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Update: I am proud to announce that on my 15th attempt in a row at 45% on adamanti stars I had success, although I did pay the 10 gems for one of the medals this time, maybe that gives you a boost in percentage as with the previous 14 fails I did not purchase any via the 10 gem amount.
Definitely unusual, but not impossible.With 50+ servers and a fairly large number of players all trying to gain a bunch of stars, someone will hit a run of bad luck. I think my longest run is about five failures trying to go from 4 to 5 stars.
yeah i'm trying to go from 4 to 5 right now, had this hero at 5 and went for 6, biggest mistake of my life, now i'm at 4 and have failed 12 times in a row going to 5. It would be nice if they were honest about the percentages, but what can ya do I guess.
Same exact situation here, except I've only been up to 6 fails so far. Any chance you are starring Saffron?Quote:
Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena
25 stars to reach level 2 lol.
also i'm trying to build another sword and i've gotten the staff the last 15 attemps, the odds of that are .... really really really low. makes no sense.
i spent over 5,000 gems trying to get to 9 stars on my main and ended back at 8. 10% my ass.
Lol! My longest fail streak so far has been 8 fails for 4 to 5 stars. But percentages are honest IMHO. The percentage is not based on number of tries, but percentage for each try. So if you have a 45% success rate, it applies to each try. 55% chance of fail and 45% chance of success. Each and every time. Not a cumulative percentage rate over all attempts for that star. I chuckle each time I see much lower level and power players with 7 or 8 stars on every hero and look at my 3, 4 and 5 star heroes at lvl 59. It's always just a roll of the dice.
Hope you luck improves soon. Mine too. :D
i'm sure they will say it's a percentage of a percentage like with evony you can and i have failed at 100% success rate. 12 seems a lil excessive on 1 hero, it will be a while before I can give it a 13th shot. I'm rank 1 in arena which for me I never get gems as stakes and if anyone around me does they are guild members. Dumping that many medals to get nowhere is pretty painful but i'm failing multiple cards at 90% success rate also so i guess they are just having their way with my account. Upset about my posts or notes to customer support : )
Dude, paranoid much? O___o
my last 15/16 sanctify cards have either failed or been an attribute the hero can't use. My last 12 star attempts have failed on the same hero at 45%. I'm starting to notice a trend here.
Just cleared heaven's palace which took about 4 hours to beat and changing formation over and over to get 100 scores only to be rewarded with a shayd card which gave me physical attack, I give up.
I don't think the devs at Tynon go "just for laughs lets screw this guy over".
If you win more cards, you're more likely to fail since probability means the more you have, the more you will have a chance at failure. As for the stars, I really don't think you're alone there. As soon as I fail on a star upgrade, I walk away from it. Hitting it like a demon just increases the fails.
The failing at upgrading stars I can take. What drives me crazy is losing stars. They need to change that.
These are the people who made Evony Age 2. They probably won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by nwidjaja44_78744
Yes. ^^^ That.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
I'm not doing them all at once, it's progressive. I've had nothing but fails an incorrect saint attributes over the past 2 weeks, same with stars. It's like my percentages on everything were sliced to nothing and if i do get a successful saint it's an attribute they can't use with the exception being 1 hp saint of the 16 cards, 8 have been attributes the hero can't use, 7 failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
Bud, it's made like that so you will give them more $$$$$$$$$ to buy stars. ^^ Please understand Lol.
Which I don't mind, but if my success rate is 5% then tell me it's 5%. Don't tell me it's 90% or 45% when it's not anywhere near that. The saint attributes I already knew was coming since beta, I know my luck and I knew it would be a huge problem as I would be the one getting saint after saint with the magic attacks on physical characters and skill and phys attacks on mages. I was hoping it would be changed, but nope. I realize that everyone gets screwed over but 15/16 fail or wrong attributes along with 12 fails in a row on stars at 45% is just beyond unrealistic. Here is a percentage that is accurate... the percents listed for success rate are 100% false.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newb
Yes ur right, with 12 fails at 50%, there is a mathematical probability of only .024% to fail 12 times in a row. However, the developers do not know how to use math correctly in their calculations, and all of those percentages are fake. This goes for power boosting in any of the events. your so called "80%" boost is really like 200-250%. I could not figure out the formula they use for that boost. When I boost 20%, it goes up about 30%, when I boost 40%, it goes up about 85%, when I use 60% it goes up about 170% and when I use 80% it goes up about 250%. It makes NO sense what's so ever. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena
With that said, it's just they way they made this game, with no math knowledge and/or to trick players into buying more.
Yeah, maybe one day they will list true percentages and people would still spend money, honestly wouldn't change anything. I guess their target market is angry gamblers only instead of people that just enjoy the game and like a little bit of chance. They are just going with the run people into the ground until they are so frustrated they spend big amounts. Maybe it pays off I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newb
Could it be compounding- basing the boost on the already boosted amount, or have you calculated that already and it does not stand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Newb
:D I do complex algorithms to calculate formulas and generate fractals. Formulas that I sell to games devs at times for things like the sparkly water and waves in the harbor. Because the game devs I sell to can't do that much higher math. But I FAIL at basic algebra. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by kai_94811
But it does sat "stackable to", so I must assume that each boost is based on power at boost time, and does not go up in a straight line off of your original power. Never bothered to write the numbers down as I boost away. And though people may be right that the percentages are off on the whole game, I still stand by my opinion that the percentages shown for star up probabilities are not based on cumulative tries, but apply to each and every try individually. Maybe changing when you try to up stars? I have been getting consistent ups now on stars right after reset, and by upping each hero in a row so stars are about the same for each one, 'cept my mage and my main, who are 2 stars higher than the rest.
Dude, I feel bad for ya that you have had such crappy luck, but it's a game of chance to some degree, and sometimes you hit a good streak, sometimes you hit a bad one. If it's such a big deal to you and is making your real life (do you have one?) so miserable, quit playing and go back to Farmville.
*smh*
Don't feel bad. I had 52 stars saved up for when i got adam and i only ended up with 2 stars on him. The %'s in this game are total BS. I also have 3 failed saints on shayd with 90% success rate... that is more then just bad luck, the % is skewed.
I just failed for the 13th time in a row on adam at 45% success rate, this is an absolute joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got my 14th fail in a row at 45% success rate. I just don't understand.
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Originally Posted by Kyleena
No this is for stars. Going from 4 to 5 stars, failed 14 times in a row same hero. The last 16 out of 17 sanctify cards have been on a variety of heroes. Both figures just seem excessively high to me. I think 8 of them were attributes heroes couldn't use and 8 failed. I had sanctify success and regular attributes for a while, all of the fails, stars and cards alike have been over the past 2 weeks. Basically it just seems like they altered percentages on my account. Everything is pre-determined. I don't mind failing a few times at 45% but 14 in a row just seems a bit out of the ordinary to me. 17 cards and only thing i got was 1 hp bonus and 8 saint attributes that I can't use and can only reset a few heroes so i'm just beyond frustrated at this point. The cards are a pain but it is what it is at least some of them worked even if it was something that ruins the character. The medals are 14 fails in a row which I don't think anyone can explain to me the logic of this.
I buy a medal every time i see one at the fair and every lab chance to buy a star I do. Basically once or twice a day over 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyleena
Basically just ready to give up on the game at this point, spend all day grinding and watching arena hoping for gems. Finally get enough for 3 medals then fail. 4 or 5 times to fail sure I could see that, but 14 times and a row and counting.... It's just mentally taxing.
I was going to get stars with gems, and now that I see this I will not be stupid and waist my gems on those kinds of odds. best to be used to upgrade existing runes and try to get nnew ones.
Thanks, glad I saw this.
I may be paranoid in a good way, but my luck seems to change in game based on how positive I am here in the forums... coincidence? ;)
My main is safely at 5 stars after many fails. To get from 5 to 6 stars I have a 32% chance of success. Notice they never define the rest of it. As in 32% of what? exactly. 32% of all tries for stars at that moment? Is it a time thing? 32% of all attempts for 5 to 6 stars on that server? Is it a server thing? 32% of all tries for this account? Is it an account thing? How about 32% of tries for this particular hero? Is it a hero thing? And if that's the case.... how many tries is 100%? Don't you need to know that the 100% number is before you know what the 32% number is? I'm not a math major so I'm probably wrong in my logic. It just seems to me that it's the same thing as the other poster mentioned. Like Evony, the success rate is a percentage of an unknown percentage. Therefore it doesn't really mean anything.
My main dropped from 7 to 4 stars(reallllly stupid of me) and atm im on my 11th fail streak. I have given up on my main and started on my heroes, which is also being a pain in the buttocks since the 45% feels more like 4,5%.
But ill just keep plugging away, eventually i'll hit a lucky streak....before the sun burns out
Gotta love stars.........had 3 , try to upgrade to 4, fail, now have 2 stars, OMG .....the next day....try to upgrade to 3 stars.......now have 1..........WTF
Failed getting to 4 stars on rhize yet again. Been trying for 3 weeks. Oh well that's just how things go I suppose.