Exploit? Being able to jump back in the Arena

As we all know, "porting" or moving to another Realm will reset your arena ranking.

This is being exploited by players who teleport into another realm's arena whenever the 1000 gem stakes are announced.
(Often using medium-level alts who have a free teleport still)

Is this the way the devs intended things to be?



The poor, lucky player who gets the 1000 gem stakes often has zero chance of defending it vs the hunter players who port in and comb through the arena from the back.



Suggestion 1: When porting into another Realm, make the player unable to join the Arena for 1 hour (just like the alliance cooldown).
This would make stakes hunters unable to do as they wish. The stakes they hunt for would be gone by the time the 1hr is up.

Suggestion 2: Remove the 1000 gem stakes altogether.

Kyleena some just dont go for the gems they go to to make the 200 and plus kills for the quest in the arena since its alot better then going in the wild and try to hit 300 player there lol and so go on much fun that way but i understand what u mean there a cooldown for moving to another realm 72 hrs they will be stuck there

so u tell me u get tired of your guild or realm and u want to join another realm so u leave and for some luck u random in arena rank 200 like u want it to be and u see a leader card or gems there and u have 1 hr cooldown well i would be mad lol so i relly dont like that idea to many changes are being applyed already lets enjoy what we got already :)


no dont ask them to take the 1k gems NO!!! thats the only way player that dont coin and they start are able to be lucky to get them and build there acct OMG!!!! dont even think about that lol

I feel like they put the 1k gems there and the ability to hop realms there for a reason....There is already a LONG cooldown for changing realms so right there makes it a gamble! And also, you would be throwing away your contributions in your guild and other stuff away....which makes it, in the long run, not even worth it in some cases. I feel like they should keep the 1k Gems for sure, because it makes the game more challenging, fun, and fair to all :D

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Originally Posted by TrueGod

Kyleena some just dont go for the gems they go to to make the 200 and plus kills for the quest in the arena since its alot better then going in the wild and try to hit 300 player there lol and so go on much fun that way but i understand what u mean there a cooldown for moving to another realm 72 hrs they will be stuck there

so u tell me u get tired of your guild or realm and u want to join another realm so u leave and for some luck u random in arena rank 200 like u want it to be and u see a leader card or gems there and u have 1 hr cooldown well i would be mad lol so i relly dont like that idea to many changes are being applyed already lets enjoy what we got already :)


no dont ask them to take the 1k gems NO!!! thats the only way player that dont coin and they start are able to be lucky to get them and build there acct OMG!!!! dont even think about that lol

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Originally Posted by Tynon

I feel like they put the 1k gems there and the ability to hop realms there for a reason....There is already a LONG cooldown for changing realms so right there makes it a gamble! And also, you would be throwing away your contributions in your guild and other stuff away....which makes it, in the long run, not even worth it in some cases. I feel like they should keep the 1k Gems for sure, because it makes the game more challenging, fun, and fair to all :D

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It's not fun being a mid level player, then have your name up in lights because you have the 1k gem stakes.

I see no reason then to have this opposed?

Suggestion 1: When porting into another Realm, make the player unable to join the Arena for 1 hour (just like the alliance cooldown).
This would make stakes hunters unable to do as they wish. The stakes they hunt for would be gone by the time the 1hr is up.

The 1K gem stakes remains, but no that easy to get.

I'm failing to see how this is an exploit. You only get one free teleport, so bouncing around realms become costly, not to mention the penalties involved as been mentioned.

I was invited to join fire realm and I'm glad I did. The guys there and especially iDeadly (winks at Tynon and TG) have been absolute stars and great fun to be a part of.

There are always going to be players who try buck the system. I'm not condoning any of it, just grown to accept it. Anyway on the subject of exploiting isn't that pot calling kettle black, Kyleena?

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

I'm failing to see how this is an exploit. You only get one free teleport, so bouncing around realms become costly, not to mention the penalties involved as been mentioned.

I was invited to join fire realm and I'm glad I did. The guys there and especially iDeadly (winks at Tynon and TG) have been absolute stars and great fun to be a part of.

There are always going to be players who try buck the system. I'm not condoning any of it, just grown to accept it. Anyway on the subject of exploiting isn't that pot calling kettle black, Kyleena?

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The Beta is to find exploits and report them to have them fixed. Is it not, Morgan?

The teleport hunters are all alt accounts using the free teleports they have. Duh.
Alt accounts do not need to go back to their original realm to service the main account holder.

Do you think thats the way the Tynon devs intended the stakes game to be?

Kyleena, then start a campaign to ban alt accounts, rather than introducing ways to stop players having the chance of winning a 1000 gems because I'm sure the devs didn't count on alts either. Anyway there are penalties in place and they still have to transfer the gems to their main account.

You may go by another name here Kyleena, but you are hardly an innocent when it comes to game exploitation. Maybe you should consider that before condemning others.

Hmmm Kyleena first u say the hunter players teleporting and getting the 1k gems from small players right ??

now u say its alts acct doing it ??

My question is why in earth will someone build a acct ( new acct mean small player to ) and go to a realm to get the 1k gems what for if they can use it for there main ??

i thought u was saying main accts going around lol since u said small players cant stand a chance plus when u port u need to use gems on the 2 time so far ive heard so its relly a waste of time and gems to do that

oh and ty morgan :P iam glad iam with u in iDeadly u make us happy :)

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Kyleena, then start a campaign to ban alt accounts, rather than introducing ways to stop players having the chance of winning a 1000 gems because I'm sure the devs didn't count on alts either. Anyway there are penalties in place and they still have to transfer the gems to their main account.

You may go by another name here Kyleena, but you are hardly an innocent when it comes to game exploitation. Maybe you should consider that before condemning others.

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Wow.. bringing Evony drama over here to Tynon? lol
I shall choose to ignore the *troll* :)


Anyhow, a Beta is where all or most of the bugs, exploits, glitches get straightened out.
So my post here is as such.


My question stands: Is the ladder reset being part of a realm teleport an intended effect? or an accidental one?

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Originally Posted by TrueGod

Hmmm Kyleena first u say the hunter players teleporting and getting the 1k gems from small players right ??

now u say its alts acct doing it ??

My question is why in earth will someone build a acct ( new acct mean small player to ) and go to a realm to get the 1k gems what for if they can use it for there main ??

i thought u was saying main accts going around lol since u said small players cant stand a chance plus when u port u need to use gems on the 2 time so far ive heard so its relly a waste of time and gems to do that

oh and ty morgan :P iam glad iam with u in iDeadly u make us happy :)

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TrueGod, my question stands:

Is the ladder reset back to the bottom of the Arena an intended or a side effect of a Realm teleport?
Because it is being used by people to snatch Leader Cards and 1k gem stakes away from those players who are granted those stakes in the arena.

Call me naive, but how can the cards or gems be passed to another acct? As far as I know, they can't. If items can not be passed back, then there is no problem. If someone chooses to chase stakes, it will cost them a lot of gems for a CHANCE at the stakes...so seems to me this isn't really an issue.

Again, I there is some way that a person can pass items/gems/cards from one acct to another, then I clearly see and issue. Otherwise, different stroke for different folks.

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Originally Posted by Bubba87

Call me naive, but how can the cards or gems be passed to another acct? As far as I know, they can't. If items can not be passed back, then there is no problem. If someone chooses to chase stakes, it will cost them a lot of gems for a CHANCE at the stakes...so seems to me this isn't really an issue.

Again, I there is some way that a person can pass items/gems/cards from one acct to another, then I clearly see and issue. Otherwise, different stroke for different folks.

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NO Bubba there is no way to do that !

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Originally Posted by TrueGod

NO Bubba there is no way to do that !

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So what then is the issue...I fail to see it.

Well it seems this question is a moot one now as they removed the chance of anything but experience from the arenas.

Also on a side note about jumping from realm to realm, the people doing that to grab the stakes are no different than the people who remove all of their equipment nightly so they lose alot in arena and then move back up as they see rewards they like and want to take. The point in having stakes is that you have to be able to defend them for 30 minutes to receive them.

Don't get me wrong I understand exactly where you are coming from, as I have enough strategy to get myself inserted into the top 20 in the Fire Realm arena, but every time I got a decent stake, I had to fend tooth and nail and pray that a select few didn't drop back and steal it from me, but in the end it is a part of the game, and even if they found a way to prevent people from partaking in arena for 30mins-1hr from the time they jump realms, people in that realm would still do the same thing.

Also, you talked about alts and how people use them. When someone who seemingly would benefit from the issue they bring up, it leads me to wonder if possibly a friend of yours had an alt who's stakes got jacked (I only say a friend because I know you would never use an alt, it doesn't seem your style.) as it doesn't seem to make sense that alts would come up as part of this discussion. This is because, as TG pointed out, it hardly makes sense that someone would make an alt and jump it to a realm for a stake when that alt can't directly supply the main with gems and now that they have put level restrictions on PvP and revenge restrictions, it would be difficult for said player with the alt to get any creds or coins they would have bought with those gems to their main anyhow.


P.S. - On a side note, in the future, there is a box beside the reply with quote button for replying with multiple quotes, so there is really no need to double post in rapid fire. I doubt you noticed the button, so I figured I'd help you out with that bit.

There's a 3 days cooldown to change realms. Also you can only change realms once for free, the other you need to pay with gems.

Seems like you know that since you changed.

I don't understand why this is an exploit to you. Exploits, if that is what you find, should be reported as soon as you find them, not after you make a nice profit, and get jealous when others do the same. IMHO

kyleena :)

I agree 50/50 with you lolz, I don't think that realm hopping is an issue. The root of the issue is Tynon needs to be giving more gems out, the 1k arena gems is like a lottery and you only win 10 daily gems. Gems ought to be given out to Baal,Cerb,Guild Warfare and such events. More participation in your realm will keep you in your realm. I do like the cooldown idea though, but would be 30min I think once you claim the stakes for 1k gems you have 30min to defend/collect.

Seems like Kyleena received a lot of flack over this. I appreciate the commentary (minus the snide remarks).
Her question/statement was a good one to bring up and I did wonder if there was some sort of alt transfer method.

I have no alts, but have enjoyed the game to this point. I suppose multiple alts would provide opportunities to win "big".
I'm very busy with my single account, thank you.
KA

i never see 1k gems in top 20 and i never see stake cards in the top 20 so what eles are ppl ment to do.
and its allways about 300ish u see the cards and gems and u are raceing the clock when u transfer to get there 80% of ppl dont make it

i know im new here but tynon and evony are both war games arent they? a simple fix to ur problems Kyleena is this... stop playing. there will be coiners and there will be the little guys. ive been on both sides. the "reset" is an intended side effect of jumping realms. and yes i have jumped realms for 1k gems and leader cards and most of the time the players that had them were inactive anyway. ive said my 2 cents and the truth hurts. personally i think this thread should be closed. Happy Hunting.

I think it was fine making its way to the back of the forums until you had to revive it. not only was this last year; it was warm outside when this was posted lol

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Originally Posted by FlandreScarlet_7896971

I think it was fine making its way to the back of the forums until you had to revive it. not only was this last year; it was warm outside when this was posted lol

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And so it was....time to do my zombie killing thing and close this thread.