New boss drops are fail...

Didn't need one, but got a chest guard. :p

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Originally Posted by DaBooMan

i believe the simple fact of the matter is, tynon aint done the level 80 maps, so if they drop justice plans just leaves people waiting again.
there is no balancing, i can farm light bringers in heroic and materials for it, i dont need no more light bringers swords, i am looking for relics, but its impossible to get.
i would rather have justice plans that than light bringers swords over and over

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Honestly couldnt agree more.

Everything seems to be to slow down progress lately. Whether you believe it or not, everything seems nerfed. Rune temple, tavern, WB, etc. I think the players are progressing way too fast for the developers to keep up. Make more servers to get more advanced players to move to new servers to start over and spend less time on their more advanced accounts. Make it easier and more beneficial to have alt accts, so you spend time building them and less time progressing on your main. Everything lately seems focused on slowing us down in game so the developers can catch up.

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Didn't need one, but got a chest guard. :p

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Yes Morgan

Im not saying it only gives out swords/staves. But that is the overwhelming thing given out. Which as Boo pointed out, slows down progress.

Ive gotten a helm chest guard and cloak
I needed the cloak. And a chest guard and helm are more likely usable then a sword/staff. But as I have suggested several times. The rewards need scaled based upon the drop likely hood of the most advanced items available to you in HR.

If you're getting the other equipment too, then why are you saying the patch is bad. I can appreciate it sucks to keep getting staves and swords but the WBs have always been a bit hit and miss with what they drop.

Before the patch, I kept getting Ironheart chestguards (notice what I keep getting lol). After 5, why would I need anymore?

The only real change is your plan drop relates to how far you've progressed in the Heroic Realms rather than your level.

I have progressed to a heroic boss that is unbeatable by a realm let alone one player so until I can get past this ill continue to get swords and staffs?

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

If you're getting the other equipment too, then why are you saying the patch is bad. I can appreciate it sucks to keep getting staves and swords but the WBs have always been a bit hit and miss with what they drop.

Before the patch, I kept getting Ironheart chestguards (notice what I keep getting lol). After 5, why would I need anymore?

The only real change is your plan drop relates to how far you've progressed in the Heroic Realms rather than your level.

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Just keep wearing those rose colored sunglasses

that is not the only change

Since you apparently dont bother to read all my posts.

As I have stated. Before 1st place got a higher level, less likely to drop item then 2nd and 3rd.
Now that is no longer true. In fact its been the opposite in my realm and server.

How about giving 1st place a level 5 gem?

2nd and 3rd get level 4 gems

4th to 7th get level 3 gems

8th to 10th get level 2 gems

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Originally Posted by mattp169

As I have stated. Before 1st place got a higher level, less likely to drop item then 2nd and 3rd.
Now that is no longer true. In fact its been the opposite in my realm and server.

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There's a lot of misinformation being floated around as fact.

Places 1-3 in Baal and Cerb have always been on the same loot table for Plans. #1 was not likely to get a better plan than #3, nor vice versa. The advantage to getting 1st was that you received a Level 4 chip. This is still the case.

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Originally Posted by Dawnseeker

There's a lot of misinformation being floated around as fact.

Places 1-3 in Baal and Cerb have always been on the same loot table for Plans. #1 was not likely to get a better plan than #3, nor vice versa. The advantage to getting 1st was that you received a Level 4 chip. This is still the case.

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Well if that has always been the case, then it must have been a whole string of coincidences that made what I saw on a regular basis be that first place always got a plan that was less likely to drop then 2nd and 3rd place got,And 2nd got a plan less likely to drop then 3rd place.

You wont tell us things dawn because its part of the fun to figure it out on our own. SO when we figure something out based on observations, you just tell us we are wrong anyway. You never tell us when we are right.

So if the advantage of getting 1st over 2nd and 3rd is to get a level 4 chip, whats the advantage for getting 2nd versus 3rd, if the plan drop has always been on the same level?

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.

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Irrational line of argument. Since the same people winning the same old useless sword drops just keep banging away and bogarting the top 3 positions, selling the surplus sword plans for a few coins (even less than the cost of the apprentice gear!) and just collect reputation and merge-gems and NEVER EVER let their own people advance around them who might actually need a sword plan or two.

THIS IS THE END Of this GAME. People are seeing now that its a dead ended game design that does not balance, does not reward and looks more like a failed liberal social justice ideology than it looks like cogent and rational game design with a well thought out advancement strategy. MOST are quitting it out of boredom now. EPIC FAIL.