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SO is it my imagination, or does anyone else feel that in the past week, frag drops in rune temple have been nerfed by about 50%?
I am spending more coins then ever in the temple daily and am getting half of the frags per day on average then about a week ago. At first I thought it was just a bad day or two. But now I am seriously believing they nerfed the drop rate of frags.
Anyone else got this feeling
Same here but it might just be you and I because some others I've spoken to seem to be doing just fine ;)
Today blown through 18kk so far throughout the day with only 3 frags.
Good you got 3 frags for 18 mil coins, i got 0 for 14.5 mil coins.
Yes Matt i have noticed that the drop rate of fragments as well as golden runes have changed since the last patch. Probably this is part of the progress slowing down process.
I've spent around 300m gold and on 88 frags. Normally I get the 100 for 250. But I have got alot more yellows even tho I don't need them. I have enuff yellow for my 90 slot and 3 more heroes ready saved.
I've noticed a steep decline in overall returns on coins when it comes to runes. Probably 50-70% worse than before. Maybe it's just my luck but it's been pretty bad lately. I'm almost having more luck with the Heaven Tavern at this point.
Yesterday (Sunday) I had a very good run with frags. Got 22 using 25 mil coins. I was getting a frag about every 2nd time the Old Man showed up. I also got 4 gold runes during this time. This was about 3 pm on server 7.
hmm.
very interesting info so far.
I too think the yellow runes are dropping more. I got 3 rightousness and a bane in one day but only 2 frags and spent 30m coins. Ive never gotten 4 yellows in a day and ive been on since beta, yet alone 3 of the same one.
And Andy if your getting 22 frgas using 25m gold....you and I need to have a talk, I want your secret. In fact I think alot of us do.
Boo your 100 frags for 250 m coins is alittle better then my average. Which is closer to 350m for 100 frags. But that is not too far off.
im getting like 1 frag per 40m spent lol,but i know people getting 20+ frags a day right now only spending 15-20m coins.
im doing pretty good in frags. had a dry spell for about a week, but now im back to between 6-10 frags for 10-15m coins. nothing i will complain about.
I got 8 frags and spent 13m coins on my main account.
EDIT:
Working on runes on another account,(alternate).
Has 13m
Spent 10m,so far
Only 1 frag
On my main account, I don't usually have much luck when it comes to runes, while on my alternate account I got 20 rune frags before my main even got 10, but today was very unlucky.
I don't think Tynon did anything to change the frag drop rate, just based on luck.
You luck changes daily. when you log in you recieve a random roll of the dice and thats your luck factor for the day. If you spend money or not it doesnt change. Thats why you have good days and bad days and someone can spend nothing and get allot or nothing. Its just a little to random for me.
No secret, just luck. It happened the one time. I there was another time where fragments were dropping like crazy and that was on 8/30 (the day of the weekly events patch). All of the members of my Guild experienced this on that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
It certainly feels like the fragments were nerfed in the last patch. They seem to be almost as rare as yellow runes now. Hoping it is just my bad luck.
Yesterday(Monday), I got 7 gold runes and 14 frags. Was my luckiest day yet in Tynon for drops, spent about 25mil coin. Ups and Downs of Tynon I suppose, am sure to hit a dry spell for my recent good luck.
i had 47 - on my bfs account on 32, that completely disapeared a wek ago tynon has not respoded AND I WANT THEM BACK
if theyve been spent on runes, no worries.. They need to give me the invisible runes that i managed to spend 47 frags onQuote:
Originally Posted by chlo88
*EDIT* had 47.. logged in 4 hours later to find 0... been over a week and 2 billing support inquiries.. useless
Seems the less you go in with the better you do..when i get between 5 and 10 mill coins I go to rune temple and do better then if I go in with 25 mill..go figure. Also around the 2 mill to 1 mill mark of coins left you seem to get frags more often. Just my observations...may mean nothing at all...
Today spent 6 million gold on runes so far. Got 2 yellow runes and one fragment. Only one of the yellow runes was particularly useful. Already have enough duplicates of the other one.
Lol! Revan, I know the feeling. I keep getting runes I already have on all heroes who can use them. And have been waiting for 1 little Righteousness to drop for weeks, while I see a ton of others getting them in the world banners. LOL! And frags, tavern and heroics have been lousy for me for days as well. Not complaining. I'll get a better streak of luck at some time. For now, I'll just keep plugging away and dreaming of Righteousness. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Revan
I bought (with frags) my Righteousness and all but one Vitality I have. Still have yet to just see a Righteousness drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressBatty
It's okay though. Now I can focus on 100 frag runes again.
One day I saw one player get 3 Vitality Runes in a 15 minute span of time and several other players were getting yellow runes as well. Of course I try and get maybe 2 purples. Bout the only time that I find the banners annoying, its like taunting you into trying the rune temple.Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressBatty
yesterday and today about 1/2 the time all I get is a green or blue Rune from the old man.
The drop rates of all runes and fragments are the same as the day Tynon launched.
Thanks Dawn for taking a moment to respond to this thread. Not sure I agree, because the results I have been getting for the past 2 weeks is drastically different then the results I got the first couple weeks. But since Dawn actually responded then I will right the rune temple off to just strange luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
Dawn, any chance you will tell us if there is anything we can do to effect drop rates for runes and frags?
Getting lots of dupe yellow runes but fragments are hard to come by now. Nothing more insulting than getting the veteran rune guy up in the rune temple to only get a blue rune. Just silly and banal game sequencing. Minimum rune should be purple if no frag is awarded...
Its just random. Randomness has streaks of good and bad luck. In the long run, it will even out.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
Once again thanks for the direct answer dawn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
One or 2 more questions
1. Is the code for the randomness of say the rune temple completely separate or is it linked to other factors in the game - such as how lucky you are in tavern- as to prevent someone from being lucky in both at the same time
2. Has the hardware that runs the actual code been changed in the past week. Different hardware could generate different random numbers hence why it seems like we have totally different drop rates lately.
Almost no software systems use hardware based random number generation except the most sophisticated Cryptological hashing and reverse hashing specialty computing platforms used by such agencies as NSA etc. Most pseudo random number generators are simple hashing functions using software based fast mathematical congruent linear shift algorithms. Even if they went from 32 bit servers to 64 bit servers or higher the effect would be just more stochastic randomness (less statistical patterns) that we would never see in the few thousand rolls of the digital dice we see daily. It would take hundreds of millions of rolls to see patterns in the data.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
Anecdotal accounts suggest that we can assume that they have nerfed things again at least a few percentage points - probably to cover the expense of the bennies we see in the new Weekly Events good-deal bone they threw to us recently (i.e. discounts on chests, faster cool down on talents/blacksmith etc.). Its' probably a net-zero sum game if you play 24 hrs to avail self to every new promotional they have initiated.
I'd be happy just to KEEP the runes I build up and not have them RANDOMLY go missing...
I had a run today where I spend 65Kk and got 30 Frags. I have a feeling it is more to do with the time and luck and nothing to do with it being nerfed.
Would be great to have an exchange posibility where you can switch runes for frags, since at some point you only need frags and no longer need purples and yellows.
My drops in the runes temple are really pants,....i've spent 25 mil got 1 frag,.. no yellows at all this week
No random number generator is truly random. Over time, you will see a slight effect from auto-correlation even from those based on time codes. Instead, you see the results of a pseudo-random number generator. That does NOT mean there is a bias. However, runs of good and bad luck will be slightly longer than a true random number creates.
In other words, if you are on a cold streak then take a break. If you are on a hot streak, ride it.
How many of you are high level vip?
Don't actually answer that. What I am saying is that it could be a better rate for paid vs non paid.
Yes, they could and WOULD code something like that.
Gorgon
I have VIP1 on three different servers. Did not have VIP in Beta. As stated before, I see runs of good and bad luck in the Rune temple. Same goes for Tavern.
Idk really, waiting to see the anwer as well