1.25b banish and lower stun rates

Why is it necessary when we have the 1.25b banish to reduce the stun rate of cianna and shayd? Short answer there is no reason.

Why am I saying stun rates are dropped in a 1.25b banish, simple observation

My heroes do the same amount of damage per attack in a 250m banish and a 1.25b banish

However my average damage per round is about half in a 1.25b banish versus the 250m banish

So if my heroes are all doing the same amount of damage that means shayd and cianna are stunning less. In fact just from my observations, albeit not very scientific, make me believe the stuns rates in a 1.25b banish are about 1/2 the stun rates of anything else.

Now one could argue that, the 1.25b banish is supposed to be harder, and I would agree. However what I dislike is how it is made harder. Stun rates are not something we have ANY control over. Why manipulate that? Instead manipulate the defensive powers of the Banish boss, which would make each attack from a hero do less damage, creating a similar effect but allowing us to manipulate our heroes to over come this challenge. By manipulating stun rates in banish, it becomes more of a lottery on how much overall damage you do, and does not make it feel like a challenge.

Some players from server 2 are able to dish out 120-180m damage on the 1.25b hp world boss.

I don't think their stun rates are nerfed at all.

Herby I can do anywhere from 85m to 150m myself. Thats not the point

The stun rates are nerfed, and there is no othe explanation for my observations. Everyone that I have talked to including myself is doing the same amount of damage per hero strike in 250m and 1.25b . But our total damage per round in a 1.25b banish is about 50% of what it is in a 250m banish. The only way that can happen is reducing stun rates. And if you watch the rounds you will see ciaana is stunning about 25% of teh time in a 1,25b banish while she stuns over 50% of the time in a 250m banish

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Herby I can do anywhere from 85m to 150m myself. Thats not the point

The stun rates are nerfed, and there is no othe explanation for my observations. Everyone that I have talked to including myself is doing the same amount of damage per hero strike in 250m and 1.25b . But our total damage per round in a 1.25b banish is about 50% of what it is in a 250m banish. The only way that can happen is reducing stun rates. And if you watch the rounds you will see ciaana is stunning about 25% of teh time in a 1,25b banish while she stuns over 50% of the time in a 250m banish

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Well in that case, then something is made harder for the 1.25b world boss.
As you said, a decreased stun rate might be the cause of it all.

I'm going to assume that he has a resistance to being stunned, the more powerful the boss the more attributes it has...that's probably one of them

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Originally Posted by Jupitor

I'm going to assume that he has a resistance to being stunned, the more powerful the boss the more attributes it has...that's probably one of them

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100% ur right

others u think u will get bigger boss but same defence rate and these stuff are u kidding me for sure he have more resis to get stun

also my cianna in 250m was doing alot of crit hits but in 1.250b its less and not complaining coz i know he got more power

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Originally Posted by MAYNON-NET

100% ur right

others u think u will get bigger boss but same defence rate and these stuff are u kidding me for sure he have more resis to get stun

also my cianna in 250m was doing alot of crit hits but in 1.250b its less and not complaining coz i know he got more power

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How much damage are you doing on the bosses?

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Originally Posted by Herby

How much damage are you doing on the bosses?

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Herby, do you know if the extra hero adds power to your "over all power"?

PS- Sorry out of topic :/

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Originally Posted by Boroeast

Herby, do you know if the extra hero adds power to your "over all power"?

PS- Sorry out of topic :/

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Yes I think it adds. Taking off the sub lowers total.

look i get that the boss should be stronger, but i want it stringer in a way we can power overselves up to counter act. All the devs did was give it more HP and reduces our stun rate
That is not making teh boss stronger. ITS DEFENSE IS THE SAME FROM 250M TO 1.25B I would rather see my heroes doing less damage per round on a 1.25b banish and the stuns be the same as a 250m, then what we have which is the defense is the same, with maybe a higher resilience rating (which is probably manipulated by the devs to be random instead of consistent as it is in other battles, and our stun rate which we can not change be cut in half.

They did not make the boss stronger, they weakened our heroes. Now you can argue no they gave the boss a higher stun resistance, but since stun resistance is not a player attribute, I disagree with that view. I think any boss that gets stunned less does not have a resistance to stun, I think in those battles the players stuns are reduced. So I guess its a view point.

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Originally Posted by MAYNON-NET

100% ur right

others u think u will get bigger boss but same defence rate and these stuff are u kidding me for sure he have more resis to get stun

also my cianna in 250m was doing alot of crit hits but in 1.250b its less and not complaining coz i know he got more power

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You were doing criting hits in Baal and Cerebus? I have never once seen a critical hit in either, I guess ours is still only 50M though. Maybe you can get crits on the upgraded guy.

cirts are for i believe 141 and higher crit basically you need a level 10 advantage
and a hero with a crit sainting or built in crit stat

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Originally Posted by mattp169

cirts are for i believe 141 and higher crit basically you need a level 10 advantage
and a hero with a crit sainting or built in crit stat

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lvl 8 advantage on Dawn I believe if you want one early.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

cirts are for i believe 141 and higher crit basically you need a level 10 advantage
and a hero with a crit sainting or built in crit stat

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Matt is correct the banish boss has resilience of 140 so u need at least 141 and that will give u an occasional crit. The higher above 141 your critical the more frequently you will get crits on the boss

Have you compared your damage in-fight with the 250M variant?

Is it really Shayd stunning lesser, or or is it because the 1.25B WB have better mitigation (lesser damage per hit)?

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Originally Posted by Ravior

Have you compared your damage in-fight with the 250M variant?

Is it really Shayd stunning lesser, or or is it because the 1.25B WB have better mitigation (lesser damage per hit)?

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He explained it below. He is doing the same amount of Damage per round as the 250m Boss, but Stunning about 50% less. That is easy to Compare.

Are Banish Crits possible with any hero, or just Dawn? Never got a clear answer on that. Thanks

I crit with Cianna and blood, both over the 140 crit.

LightBringer spirits with a lvl 10 crit rune make my Cianna , Blood.Calvin and my Main Archer Crit on WBs all the time. Doing 450k crits with main Archer on the 250 mill WB.

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Originally Posted by DaBooMan

I crit with Cianna and blood, both over the 140 crit.

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At this point, just a look from your leader Crit's Baal and Cerb at 150k lol

I crit with Calvin, Cianna, Main and Bloodstorm in World Bosses, it's just a matter of getting Crit stat over 140, you don't need to have lv.10 Advantage, if you got lucky with your sanctifications! ^^

Bloodstorm crits go for around 450k, so it's almost like a bonus round of damage for me whenever it happens.

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Originally Posted by Deucalion

At this point, just a look from your leader Crit's Baal and Cerb at 150k lol

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After playing about with forms, i found putting my leader in the front line helps with ciannas decrease stun rate, i think baal is afraid to hit my leader, it counteracts the stun drop :P

Last 2 days been getting very average but consistent rounds which are horrible, but today went back to normal, rounds ranging from 1.5m-13m damage.

Ah, didn't know there was a magic number. 141+ crit eh. That is going to take some work, Calvin is my only guy with a +crit at the moment, so that is going to be tough to get.