawn killing other players. I would just like to recommend this become a once a day event that each player can only access this event 1 time a day and wait a full 24 hours before they can sail out again. this will reduce the amount of players not being able to complete the event. Thank you for listening. <3 :o

I really hope they don't go with this suggestion as it takes away yet another avenue of PvP for me. If you don't like being attacked, I'd suggest trying a different game as this is supposed to be a PvP game.

If the high lvl toon is in a ship, they have a map piece - ie. they can not take your map piece. Caribbean is designed to foster Guild interaction. The bigs helping the smaller ones.

not seeing the point

The point is you are trying to take a way one of the only remaining forms of PvP in the game outside of the Arena

Heaven palace and the wild is already there for that reason.

Heaven Palace is a weekend event only, and in the wild you can never find anyone to attack because they are either out questing, or they are in the city. Pirates is the only avenue I get to PvP anymore. And so far it appears that most everyone who has seen this thread agrees with me on this issue.

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Originally Posted by xBarbie

not seeing the point

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lol even if you had that font size 1,000... i still think the ones that are benefiting from it won't EVER understand our side of the view.

i agree 100% with you barbie,
i was pvping and I would view stats made sure they were less than me, and take there coins/credits, and i would make 5-10 mil within 2-3 hours... they fixed it...

and i agree they should fix the boats.

otherwise let's stick with their viewpoint ... it's pvp... make it so we can view stats before we goto pvp out in the open so i can exploit the lower power kids all day and all night like the ones that are on the boat have been doing for the past few days.

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Originally Posted by Jupitor

Heaven Palace is a weekend event only, and in the wild you can never find anyone to attack because they are either out questing, or they are in the city. Pirates is the only avenue I get to PvP anymore. And so far it appears that most everyone who has seen this thread agrees with me on this issue.

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I agree with Jupitor 100%

Okay, how about changing it so that once you have successfully sailed pirates you can no longer access it? It may be that way now for all i know - I can tell you that since the beginning of beta AND the live server I have only made it across twice. I do like that when a large player attacks they will not be able to regenerate between hits.

Its also highly frustrating to go to the pirates screen and see that nearly every ship has one person in it of 1.5m and higher. And its very frustrating to be the only boat sailing and get attacked by a player that is NOT sitting in a boat or sailing.

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Originally Posted by Nix

Okay, how about changing it so that once you have successfully sailed pirates you can no longer access it? It may be that way now for all i know - I can tell you that since the beginning of beta AND the live server I have only made it across twice. I do like that when a large player attacks they will not be able to regenerate between hits.

Its also highly frustrating to go to the pirates screen and see that nearly every ship has one person in it of 1.5m and higher. And its very frustrating to be the only boat sailing and get attacked by a player that is NOT sitting in a boat or sailing.

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Once you've made your voyages for the day the button does disappear shortly there after, however that doesn't matter at all as once you are out of voyages you can't attack anyone, anyway.

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Originally Posted by Nix

Its also highly frustrating to go to the pirates screen and see that nearly every ship has one person in it of 1.5m and higher.

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well work as a team get someone huge to take u on a boat ride its called team work right. :)

everyone is failing to understand the overall message.

make it so you can't view stats before you do this so called "pvp" otherwise , there is no logical reason why the ones with higher power will not exploit this flaw on the boats.


honestly what is the difference between viewing stats on the field before we pvp TO make sure it's a for sure win, compared to VIEWING stats on a boat to make sure its a for sure win?

am i drunk?

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Originally Posted by uogamers50_3212737

everyone is failing to understand the overall message.

make it so you can't view stats before you do this so called "pvp" otherwise , there is no logical reason why the ones with higher power will not exploit this flaw on the boats.


honestly what is the difference between viewing stats on the field before we pvp TO make sure it's a for sure win, compared to VIEWING stats on a boat to make sure its a for sure win?

am i drunk?

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You CAN view stats on the boat, all you have to do is hover over their little circle below their names to see their power.

True God and Jupitor, how many times have you successfully finished pirates?

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Originally Posted by Nix

True God and Jupitor, how many times have you successfully finished pirates?

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For me in beta server was always 3 times, on live server sometimes 3 sometimes 2 thats part of the game.

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Or better... just make a cap of power above the player's on the ship that you can attack. So for example if 2 players on the ship are 250k and 300k power, only someone with a maximum of 350k power can attack that ship. That would make it much more fair.

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Originally Posted by Jupitor

You CAN view stats on the boat, all you have to do is hover over their little circle below their names to see their power.

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hehe.

reread my message.

if you are going to allow exploitation on the boats, then switch back to the old pvp style and allow us to exploiter lower power players since we are NOT able to view stats on the PVP "field".


make it so we can view stats of the other person so us "higher" level and more power players can attack the weaker ones like the boats. It's only fair if we allow this on the PVP field as well,

why limit all the benefits of exploitation of viewing stats before "PVP" on a boat when we can share this exploitation all over the game on the field too!

boats = view stats to make sure you can win before attacking
old pvp = view stats to make sure you can win before attacking


new pvp = can't view stats to make sure you will win before attack
new boats = can view stats to make sure you can win before attacking


a flaw? of course not if your exploiting it!
a flaw? if you noticed the same players day after day taking advantage of everyone else on the boats?

whats the difference between me camping the "pvp field" checking stats to get millions of coins without risking a single loss?

i mean why would they make it so we COULDN'T view stats before we went to attack on the "pvp field" ?

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Originally Posted by uogamers50_3212737

boats = view stats to make sure you can win before attacking
old pvp = view stats to make sure you can win before attacking


new pvp = can't view stats to make sure you will win before attack
new boats = can view stats to make sure you can win before attacking


a flaw? of course not if your exploiting it!
a flaw? if you noticed the same players day after day taking advantage of everyone else on the boats?

whats the difference between me camping the "pvp field" checking stats to get millions of coins without risking a single loss?

i mean why would they make it so we COULDN'T view stats before we went to attack on the "pvp field" ?

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Here's the problem with your stance in my opinion. The "exploiting" you are talking about in pirates is people like me sitting in boats. People CAN check my power before they attack me trying to take my map piece, obviously they don't and I revenge them for it. It is their fault for not seeing if they could beat me in the first place, so how is this an exploit?

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Originally Posted by Jupitor

Here's the problem with your stance in my opinion. The "exploiting" you are talking about in pirates is people like me sitting in boats. People CAN check my power before they attack me trying to take my map piece, obviously they don't and I revenge them for it. It is their fault for not seeing if they could beat me in the first place, so how is this an exploit?

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nice spin.

my stance has been, i can just view stats, make sure your power is less than me on the pvp field then attack and collect your coins/credits (semilar to boats, view stats, make sure your power is less than me to take the map to collect coins/credits)

based on your stance, you are saying I will sit out in the field, people will look at my stats, realize that they can't beat me and attack me to try to "steal my coins/credits" (treasure map) then I click revenge attack since they attacked someone that is greater than them.


how did we get so off topic?

view stats on pvp field = BAD IDEA , they changed it
view stats on boats = GOOD IDEA, they haven't changed it


theres nothing wrong with farming T-MAPS to obtain rewards, but there is a problem farming coins/credits on the PVP field.

the issue is one can view stats to ONES advantage. compared to a working model that was just recently changed because of that "ONES advantage over the weaker one"

very semilar to me jumping on a boat and having a higher power level player take my T-MAP and finishing it off to get the reward from that T-MAP.

not only in the pvp field that you can use teleport out to city , but on the boat, you have to wait 10 mins to make sure no one else is checking the boats to see if anyone is weaker is online to steal the maps

Atleast in the field the lower power players didn't have to make sure to get permission of 10 mins to walk through a area without getting attacked from someone like myself that would be camping the area for weak players to walk by or should i say "sail" by...

I don't know why they do it, but they do. This thread is about pirates, it isn't about the wild.

How to view stats:

Whisper the person anything

Click on person's name, Check profile


To the TS: Just because you couldnt achieve something doesnt mean everyone else mustnt be able to achieve it also. World doesnt revolve around you fyi

if targetpower is less than mypower then
call attack
else
call search4target
end if

all the ones that are exploiting this flaw on the boats aren't risking anything when they know the other persons powerlevel. before the pre-calculated fight

they get huge reward without ANY risk, just like I was getting huge reward without ANY risk when they had the option "VIEW STATS" before I attacked random people out on the field to gain coins/credits/rep.

to remove 'view stats' on PVP field, but not on "PVP boats" is a flaw.
^If this simple concept is to hard to comprehend then please question your comprehension level.

herby, do you really think that wont get patched?

if not then why wouldn't they just keep view stats on pvp field.

maybe we should just start over

Why would they take View Stats off PVP field?

anyone know?

I'm sure it's not because I could have a slight advantage on the fight if I knew the other persons power level.

So I wonder...Why would they ever take off "View Stats" on the pvp field.

It's for impatient people (a lot or the majority).

Patient people always have a way of getting stats.

One can look for the person's stat page by page in rankings window.

There's no bug in whisper then check stats either, as you would be whispering the person you'll be attacking.

What do you gain if you finish the t-map.