Baal staffs are too common

For the last 6 days at least, I have received a staff twice a day for killing Baal. This is way beyond any possibility of being a random choice, so Tynon have decided this is their policy. Why? The probability of someone coming in the top 3 and not having sword and staff plans is very limited. the plans are sold and the money cant even buy a ruin. Don't waste your time or ours by giving rewards that are less use than a fart in a thunderstorm and dont go around believing your customers are idiots. Either give rewards that may be of use, or donr give them at all, they only anger people. there are members of our guild that say they cant be bothered to boost anymore as the rewards are just not worth the cost.

Please stop treating us as if we are all idiots - or are we for playing your game, I am not sure

From my top 3 finishes in banish events i got exactly what i needed, no sword/staff, so i am not sure your statement is accurate. Sorry.

I was one of the first people to complain very loudly about the plan drops after the last change. And I have come to the conclusion it is fairly random. I have Baron Fuego defeated in HR. Which means for Banish I can receive any Guardian Plan, And I have received a pretty fairly random supply of everything fro swords to relics. Some times i get 4 swords in a row. Other times i get 6 different things in a row. Pretty much like HR bosses

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Originally Posted by Greenly

From my top 3 finishes in banish events i got exactly what i needed, no sword/staff, so i am not sure your statement is accurate. Sorry.

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So have I. Admittedly I got two chestguards but the rest were what I needed.

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Originally Posted by nolansco_5578848

For the last 6 days at least, I have received a staff twice a day for killing Baal. This is way beyond any possibility of being a random choice, so Tynon have decided this is their policy. Why? The probability of someone coming in the top 3 and not having sword and staff plans is very limited. the plans are sold and the money cant even buy a ruin. Don't waste your time or ours by giving rewards that are less use than a fart in a thunderstorm and dont go around believing your customers are idiots. Either give rewards that may be of use, or donr give them at all, they only anger people. there are members of our guild that say they cant be bothered to boost anymore as the rewards are just not worth the cost.

Please stop treating us as if we are all idiots - or are we for playing your game, I am not sure

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It is a fairly irrational reward system where its a reward that often times is almost insulting. The one consistent good thing is if you win #1 you still get a nice level 4 Chip for embedding. The bad news is they will charge you to remove it (and not tell you till you discover this fact) if you later want to merge 5 to get a level 5 chip embed. :mad:

The only other solace is you get to keep your reputation, credits and coin won - even though depending on number of people competing you might not break even on the cost of boosts...

When you get right down to it - it can be as much a test of being a sucker for abuse as it is a test of fighting power and formation. Not the way a real gamer would design it...

Well, i must admit, since i posted this after morning baal, i got a sword this afternoon. 2nd and third got swords as well i understand. It is very hard to believe it is random.

what boss are you on in heroics?

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Originally Posted by Greenly

From my top 3 finishes in banish events i got exactly what i needed, no sword/staff, so i am not sure your statement is accurate. Sorry.

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The only statement i made, was that in six days i had received nothing but staffs. that statement was 100% accurate. you can call me a liar if you wish, that is your choice. during that time i finished, first, 2nd and third depending on the level of boost, but always received a staff - until this afternoon when i got a sword, having finished first. I just find it very hard to believe it is coincidence and i am just having a week of bad luck. Even allowing for heavy weighting of the lower levels, it seems beyond the mathematical chance of coincidence to me, unless Tynon have redefined normal distributions since i went to school

It depends on what boss you have beaten If the toughest boss you have beaten only drops swords and staves then that is all you get. So if The 2nd envoy,plague lord or dark alchemist are the toughest ones you have beaten, then you will only get swords and staves

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Originally Posted by nolansco_5578848

The only statement i made, was that in six days i had received nothing but staffs. that statement was 100% accurate. you can call me a liar if you wish, that is your choice. during that time i finished, first, 2nd and third depending on the level of boost, but always received a staff - until this afternoon when i got a sword, having finished first. I just find it very hard to believe it is coincidence and i am just having a week of bad luck. Even allowing for heavy weighting of the lower levels, it seems beyond the mathematical chance of coincidence to me, unless Tynon have redefined normal distributions since i went to school

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Actually, if you flip a coin six times, then do that 63 more times, one set of six flips is likely to be a straight set of the same side of the coin.

So there's a 1/64 (or 0.5^6) chance that your exact outcome will happen. Not so rare after all, is it?

LOL! Before the patch, my big guildies dropped own so I could get in top 3 for WB and get a plan. And I got an IH chest plan that I will not be able to use for a while. :o Since the patch however, they let me get top 3 again and I got a champs chest plan. Something I needed and was able to craft right away.

So perhaps it is rigged, and the devs are trying to send a message to the people who take top 3 day after day. That they need to let their lower guildies take top 3 spots for plans for a few. And then maybe they will drop what you top spots need again. Just a thought, and I am likely wrong. But then again, maybe not. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Klepto

Actually, if you flip a coin six times, then do that 63 more times, one set of six flips is likely to be a straight set of the same side of the coin.

So there's a 1/64 (or 0.5^6) chance that your exact outcome will happen. Not so rare after all, is it?

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well we are getting into mathematics here, and it is over 50 years since I was at school, but as I remember a normalised curve for a50% probability, you would need more flips of the coin to guarantee 6 consecutive heads (or tails). It is true that many confuse probability with possibility, but we are talking about 6 consecutive similar results out of a possibility of 6. 6! is about 720 so we are talking about a probability of 1 in 5000. not good odds. Anyway, no point labouring the argument. just let me say that all my staffs are now upgraded lol

Over the last 14 days I ran in the banish events : 11 Guardian Staff Plans, 3 Guardian Sword Plans, 1 Guardian Chestguard plan... that's pretty badly balanced. I'm sitting out until I level a couple more times & stop taking things someone else might use, but it really sucks. Would appreciate some relief there.

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Originally Posted by bill_adams_59_3205099

Over the last 14 days I ran in the banish events : 11 Guardian Staff Plans, 3 Guardian Sword Plans, 1 Guardian Chestguard plan... that's pretty badly balanced. I'm sitting out until I level a couple more times & stop taking things someone else might use, but it really sucks. Would appreciate some relief there.

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Its based on how far you've made it in heroic realm. If you haven't beaten the boss that can drop helms you will not get helms from WB. If you have then you just have bad luck.