Guid Warfare planning... again

There is obviously an issue with the planning in guild wars and has been stated a few times in this thread and a few others. The issue is the same, When I plan a war and have 2 or more cities to assign people to the game generates its own plan that over-rides mine. If I know who is inactive but has claimed guild benefits to join the war, regardless if they are there or not the game should NOT auto-assign my inactive players. What is the point of planning a battle if the outcome is 50/50 that my inactive players that have claimed and joined are gonna be put where ever the game decides. My guild lost 2 cities in 1 night to this error.

1) take off the game auto-planner for inactives, if a member has claimed and is available for battle let the host and VH plan accordingly.. that is what the option is there for

2) IF a member has claimed but after the a war is in progress then I can see an auto assign from game but not prior to.. ALL active and inactive player assignments should be under full control of hosts and VH's

This might make or break a few guilds that rely on this error but in the end it will make the wars a lot more stable for the casual and paying players.

Any feedback to this post from others members and Dev's is welcomed.. thank you

I submitted an extensive bug report about this that has yet to be addressed. It's absolutely killing my guild in guild warfare.

If we're not supposed to be allowed to put people where we want them, get rid of the button. Or rename it "shuffle" because that's all it does in the end.

server 53 had issues with battleplanning on guildwars it switched to people that I wanted on 1 city to the other. And viceversa Can you fix it please?

I guess it don't matter cause we can't battle plan our guy's. Tynon can you put a random player button instead so we can be surprised? getting tired of all my people being herded into 1 city when I am defending 3 cities. Please help?

Servers 3 and 45 had problems with guild war mechanics. Players landed in different cities on 45. On both servers 2 and 45, the game had serious glitches. Moves would register a turn late. On 45 players would spawn in random locations, move after death, and then heal.

Not seeing forces move makes it difficult to out-maneuver an oponent.

In the server I play on, we were defending 3 cities and hardly anyone was put into the 3rd city even if our host put exactly 1/3 of our guild to defend there. We lost the city since only 5 people were assigned by Tynon there.

Tynon has difficulty making Guild Wars work, and yet they expect to come up with a "Championship Arena" that spans multiple servers?
Really now.

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Originally Posted by Herby

In the server I play on, we were defending 3 cities and hardly anyone was put into the 3rd city even if our host put exactly 1/3 of our guild to defend there. We lost the city since only 5 people were assigned by Tynon there.

Tynon has difficulty making Guild Wars work, and yet they expect to come up with a "Championship Arena" that spans multiple servers?
Really now.

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They are now serving ice water in hell, becuase I 100% agree with herby

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Originally Posted by mattp169

They are now serving ice water in hell, becuase I 100% agree with herby

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Me too. I hope that ice in hell comes with some high proof spirits.

how do u join guild warfare?

Count me in on the spirits! This issue is most serious in the places where the battle planning is most important.

I am quite frustrated with the chronic issues with Guild Warfare, especially when the server hijacks my battle planning and changes it so that my guild loses a city. Another thing I'm hating lately is how the challenging guild can walk right past us when we are garrisoned in fort D without a fight (where we should have stopped them cold because we have A LOT more power). It's a laugh how the forts are populated with ghosts and nannies (NaN players).

garrison B first move hit A. GW over

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Originally Posted by DaBooMan

garrison B first move hit A. GW over

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I know right? I need to start an account on another server. Our GW is ALWAYS Garrison at B - March to A - We Win. Always has been for each realms top guild. I feel cheated.

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Originally Posted by DaBooMan

garrison B first move hit A. GW over

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Originally Posted by Deucalion

I know right? I need to start an account on another server. Our GW is ALWAYS Garrison at B - March to A - We Win. Always has been for each realms top guild. I feel cheated.

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NOW you see why inter-realm wars is needed on servers 1-10.

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Originally Posted by Herby

NOW you see why inter-realm wars is needed on servers 1-10.

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It probably would if anyone actually cared. To be honest Herby no one does which is why everyone is happy to leave it how it is.

Related Issue to this: Guild wars glitched on Servers 3 and 45. Not moving or fighting properly.

same here...planning glitches have cost us almost every city...for example planning for 2 people to be in a city against a weak guild...and ending up with half the guild there instead and losing the other battles...every battle is a complete dice roll on who ends up where...i've submitted a ticket and all i get is "tynon is aware of this glitch and is working blah blah" canned response...looking at some of the threads many glitches have been around for months...along with the threads such as banner removal that went by the wayside...maybe this game wasn't ready to go live when it did, but a bit frustrating wondering where all the updates are, or what product the money spent here is actually getting..for the amount of money being thrown around in here the sloppiness is inexcusable imho...

yet again the assignment glitch strikes...2 tickets and the same response, yet there seems no movement towards a solution...certainly the "agility surge" method of fixing things shouldn't take months, should it? it's not very agile or surge capable if that's the case...

what are other people doing to get around this?

to put it in perspective, i'm in a guild that has the top 4 players on the server together, along with a majority of everyone in the top 50 server wide...there's absolutely no way anyone should be beating us, and it used to be a "garrison B attack A" pattern for a long time...magically the glitches appeared, and the number of cities has dropped from holding every single city on the server to barely holding 2 or 3...the vices and host monitor the assignments all the way until gw starts, but its become a joke...the first action taken on turn 1 is just to figure out who the heck is in each city...we can't even plan around leaders of attacks or defenses, or plan between actives and afk defenders...

I wouldn't mind if it affected all guilds the same on my server (30) but I seem to be the only host with this problem - put known afkers on to defend and they inevitably wind up attacking - the only ones who are defending are the ones who are on at the start.

The only solution I've found is to not assign anyone on attack. Put everyone on defense.

It might be an issue of afkers following the host's assignment - they go where I go. I need to do more experimenting.

Still - it's clearly not a situation of players going where I assign them.

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Originally Posted by hildebr7_7379592

I wouldn't mind if it affected all guilds the same on my server (30) but I seem to be the only host with this problem - put known afkers on to defend and they inevitably wind up attacking - the only ones who are defending are the ones who are on at the start.

The only solution I've found is to not assign anyone on attack. Put everyone on defense.

It might be an issue of afkers following the host's assignment - they go where I go. I need to do more experimenting.

Still - it's clearly not a situation of players going where I assign them.

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same here, it doesn't seem to affect everyone..drawing patterns it seems to inflict the top guilds more than others, based on the different server's i've played on..for the one i'm on now it's not just the afk defenders, it's everyone..one theory running around is that the "glitch" won't be fixed, because it's an equalizing measure similar to HR boss/cerb stat lifts, and similar to a higher rate of gem stakes/leader card drops in the weakest realms..i.e., if 1 guild dominates a server it's more likely to go dead..a few key losses here and there keeps things alive, and the competition going..

reference that in less than a day the random daylight savings issue with GW occuring during Rag was fixed..pretty much an immediate solution..yet most of these GW threads are months old, and you get no response from customer service other than "we know about it..sorry for the inconvenience.."

Guild wars is so messed up again.. First theres no one at B then when we made our scout but when our scout moved to C suddenly an enemy moved from B and charged to our challenging city and we lost how come our scout did not encounter them at first round in B? We could've won if the GW is not messed up. This has happened almost everynight..

ok morgan can we have an answer to why we cant assign players to what city we want them to defend as when defending 3 cities to find 20 players suddenly in a battle with a small guild, when they WERE ASSIGNED to another city is disheartening to guild members when we lose a city because of it, this happens all the time and if we cant assign players to where we as guild leaders want them, tell me whats the point of having battle planning???

The players have to have joined in order to be able to be assigned. If players do not join before coming to fight they will be randomly assigned the same as if you had not done any assignments.

it has been like that since Beta tynon isn't concerned about fixing it or they don't care. there's been alot of threads on this matter but nothing has been done

I honestly do not think that the not being on time issue is a bug. If you are not on time you do not get to pick where you start. That is the way it should be.

lol im not talking about the ones not on time, im talking ABOUT THE ONES WHO ARE ON TIME, this is crazy and needs to be fixed or just make everything in game random

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Originally Posted by 2Hand

lol im not talking about the ones not on time, im talking ABOUT THE ONES WHO ARE ON TIME, this is crazy and needs to be fixed or just make everything in game random

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Being on time has nothing to do with being assigned. Assignments are done before the fighting starts using battle planning during the Join stage of the icon. Only the players that have joined can be assigned to a city.

There appear to be two threads discussing the same thing. For a more detail answer of how it works (at least in server 7) see http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...ll=1#post23496

Andy think your missing the point We not talking about any that hasn't claim guild rewards. We talking about the ones that has on server 92 i have had 40 members claim guild rewards meaning they are signed up for wafare i as host assigned 28 to defend 1 city 12 to attack hours before warfare started my VH never touch the assignments i would then check warfare 5 mins before it starts to make sure everyone is where they need to be then when warfare starts tynon would change the players to other cities so the 28 that was to defend we would get 5 to rest would be assigned to attack .sometimes when it changed the members around we would lose the city because tynon can't fix the players placement

Look in the other tread. I posted how i think it should work. Hopefully DS will let us know if that is the way it is supposed to work or not.