--- Suggestion: Have one Realm that's a pure PK arena ---
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--- Suggestion: Have one Realm that's a pure PK arena ---
good idea, hope they would so it
I agree it should be a non PvP area. Number of times I was battling in Heroic Realm only to be attacked by someone in the middle of my battle. So In addition to whatever goodies the attacker got did they also get to claim the rewards for beating the "monster"?
This is something that needs to happen. It's gotten to where you cant do a boss battle because of people attacking you as soon as you start the fight. What gets me, is I go there looking to get drops from the boss battle to up gear, and even though I win the battle against the boss (it shows as greyed out afterward), I cant claim my rewards for it because of being attacked by other players. Doesn't matter if I win or lose to the person attacking, I still don't get my drops for it. Whats even worse is I have to wait until the next day to try again for that boss, and the same thing happens again when i try it. This definitely needs to be changed I agree with Kyleena 100%.
Villainx makes an interesting point. Personally I've only been attacked once while fighting in this area. But if people cant even complete the boss fight and claim any rewards, that is defeating the point of the area.
So you should be shielded during fighting the boss and while you standing near the boss. Then you can leave it be a pvp area . If you get shielded while say your near the boss or in that area the boss walks around that should be fine
then you can only be attacked when you port in or you lose
See the thing is, they aren't waiting for people to come into heroic realm to attack, they are waiting until after they have come in, and have started the boss battle to purposely cause people to not get their drops. They know exactly what they are doing. And before someone says "That's how it goes in PvP"... Those are NPC bosses. Its one thing to attack someone in PvP area like arena or the wild for that matter, its another thing entirely to sabotage their npc quests just because they can.
they are looking into ways to fix this. its has been said that even if ppl do hit you when a boss fight happends u still get all loot from that fight. fights are won or loss from the moment u start the fight there for all loot will be in bags.
If u were ment to win and u get a free bubble if u do get hit.
I can confirm for a fact that you do NOT get the drop if you win the boss fight, but are attacked in pvp mode. Ive had it happen to where ive won the boss fight, AND the PvP but still didnt get drops, and ive had it happen where i won the boss fight and LOST the pvp and didnt get the drops. The issue is that the screen where you claim the rewards doesn't come up if you are attacked during the boss fight. I can think of multiple ways to fix it...
1. Make it to where in the heroic realm you have auto shield. (Though, this could cause another type of exploit where people can not be hit because they hang out in Heroic Realm to keep shield on)
2. Make Heroic Realm a neutral zone like aerie is (nobody shows as red to anyone)
3. Change it to where PvP battles do not go live on the opponents screen (like it does in arena, and give the player the option to replay like arena does. I think this would be the best option outright. But I would say leave the live feed open for carribean pirates as that area is specificly for that kind of battling)
4. Leave the diplo alone, allowing people to continue to attack in heroic realm, and add in an unclaimed items check in the icons on top of the screen. (This personally seems like it would be a good idea, as that would work for people who are attacked via revenge in quest mode during quest bosses also)
Just some ideas to help smooth out gameplay and keep NPC seperate from PvP. I would really love to see options 3 and 4 implemented.
Making the respawn point random in heroic realm helps fight against auto clickers
Starting out when you got hit in there you didn't get anything and you'd have to wait till it resets to go and fight that boss again but i noticed now they you actually get the loot (if you are already in the middle of the boss fight and we're going to win anyways) also now if you get attacked in there by another player and lose you can go back in if you haven't beat the boss. Still rather annoying when players camp out in there to farm other players.
not true. I was just fighting the envoy, and was attacked by a player right before i was going to give final blow to envoy... I won the pvp battle, but it still took me back to aerie city, and the boss is now greyed out with a 15 hour cooldown.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoobieLover
HILARIOUS little bit of info to add... the person who started this thread is one of the main people doing the exploiting lmao.
Nope no exploit. I just went there to complete my hero run and i saw a bunch of reds.
I don't camp.
kk, well at any rate, ty for the shield buff ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyleena
I don't think this game is going to make it. Great graphics, but currently too lop sided to coiners, like evony on steroids. As long as you can put in a few hundred dollars at the start so you have a gem advantage, you will do well by killing small players at will. Maybe this can be fixed by not allowing players the ability to attack smaller players. Say, if a player have more than a 15% power advantage over someone, they can't attack. If they want to fight, make them drop their power levels down.
hehehe kyleena we all do that but when they get hit they call us all kind of names :P ooh and hello kyleenaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyleena
Remember, this is a BETA game and people should be trying all kinds of things to see how they work and don't work. It's all going to be erased once the beta is done and you will start on level 1 again if you choose to join the game.
i agree heroic realms should b exactly what they say, no PVP allowed!
Tynon Devs
I agree with a majority of the players who have been voicing their concerns both here and in the game itself. Please make the Boss Battlefields related to the Baal Events and the Heroic Realm PVP Free areas like the city.
Thanks.
From the thread "Heroic Realm Reduced To Cowards Realm" started by SaCr3d:
(apologies beforehand as I don't use these editors frequently and I'm just going to cut and paste. You can see the original there)
I posted second mentioning that this will turn into a nightmare for new players and will actively discourage them from the game. I said specifically that this is a form of GRIEFING. Nothing heroic about that!
Here is what Dawnseeker replied there and I believe that is the official stance. Although others I've talked with have said they were interrupted while winning and didn't get to collect the chest with the goods and got beamed back to Aerie city with nothing and a used up 5 stamina and that particular heroic boss now unavailable until midnight server time. But according to Dawnseeker:
"This is a PvP game. You can only be attacked once and then you get a shield for 30 minutes.
By the way, the thing where combat with the boss appears to be "interrupted" when you're hit in PvP is a display issue only. Loot etc. is not affected.
All combat in Tynon is calculated instantly and then the battle displayed graphically for the involved player(s). Even if your combat appears to be interrupted, the outcome has already been determined. If you won the fight against the boss, you will automatically receive the associated loot, and then the battle with the other player will take place.
I hope this makes sense."
Yup... makes a lot of sense... And yeah, "This is a war game" - I hear you... I'm just choosing to ignore you.
Burnin in the Fire Realm...
wel next 1 i do illtry take vid and hope i get attacked then they cant say it doesnt happen
well thanks to all the whining they changed heroic realms now the game is horrible. heres the easiest solution
restore the relams to tyheway they were. ANd reduce the cost of rep to go up in rank then make it so you can can only attack people 1 rank above, the same, or 1 level below your rank.
Matt, how did they change the heroic realms? I did my heroics today before the update, so I genuinely don't know what you are referring to.
For future reference, if you have a complaint about something you should explain the complaint instead of just saying something changed, as they may change several facets of the same aspect of gameplay, then they would not know which part of the change the feedback is about.
Vaki,
He is referring to the recent change of heroic realm, to a no-pvp zone. (a great idea if you ask me, so people can attack heroic bosses instead of getting "door-checked").
Id like to state that you do in fact get your rewards when you complete the boss even if you are attacked during it by someone camping. This has happened to me 3 or 4 times a day by Kyleena. She has a nack for waiting for me to get half way through the boss before killing me. I think she has killed me about 15 or 20 times in this fashion. Each time i have received my reward for killing the boss.
As mentioned, the boss items drop regardless if you get interrupted or not.
To check if you killed the boss, click on heroic realms and see if the boss is grayed out.
I'd suggest for a pure PK arena though. Like a Heroic Realms map around 4x bigger with a reward for staying alive for a specific amount of time. And no shield option.
:)
Nope, this adjustment I believe will serve to get people out and about into the various zones within the game. The open air lands where PvP should be. I think if anything they need to introduce additional items or gear that can be crafted/upgraded that would be an incentive to get everyone out into the zones around the game instead of cluttering up the main city and causing lag.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169_9033280
Also you can still attack in the Heroic Realm as long as you are within 5 levels of the person you are hitting, how do I know? Tested it out and I got attacked myself tonight in there as well by someone 2 levels above me.
I think this is a good change, making it so you can't just spam people in a zone where people did not really go to PvP. Yes I am away of this being a PvP game but in the same respect would you want someone hanging out in your bathroom and punching you in the crotch everytime you went in to take a dump lol?
wow, im actually sitting here laughing. I guess that is one way to look at it. Great analogy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rednaz
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Originally Posted by Kyleena
Kyleena I like this idea, I think the Arena is awesome BUT I think it would be even cooler if we had an actual Arena where it was a total free for all.
I agree with you, excellent suggestions and 3 and 4 would be my choice as well