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Here are the latest changes!
- Realm Bosses: When Baal or Cerberus reaches low HP, they will enter a dying state. All players will be returned to the entrance and the boss’ health will be hidden. This change is to give everyone a chance at the killing blow.
- The World Map has been revamped so you can better track your game progression.
- Arena rank progression in the lower ranks of the arena has been increased, so that players can advance from the low ranks more quickly.
Great news!!!
Morgan approves :p
Awesome patch.
The only one I'm still undecided on is the tavern one, gonna see how that plays out for me first before passing judgement on it.
Yea I tried out the tavern after reading this... cost the same and didn't get a spirit "every time".Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
I just tried it out too and didn't work for me either. I then looked at the patch notes they mailed out in-game and it wasn't included in them. I guess they must not have implemented it quite yet. Doesn't look like the cost increase has been implemented yet either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shock
On a side note, I love the world map changes.
what about the NPC 5 bonus? any idea when that will start?
Sorry I jumped the gun on a few of those and have removed them. Mea culpa.
I like it! :)
1 question though, has it to do with this patch that I can't send mails anymore? I'm only able to use the buttons "select all" and "delete".
This is crazy. The way banish events were was perfectly fine. It required each player to push to do better and better each day in regards to formation, runes, and heroes. This required skill, knowledge, experimentation, and perseverance. Sure this still applies for people trying to make top 10, but you have now COMPLETELY nerfed any skill/knowledge requirement for last hit. And before people go off saying it was only about who could have the biggest final hit, not true. I am by no means a super-powered player, and yet I would get last hit regularly because I better understood the mechanics. Now you chuck that out the window and say "This change is to give everyone a chance at the killing blow." WHY?! This change penalizes players who are your core base, that have been with you from beta, have helped you all develop your game by exposing flaws, bugs, needed improvements, and glitches. Repayment for this: lets make things even so anyone with absolutely no knowledge of anything game related can get the killing blow. I would love to see the rationale behind this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
This feature is kinda cool, since you can now see the boss you are on and it makes it easier to discuss in GC and get help. I am interested to know if it was intended that clicking on the quest while in Aerie city take you to the portal/map instead of to the actual quest? This seems pointless, IMO. If thats the way it's intended, then its working, otherwise its broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
Again, where is the rationale for this? Currently I'm rank 6 and i can see the following positions: 8, 5, 4, 2, 1. Why? the way arena was worked fine, and allowed you to move up just fine. There seems to be an ulterior motive here for making people come down in arena rank. TBH this isn't a huge deal, but this change seems silly. Some people in my guild can see a spread of 15 from their highest to lowest bracket position. If people wanted to move before, they could do so very easily. Now if someone ahead of you 3 positions has stakes you want to fight for, you may or may not see them, not to mention if someone in guild tries to save someone else's stakes, its a crap shoot as to whether they will get them in their bracket. Also, in Arena now you cant see everyone who can see you, meaning people can attack me that I can not attack...how is this fair? It's like we are flying quasi blind in Arena too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
I usually don't come on here to comment on changes but the Banish and Arena changes just make no sense whatsoever. I would appreciate a more logical response as to why the company felt these changes were improvements.
This patch is horrible
I didnt see my final round with Cerebus
I didnt even get rep coins or credits for my final round
Everything loads slower now
I hate it HATE IT HATE IT.
This is stupid
this game went live, stop changing the RULES OF THE GAME.
The map change is fine. Noone really cares.
I am out rep coins and credits form final attack on cerebus. yeah its only a little, but it will add up over time. AND REP IS HARD ENOUGH TO GET.
The arena change is dumb, it removes some strategy from the game
It may be time to contact paypal, this is not the game I paid to play any more.
When will the LVL 5 Guild Award be implemented and what compensation will you provide to those guild members whose guilds have reached level 5 but have not been receiving the bonus? I spend a ton of money on this game and contribute lots and lots of those purchased gems to my guild. So do many others or we wouldn't have been able to reach level 5. You need to implement the bonus and compensate those who have been not getting the bonus.
Changing the banish event that was working fine is silly when other promised functionality doesn't even exist yet.
You need to work on your priorities.
I believe it was said in another thread that the level 5 city's bonus would be implemented next week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greggor
I have to say this new cerberus and baal patch is very bad. It makes it where the people who really care and put alot of time and effort into growing fast and trying to become the number 1 player is being hurt because what took skill to get up to now is pure dumb luck. Im the highest ranked player in the fire realm on Spark of Hornmusta and now there is no point in me to even try for last hits. I might as well not waste the credits trying to boost for the event.
My server just took down Cerberus... this is the worst addition to a game I have ever seen. His health doesn't disappear at 1 million, we kill him and then it disappears and then he 1k strikes instantly...
Lucky you, I was wiating for the "FINAL BATTLE" and never saw it. didnt get a final round in fact the timer costs me 2 rounds probably and so I lost credits coins and rep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shock
I have no idea what happens in the FINAL BATTLE
NOT liking the patch changes.
Cere was awful... felt like you were stuck there for 3 rounds and no clue where he was at. The smack talk from Cere was cute, but totally unnecessary.
Got my Cere awards, but they seemed to be smaller than usual for spot 9.
ALL of my speakers are gone. I had 10 after reset, and now have none. Refreshed several times and no speakers.
Power loss due to runes not loading this morning following refreshes. Took 4 refreshes for them to load.
NO change on my world map. Zip, zilch, zero.
AND THE BIG ONE-
ARENA IS WAY MESSED UP.
1> Ranking in challenge spots way off. Mine currently reads 11, 10, 9, 7, 4 Makes it hard to move up when likely wins are not in my arena due to this.
2> Win/loss list below avatars not visible. No idea if anyone attacked me recently and lost, and my win in arena not showing up.
3> Top 50 list does not match in-arena list.
Very frustrated. I have worked hard to get where I am at and these issues are holding me back. And yes, I did submit a report on this.
Congrats Tynon... You do not cease to thrill us with your own incompetence. Now when someone changes realms to chase after a leader card or gem stake in the high ranks of another realm, they will easily overshoot the goods! You are extremely short-sighted in your goals and what you are in implementation is something I just cannot write here. So congrats on greed, now those gem stakes and leader cards will be unattainable and your bottom line will grow and grow thanks to the 150 gems people will spent fruitlessly chasing after them until they realize (far too late) that they will always overshoot the goal.
Same with gem stakes that you see in front of you - since every move forward now jumps you 10 spaces. A strategy to avoid bumping into your fellow guildmates and still have ample room to chase after gems and other stakes is now gone from the Arena.
I guess you have never heard about a tried and true rule of engineering... "If it works, don't F**k with it"... Well, now you have and you've given the Arena a real nasty case of Herpes. Incurable and with frequent outbreaks... Something I guess has to be said about art imitating life - and your servers physically being in Las Vegas, Nevada! (Cheap servers, cheap hookers, lots of "bugs"...)
The changes on Cerb/Baal -- well, it makes it much less likely that the player in the top position takes the final blow as well - First time I've seen the top players in all five realms NOT get the final blow, EVER. It's usually the same person in 4 out of 5 realms that takes the top position and the killing blow. That is going to generate a lot of howls from them. But it is a good change and I hope that one stays - What took you so long to implement it?
I had more to say but why bother? You just want to hear positive feedback so... Keep up the wonderful work you are doing :) Everyone is so happy with your efforts! Happy-happy, joy-joy! Let's buy some more gems everyone! It's just wonderful! The best game ever! Your programmers are probably the best in the world! And your servers are so state-of-the-art! I'm so glad I'm a VIP... (although I do play a basic account on a different server from my VIP account).
Enjoy your game everybody... while you can!
Oh and the map change is HORRIBLE
Now if I click the quest I have to navigate to the portal?
Then pick the boss
then go to the beginning of the area
then get warped to the boss area.
WASTE OF TIME AND ADDS LAG
And then even if I leave the boss area and click BATTLE then I have to do it all over again?
WHY WASTE MY TIME
So far arena hasn't been any different for me.
You can battle someone 7 ranks behind you and then some to the left and right of you are missing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
[QUOTE=Kyleena;12977]I made a thread about this rather backward change Tynon has implemented in Beta:
I am very dissapointed that this made it into Live servers.
They might as well have just given all players a random number and pick one of them to be the 10M coin winner.
One can literally join at the last minute and have a chance at killing the Boss.
A very backward move by Tynon, this one is.
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The change with the Cerb/Baal boss is very good. If the developers ORIGINAL intention was to give the 10M randomly, as runes are given randomly and Tavern results are quite random except for certain VIP players who spend gems to flip more cards, then this is simply being consistent with the way the game runs. The way it worked for the longest time was the #1 or #2 player always got the final blow. 95% of the time is "always" - don't give me that crap about "everyone has a chance"... that is a bunch of bull at this point of the game. Early on, perhaps... Now? Heck no! It's quite obvious that the only ones complaining about this change are the people who rank top 3 in the Boss events. The top player in this that is complaining here the most gets over 13M in gold coins from the damage done to baal or cerb each time. That is 26 Mil gold coins per day. Does that 10M each event have to be yours each time as well? Are you really THAT greedy? What is wrong with a little random in this so that the wealth is spread out?
And the comments about skill and such? What skill is there in camping out waiting to hit when the numbers are low? And what skill is there in spending 2 or 4 or however many gems on that last "instant revive" click? It's the same as the glitch that existed with the Noble Lady - timing her disappearance to click on her to get the maximum benefit prior to anyone else from her next appearance point. Make it random and keep it that way. If you don't like it, then don't participate in those events. I don't like Pirates so I don't participate in that at all. I sure don't like supplementing the mega-coiner's map needs and I get what I need from guild wars in terms of those 10 points I don't get making a sail, so I get my 10 gems from the assistant daily. I just let my map rot.
And Dawnseeker has a great comment to make to those of you who are howling the most - if you don't like it don't let the door hit you on the way out! If you don't like it, don't participate! (Yeah right, I know you'll be there to collect your rewards LOL!) Now of course I have some harsh words about the Arena changes - but not on this. And even on that other stuff, I have my own fix for it. I won't participate in those things that I do not like. That won't stop me from enjoying the parts of this game that I do like but it may decrease the time I spend playing.
The coiners you keep complaining about are the people keeping this game going. Without coiners there is no money so there is no game. When people are working hard to get where they are and people eith 30times less power who dont even play everyday join and get last hit even tho they did nothing the entire time makes it not worth the time to fight him. And to that comment Nether if you dont like what they are writing dont read it.
Hehehe I hear that so often, you think it makes me believe you? Mega coiners are few while those of us who coin moderately or a little are the norm. I coined - is my money not as good as yours? Maybe you want to comment about my skin color while you are at it?
So if you are so darn good what about all the coins you are racking up getting 1st or 2nd place? Well, I have a solution for you. Don't participate. Boycott Baal and Cerb. They won't be killed without you. Try it out, we won't miss you ;)
Vatoloco why do you keep trying to bring race in to every discussion with people who disagree with you. I find it very demeaning and wrong please stop - I would ask moderators to actually remove both this comment and vatoloco's race comments on this thread and on the other similar thread about this matter
Finally see something different in my arena. As of posting this I am rank 30 and can see 28,27,26,25, and 19. Interesting change to say the least honestly not sure how this will affect my gameplay if at all.
I am making a point and finally it seems to be getting across to you. Some of us coin some of us don't, some of us coin less than others. Leveling the game field is what the change is about and the change for Baal/Cerb is a very good change. Those of you who coin heavily will more than likely remain top 3 in any Baal/Cerb event. Why be so upset over some randomness in the final blow? 10M coins - you make more than that in the damage you do to Baal/Cerb. And if you read my name who might get a clue... Especially when you read my avatar.
I highly doubt it will stop any of you from continuing to participate in the Baal/Cerb events. And the argument about someone logging in for the final 5 minutes of Baal/Cerb and getting the final hit? Well, that is part of the game and has always been. If you cannot accept some randomness in a game, then this is certainly not the game to play. Anyone want to pick a card?
Vato you apparently are a very strange person if you think you need to point out your skin color or anyone else's to get your point across, and have derailed this thread into your own personal area to bash people for you own racially motivated reasons. I am highly disappointed that the moderators have not stepped in and removed your racial statements
agreed one hundred percent.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyleena
just want to say that the arena change that was made today is stupid. already you have it so that you can not grab stuff from a vip player because they have AUTO COLLECT now you make it so that as you are moving up the ladder you over shoot gems so you can not even grab some on the way up. so anyone else see this as a problem?
sure as if the advantage for those that can afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a game is not enough make changes so that players that have tried to support the game with small purchases are now shunned as well. wtg support who knows with these sort of changes even the lower level PAYING players will stop playing as well. don't fix stuff like the tavern no that would make to much sense never have i played a game where there is suppose to be a shuffle and you click the same card over and over ( more than 200 times ) and never does a gold card land on it . sort of takes away the allusion of being random.
Exactly, and why can some people hit people lower ranked then them and others can't How is that right in any sense of the imagination. I've had people tell me that they got all their rep for the day by hitting a lower ranked person over and over and over non stop until they maxed out on rep. Why should this be happening. How does that allow people to move up easier? It doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyleena
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Originally Posted by VatoLoco
Race has nothing to do with this game so honestly its childish that first thing you want to bring up is someone color. The fact that people coin is to get ahead and get the advantage. People arent going to spend money when they wont get anything out of it. New servers like Spark of Hornmusta that im on atm you get maybe 500k coin from fighting him when he has 10mil health the 10mil is a big thing and people get mad when you see a person who just joined the server go and get last hit when they do nothing.
another change with the portal needs to be fixed as well if you are defeated by a boss now you have to travel through the world then through the maze again sorry to tell you but that is not an improvement it is a step backwards. come on fire the 12 year old you have making decisions and hire a grown up. stop trying to figure out how you can get the players with extra money to spend more more more and try and make the game better not worse. i can understand wanting to make improvements but some of the changes made today will do nothing more than make some of the paying players quit playing because you are taking away to many parts of the game that they like.
I agree this change is horrible - WAIT ALL THE CHANGES ARE HORRIBLEQuote:
Originally Posted by thetruepoolgod_5607735
Don't worry guys I have a feeling one of the patches coming up should have some much desired changes.
hmmmmm i desire they undo the changes they made today is that what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
Their patch for the last week is this? Adding things that don't need to be added, ignoring the broken things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
Whats the point in jumping 10-xx places in arena when the rewards are absolutely useless anyway? There is no incentive whatsoever to move to the top 20(unless you actually have a chance at getting into the top 3 and staying there) at all, and now you have just taken away all the fun in moving up slowly through arena...Whoever thought this up should be replaced by a monkey, since a monkey is cheaper to employ and will have the same ideas...
Hi just want to say the patch changes today were abysmal.
I won't comment on the world boss last hit change, it's already been said and though I can see where devs are coming from, I disagree with it.
The portal world-map change is ridiculous. While it may help with quest, it does not help with going to a certain location as you took out the names. It would be nice if we could get a combination of the two, so that we can see quest progress on the popup, but also the old map if we so choose to close the quest window for better navigation.
The arena change is also bad. Part of the fun in climbing arena from low ranks is that you can collect the stakes along the way (gem stakes are not all, treasure chests amongst other things are very nice as well). Perhaps a better change would be to keep the first 4 like before, and only have the 5th as a jump (Eg. A rank 500 player would see 499, 498, 497, 496, 486). I think this would be a better fix than the current arena fix as it keeps what works, along with the addition of what you guys are trying to do with arena.
Other than this thanks for working on the game.
p.s. While new servers help line your pockets, it's killing activity on the newer servers. Wisdom of Odyssus, S18, is now down to maybe 50 active players..
edit: fix typos
I also agree with the arena patch being a horrible mistake.
No way I will change realms now, and it was a great addition to the game. Too bad.
Maybe if the shuffle will be implemented in the game, this won't be as disappointing a move as it is at the moment.
I have to say I dont like alot about the Patches that they have put in but I do however like the Baal and Cerb patches so what if u can instant for 2 gems to get there first just make sure u do it faster then the next guy everyone is starting back at the respawn point at the same time to stop the Final blow from goin to the ppl that are in the top ranks which is it almost always the case so be it I like the Map change it does indeed show the progress which is nice as far as the arena i have not seen that as of yet but its not like it is something i cant live with I just want the Lvl 5 Guild buffs and would really enjoy knowing what they are for certain even though i have a feeling it is extra sails imo