Tynon focusing only on the paid player

Well it looks like I will not be playing much longer. I really liked the game, but it seems they really do not want to help the player that cant pay out a lot if nothing.

They keep making changes so that people get fewer and fewer gems. I was really liking the game a lot. But now no matter how much we do we will never make the Assistants 100 activities and get 10 gems unless we 'win' on the Pirates etc. As of today, 6/6/13 no matter how many activities you did, you can no longer get the gems. And being that there are always those players that fork out their weekly paycheck on games and don't seem to have rent to pay, players like myself will more then likely quit. Most people can not get 1 million power in 1 week.

But then again, All your in for is the $$$ anyway.

Well it was fun, but I guess Ill go back and find a game I can more afford.

i couldn't agree more, coiners and americans are being favored more and more everyday.

There's currently 115 activity points. The Labyrinth is worth 10, Pirates 10 and Guild Warfare 15.

And if you loose in the Pirates where your attacked and loose your map piece and your Guild does not fight in the guild wars........................your sh*t out of luck.

Then tag along with a stronger person in Pirates, or change Guilds :P

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Originally Posted by Andrasta

Well it looks like I will not be playing much longer. I really liked the game, but it seems they really do not want to help the player that cant pay out a lot if nothing.

They keep making changes so that people get fewer and fewer gems. I was really liking the game a lot. But now no matter how much we do we will never make the Assistants 100 activities and get 10 gems unless we 'win' on the Pirates etc. As of today, 6/6/13 no matter how many activities you did, you can no longer get the gems. And being that there are always those players that fork out their weekly paycheck on games and don't seem to have rent to pay, players like myself will more then likely quit. Most people can not get 1 million power in 1 week.

But then again, All your in for is the $$$ anyway.

Well it was fun, but I guess Ill go back and find a game I can more afford.

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I can appreciate that you think Tynon is focusing on players who pay money however, I do not think that is true. I have my main character that I DO coin/buy gems on but I did it mostly to get through content without really thinking about what and why I was doing it. I regretted it.

I started a second character that I DO NOT coin/buy gems on and to tell you the truth although there are good benefits to throwing some cash at the game, not spending any money on my second character has not lessened my game play experience.

In fact I think that if anything the gameplay is the same, the only thing that paying to play does is afford you the ability to gain power faster. Not paying to play leveling talents and blacksmith upgrades does take longer but you still get to the same level as the people who pay to speed up the cool downs eventually.

If anything I think the major issue is that the people who are paying and playing already know the majority of the content the people who are not paying are just getting to.

I think if there was a game guide somewhere out there or even a Wiki (shameless plug) with information that would tell you what does what when where and to what it would be easier for non paying players to play, it helps to seek someone out as a mentor in game. I have seen tons of people who are low level with ridiculous high power because they hunted down the information that would benefit them.


But yeah in my opinion I don't think Tynon favors people who pay.

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Originally Posted by Greenley

americans are being favored more and more everyday.

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I don't think that is true, the cool events take place when most of us are at work or ridiculously late at night :o

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Originally Posted by Tynon

Then tag along with a stronger person in Pirates, or change Guilds :P

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I have been doing this myself :D

And what about those few that do not belong to a guild?

If anyone has been playing the beta from when it was first offered, you can see that each day they have cut back more and more on what they offer free. What will they be taking away tomorrow?
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I would like to get gems and finish the 100 activities each day. I need to drop from my guild where I have made friends and join a stronger one. Then make sure someone has the other side of the map that is strong enough that a million power player will not steal it, that is on line the same time I am. etc etc etc

Well I guess I will no longer be trying to for 100 activities a day. At least that is what kept me coming back day after day for a more then a few hours.



I know in evony, the wiki sites were made primarily by players not Devs. I think Tynon might be waiting for someone to start one. Good luck on that.

Less alts, more real players

u guys cryed about revenage so that gets taken away. u guys crys about the lag in noble so that got taken away. u guys cryed about pvp so that got taken away most changers made is because u guys cryed for it.

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Originally Posted by Andrasta

Well it looks like I will not be playing much longer. I really liked the game, but it seems they really do not want to help the player that cant pay out a lot if nothing.

They keep making changes so that people get fewer and fewer gems. I was really liking the game a lot. But now no matter how much we do we will never make the Assistants 100 activities and get 10 gems unless we 'win' on the Pirates etc. As of today, 6/6/13 no matter how many activities you did, you can no longer get the gems. And being that there are always those players that fork out their weekly paycheck on games and don't seem to have rent to pay, players like myself will more then likely quit. Most people can not get 1 million power in 1 week.

But then again, All your in for is the $$$ anyway.

Well it was fun, but I guess Ill go back and find a game I can more afford.

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i would agree. i have had a beta experience with the TYNON GAME and i think it is getting worse. go live with less ways to grow free and leaving me with hours of nothing to do i will quit! ty for the experience TYNON GAME

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Originally Posted by Dawnseeker

There's currently 115 activity points. The Labyrinth is worth 10, Pirates 10 and Guild Warfare 15.

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If your ship gets sunk each time, that is 0. If you are ASLEEP during Guild Warfare seen as it is at 4am your time, you get 0. So, how can you then in anyway complete the last quest?

"$5 dollars does not a paying player make..."

VIP1 players don't have any better advantage than non-paying players to complete the assistant quest. I ante'd in with $5 because I really liked what I saw after the first few days (and one really horrible crash). I also considered getting the explorer pack to complement gameplay, but I got the Morgana card on the second day, so I didn't. I believe the changes in PVP were necessary. Pirate combat allows you to revenge players of any level who attack you while on ship. Guild warfare has yet to be seen at its best, though I'd expect anyone who coined to excel in that over someone who did not. Though luck (and persistence on the shuffle and rune generator) has a lot to do with everything in this game.

I have held back from serious coining because I wanted to see how things develop. Now that I see this and no word at all on a real release date I believe I did the right thing in holding back and waiting before spending more on this game. For anyone to coin and settle into a game, the game developers have to convince us that it is worth doing. Initially I was convinced, but now with the change to the Noble gem Lady, the increased difficulty in getting the 10 gems from the quest, and these changes basically harming anyone who wanted to "go rogue" and be guild-free (at times or most of the time), traveling around the realms in search of loot and power - the only thing I am convinced of is to continue holding back and keeping my credit card in my wallet for now.

I have a suggestion - give 1 gem for getting to the Knights chest level of points and then another 2 gems for completing up to the Count's level. Then give the other 7 for the King's Bounty. This way, even a "rogue" character can squeak by and upgrade gear and players who don't have as much time to devote to the game on a daily basis (some of us do work and eventually need to sleep!) can get something and not feel like they are missing out on something the others are getting. And the maximum is still 10 gems.

Something is better than nothing - and if it motivates you to get the maximum reward possible by trying harder on the days that you can, all the better. If your life / work / school keeps you from being more active, you still get something for trying. That makes a game more enjoyable and less frustrating.


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Tynon was cool at first but now its just monotonous. I have coined and do coin so I can't say either way if they are catering to one group or another. I do think the mechanics of the pirate ship section should be restructured. I think you should only be able to take maps off those that are of equal power to yourself. This gives the smaller level or exp players a chance to gain rewards through the pirate ships. It should also be a little more reasonable to pick up the armor pieces needed to upgrade. All in All i'll continue to spend my hard earned money on Evony. Good luck to you Tynonians :)

I think they need more ways to get gems and not just 10 crummy gems that you need to be on the whole day in order get. I think more people would play the game when it goes live if you can have a really good game going without spending money, personally the better the game i have going the more likely i am to drop $100 or more on it, i don't see the point of wasting 100 if you have a bad start with no free gems to get you going, with a good start and a little bit of money you can be top 25 making people more likely to spend more and more because they are happy with they way things are going, just the way i see things lol.

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Originally Posted by Greenley

i couldn't agree more, coiners and americans are being favored more and more everyday.

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This is absolutely not true! I'm American and I coin, but I'm not doing so great like other people are doing from China, or Australia.

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Originally Posted by Dawnseeker

There's currently 115 activity points. The Labyrinth is worth 10, Pirates 10 and Guild Warfare 15.

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Here it is. Everything adds up to 100 points, even after you don't do those.

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Originally Posted by Boroeast

This is absolutely not true! I'm American and I coin, but I'm not doing so great like other people are doing from China, or Australia.


Here it is. Everything adds up to 100 points, even after you don't do those.

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well, i do everything except the pirates and guild warfare, yet, i haven't gotten the last chest it two days... if it all added up, i should have been able to get my quests all completed when cerberus is done seen as everything else is ticked off, that does not happen.

Saying that coining doesn't give players an advantage is a bit naive, after all that's what you pay for. However, without those coiners those who choose not to spend wouldn't have the benefit of a free game.

It's a two way street I suppose.

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There's currently 115 activity points. The Labyrinth is worth 10, Pirates 10 and Guild Warfare 15.


so if u cant finish pirates becuse a 2 mil power attck u evertime u sail and u guild not stromg enough for guild warfare u saying we not aloud to get the last chest as all u can get is 95 points

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Originally Posted by stuart13472_4966828

Quote Originally Posted by Dawnseeker View Post
There's currently 115 activity points. The Labyrinth is worth 10, Pirates 10 and Guild Warfare 15.


so if u cant finish pirates becuse a 2 mil power attck u evertime u sail and u guild not stromg enough for guild warfare u saying we not aloud to get the last chest as all u can get is 95 points

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exactly my point! at least make it so that if you TRY to sail you get the points, not just when it's done.

its weird i seem to get to the chest everyday without a problem and i play sparingly. Didn't they do a big expansion on what you can do to get the gems. I do agree the gems have been impossibly hard to come buy i arena hawk to try and get my items you can get some by beating another player your size that has some risked in the arena.

well if u are a started on the game and u want to get on boat i give u a few tips wait and find a strong guild member and join with him on boat he will help u pass it another way is wait till the cerebus dog shows up where must big players are there so sea is clear to pass by or wait for Baal event and try it to there does are 3 ways for small players to cross it there always a way just remeber to get a good player in your guild to help u there and u be ok.

Now as for coiners iam latin american and i havent coin like u think we all do and iam trying to hold my best in the game agaist them big dogs :) u just need a good guild and u be set buddy u need a good leader for the Guild warfare to and u do ok hope that helps u and u dont have to leave game if u need any more help just let me know u can send me a PM here in forums or look me up in game TrueGod and iam more then glad to help u on any question :)

I disagree that the system focuses too much on the paying player. First, throwing money at a game can be counterproductive. You do not learn how to manage scarce resources if you burn through too many gems. Spending money simply lets you correct mistakes more easily. The best players compete without spending money to buy gems.

Second, game service is not cheap. There has to be some way for this company to make money. Free to play and small costs to buy upgrades make a sensible business model. I will not spend coin on a beta test, but usually spend a few dollars on the basic (five dollar) specials.

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Originally Posted by TrueGod

well if u are a started on the game and u want to get on boat i give u a few tips wait and find a strong guild member and join with him on boat he will help u pass it another way is wait till the cerebus dog shows up where must big players are there so sea is clear to pass by or wait for Baal event and try it to there does are 3 ways for small players to cross it there always a way just remeber to get a good player in your guild to help u there and u be ok.

Now as for coiners iam latin american and i havent coin like u think we all do and iam trying to hold my best in the game agaist them big dogs :) u just need a good guild and u be set buddy u need a good leader for the Guild warfare to and u do ok hope that helps u and u dont have to leave game if u need any more help just let me know u can send me a PM here in forums or look me up in game TrueGod and iam more then glad to help u on any question :)

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so highest member of u allience is 1.3 mil power up against 2 mil power should it not be fair that all players have a chance to get everything just just the pay players and the few lucky ones that got big gems finds early (grtz to them nice luck)

I only have Guild Warfare and Pirates left in Assistant and still can not collect the last chest. But, TrueGod does make a valid point. While Cerb/Baal are going, then try your luck with sailing. Once you're done, you can join everyone else with the bosses. Losing out on 10 mins won't make a huge difference.

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Originally Posted by MuffJunky

I only have Guild Warfare and Pirates left in Assistant and still can not collect the last chest. But, TrueGod does make a valid point. While Cerb/Baal are going, then try your luck with sailing. Once you're done, you can join everyone else with the bosses. Losing out on 10 mins won't make a huge difference.

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Pro Tip: You can do both at the same time. :)

Lol Once we get this Warfare thing going, Assistant may fly by. Getting maps are a problem too. Would be lucky enough to find a small power person in Pirates, but does happen.

yeh everyone has the same idea and does it at baal/cerb so i don't get across in 3 trys because high power player i still cant do daily assis and guild warfare is on at 4am
u saying i shouldnt be able to get it they should make it fare for all player to complete not just high power players

and pls dont tell me set an alarm at 4am to do it as to most people that unacceptable as i have to me up at 8am

maybe just have it so u have to sail not complete it

Well I am an American and I have put a few dollars in and got squat for my trouble. So being American and coining gets you nothing.