Spenders rewarded while non-spenders get the shaft once again

Changes NEED to be made to the price of everything as you grow in the game. First off 100 gems to remove a level 4 chip is absurd. You say it is to slow down spenders which it may do but to the non spenders it brings us to a screeching halt. Not to mention it only gets worse from there... 200 gems to remove a level 5 chip? What a joke! Chips are hard enough to save up and merge into level 5 and higher even if you spend big money on the game, there is no need to charge outrageous amounts to remove them. The other thing is the price to unlock chip slots in gear.... 40 is high enough for iron gear but each level from there it continues to double... the last slot will be 320 gems... for 1 slot... which equates to 9600 gems to unlock all slots on all gear. However I'm sure this is only meant to slow down spenders and make the game fair... My question to you Tynon: If these prices slow down spenders, what the hell do you think it is going to do to the players who can not afford to spend?? All you have done is punish players for hard work and sticking with the game even throughout the countless glitches and astronomical fail rates.

Just wanted so say thanks again, as your greedy lust for more money will ultimately be the death of Tynon as a whole.

This! This right here.

There is a difference between cash players getting perks and bonus's. (Extra card flips, doubling lab rewards, speeding up cds, extra queues, the fair as overpriced as it is, shrine, mysterious chests, purple star levels.)

And cash players buying what should be essential progression. (Chip slots, managing chip slots.)

I feel with the amount of coins we acquire there would be no logical reason not to replace the gem cost with a coin one in regards to chips. I would even agree with a 1 gem to 50k coin trade.
This would make the levels
Hope - 50k
Champ - 500k
Guardian - 1 mil
Ironheart - 2 mil
Lightbringer - 4 mil
Justice - 8 mil
Judgement - 16mil


While still be really expensive it would be more in reach of people under vip5.

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Originally Posted by Kruize

There is a difference between cash players getting perks and bonus's. (Extra card flips, doubling lab rewards, speeding up cds, extra queues, the fair as overpriced as it is, shrine, mysterious chests, purple star levels.)

And cash players buying what should be essential progression. (Chip slots, managing chip slots.)

I feel with the amount of coins we acquire there would be no logical reason not to replace the gem cost with a coin one in regards to chips. I would even agree with a 1 gem to 50k coin trade.
This would make the levels
Hope - 50k
Champ - 500k
Guardian - 1 mil
Ironheart - 2 mil
Lightbringer - 4 mil
Justice - 8 mil
Judgement - 16mil


While still be really expensive it would be more in reach of people under vip5.

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Instead of chip removal having no cost, why not have the ability to socket over an already existing chip, destroying the one already in the socket and replacing it.
(this was already suggested before, and i find it a very cheap and effective solution both for the players and the developers)

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Originally Posted by Herby

Instead of chip removal having no cost, why not have the ability to socket over an already existing chip, destroying the one already in the socket and replacing it.
(this was already suggested before, and i find it a very cheap and effective solution both for the players and the developers)

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Saw you suggest this in another thread. I'd be fine with that.

Also, I like the idea of a coin buyout like what Kruize suggested. I'd be willing to pay more for those slots to open than that to avoid the gems. Start the opening costs at 500k or 1mil.

Maybe make it so coins or gems can be spent on opening the slots kind of like the mount salesman.

You all put too much value in chips thats all i got to say.

Totally agree that some option other than GEMS ONLY be offered for slot opening. All players, spenders or not, need to upgrade gear and to keep the playing field more equal there should be options. GEMS only is very restrictive, even for moderate spenders. Multply that x6 gears x 5 heroes = extremely expensive for non-spenders. They will always be behind which only makes the difference between "coiners" and free players that much more of an issue. It really does not slow down spenders anyway, punishes the rest.

what you are all not getting about chips is this. They give a small advantage compared to everything else. The chips have the gem costs associated with them to make them a spenders thing. and to give the spenders a controllable way to take advantage over non spenders and each other. Now i agree that they screwed up not giving a warning about the gem removal cost for level 4 and up. So simple fix to that is to have a patch that removes all level 4 and higher chips and places them in inventory. SO then you can decide with the knowledge if you want to embed them again with their being an associated removal cost or save them up for merging

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Originally Posted by mattp169

what you are all not getting about chips is this. They give a small advantage compared to everything else. The chips have the gem costs associated with them to make them a spenders thing. and to give the spenders a controllable way to take advantage over non spenders and each other. Now i agree that they screwed up not giving a warning about the gem removal cost for level 4 and up. So simple fix to that is to have a patch that removes all level 4 and higher chips and places them in inventory. SO then you can decide with the knowledge if you want to embed them again with their being an associated removal cost or save them up for merging

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No, please. That would leave the sockets empty, with the corresponding lost of power, and nothing to put in them. Also that is a lot of chips to clutter up the inventory and some people may not have the room for them. One of the other solutions is a better one. The following are in order of preference from my point of view.

1. Remove the cost for removing level 4 chips.
2. Allow in place merge. This means that you can use 4 more lvl 4 chips to merge with the one that is in the socket and it turns it into a lvl 5 chip in the socket.
3. Allow a higher level chip to to replace the lvl 4 chip. The lvl 4 chip will be destroyed.

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Originally Posted by Andy

No, please. That would leave the sockets empty, with the corresponding lost of power, and nothing to put in them. Also that is a lot of chips to clutter up the inventory and some people may not have the room for them. One of the other solutions is a better one. The following are in order of preference from my point of view.

1. Remove the cost for removing level 4 chips.
2. Allow in place merge. This means that you can use 4 more lvl 4 chips to merge with the one that is in the socket and it turns it into a lvl 5 chip in the socket.
3. Allow a higher level chip to to replace the lvl 4 chip. The lvl 4 chip will be destroyed.

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Andy you have said before you have all these level 4 chips embedded. And you embedded them without knowing about the 100 gem removal cost.
All I suggest is to undo that. ONE TIME. That's it. Then you can decide knowing that there is a gem removal cost how you want to deal with chips.
Knowing there is a gem removal cost would you still embed them? Would you not worry about them? Would you have them clutter up your inventory? etc etc
Because I doubt they will change the chip system. Dawn has stated before it is working exactly as intended.
The only issue I have with how it is working, which I believe dawn has even commented on the fact that this was missed in development, that there is no warning about the removal cost before embedding.

So correct that oversight and remove all level 4 + chips from everyone one time and warn them of the unembed cost when embedding.

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You all put too much value in chips thats all i got to say.

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I'll agree with you on that.

Note: my previous post in this thread was just something that popped into my head while reading the thread.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

You all put too much value in chips thats all i got to say.

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Agreed. Players should focus on other aspects of their game instead of stressing over things that are insignificant.
Removing gem cost to remove level 4+ chips would make the game too easy, would remove the last real edge coiners have over non-coiners.

People keep asking for new content, complaining that the game is unfinished and they have nothing else to do, yet they ask that the game be made easier. Doesn't make sense.

There's already a discussion about this! Please don't make more than one thread about the same subject.

Follow the discussion here,
http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...retention-plan

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