Alt accounts

I talked with someone today. That person told me they used to have an alt account in my guild. I thought this was forbidden, but there doesn't seem to be any real way in which this rule is applied. I've read through the forums and seen people complain about ALT GUILDS. Man, this problem looks big! I saw the mods tell the ones who compained about alt guilds that they were only annoying the community with their issues.

What actions are taken against that? What's the use of making rules if you don't apply them?

The solution looks quite simple to me. You need a system that registers IP adresses. If the same IP logs in on the same server, you ban both accounts. This means family members can't play on the same server, which seems okay to me. There can be a 3 day ban warning for the first time + the banning of one of the two accounts if that pleases Tynon.

Now, maybe this costs money. I've read everywhere in the forums that Tynon wants money and doesn't really care about in game issues. But please, if you don't apply this rule, don't pretend the rule exists and don't list it in your rules.

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

The solution looks quite simple to me. You need a system that registers IP adresses. If the same IP logs in on the same server, you ban both accounts. This means family members can't play on the same server, which seems okay to me. There can be a 3 day ban warning for the first time + the banning of one of the two accounts if that pleases Tynon.

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Dumb solution.

Ever heard of many people sharing the same IP address?

No. Example?

You can only have the same IP address if you share the same router (same house, neighbour doesn't protect his connection and you steal it, university's/café's connection, etc). Otherwise, your internet provider isn't supposed to provide twice the same IP address. And if it does, the two different users cannot navigate the Internet at the same time.

I don't believe many people organize Tynon lan parties. And it shoudn't be allowed to play on the same server if you're under the same roof.

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

The solution looks quite simple to me. You need a system that registers IP adresses. If the same IP logs in on the same server, you ban both accounts. This means family members can't play on the same server, which seems okay to me. There can be a 3 day ban warning for the first time + the banning of one of the two accounts if that pleases Tynon.

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Of course it would be fine by you if you arent sharing a house with others whom play. That's fairly selfish.

I'm pretty sure Tynon are aware of alt accounts. The game mechanics are developed in a way so that alts have as little benefit as possible.

Can alts be stopped? Well not really since nearly all MMO's have them, they seem to be part and parcel of the make up. They aren't allowed but it's very difficult to police and the best advice I or anyone can give is to report players whon you suspect of having numerous alts to Tynon Customer support.

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

No. Example?

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Same household.

Same university.

Same internet cafe / lanshop

Same coffee shop

etc

etc

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

I talked with someone today. That person told me they used to have an alt account in my guild. I thought this was forbidden, but there doesn't seem to be any real way in which this rule is applied. I've read through the forums and seen people complain about ALT GUILDS. Man, this problem looks big! I saw the mods tell the ones who compained about alt guilds that they were only annoying the community with their issues.

What actions are taken against that? What's the use of making rules if you don't apply them?

The solution looks quite simple to me. You need a system that registers IP adresses. If the same IP logs in on the same server, you ban both accounts. This means family members can't play on the same server, which seems okay to me. There can be a 3 day ban warning for the first time + the banning of one of the two accounts if that pleases Tynon.

Now, maybe this costs money. I've read everywhere in the forums that Tynon wants money and doesn't really care about in game issues. But please, if you don't apply this rule, don't pretend the rule exists and don't list it in your rules.

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whahahahah ohhh why did you have to get me started about this ^^

i send about 35 screenshots of a person using alt well actually 2

my support dont even get anwsered anymore so no tynon wont do anything against cheater only in the first servers

go look @ 108 lol there a guild with 15 people with almost the same name.. (15 alts)

alts are the way to win and that ip thing is useless you can OR hide ip or indeed more people playing on 1 ip say internetcafé or a brother sister that plays this

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

I'm pretty sure Tynon are aware of alt accounts. The game mechanics are developed in a way so that alts have as little benefit as possible.

Can alts be stopped? Well not really since nearly all MMO's have them, they seem to be part and parcel of the make up. They aren't allowed but it's very difficult to police and the best advice I or anyone can give is to report players whon you suspect of having numerous alts to Tynon Customer support.

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did you ever report someone yourself? and have that problem fixed?

im sorry but i dont believe in support anymore i gave 1000% proof of alts ..

NOTHING is done and dont tell me they got a warning and else its not working coz the alts are still active and being farmed and milked for maps :)

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

No. Example?

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We have four players in my household. The ip address that is reported is the one for the router.

i think one way to catch them about alt accounts if they admit that they have alt accounts. I even have one picture here. but, dunno if they'll sanction it. thats why I never posted my proof. should I still push through reporting it?

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Originally Posted by lamodomo_2092870

i think one way to catch them about alt accounts if they admit that they have alt accounts. I even have one picture here. but, dunno if they'll sanction it. thats why I never posted my proof. should I still push through reporting it?

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You can not discuss violations in the forum. Any suspected violations should be submitted to Billing Support at www.tynin.com

So as far as I understand, nothing is done to prevent alt accounts. People are against using IP addresses to identify alt accounts because 4 people in the same household sit next to one another all day playing Tynon. Is that right?

I understand that I could have 5 accounts on the same server to boost myself and my friends with maps, and I wouldn't encounter any problem. Is that right?

Is this thread still going?
Having more then 1 account per person per household is a violation of TOS.
If you suspect someone of violating TOS report them via billing support
Billing support is unable to share any information with you because of privacy concerns so you may never know the outcome of the investigation. the investigation can take a long time and does not always end up with definitive proof that someone is violating TOS. Without definitive proof they can not take action. What they define as definitive proof and what someone else describes as definitive proof may be totally different.
Actions have and will be taken about TOS violations
People have been banned for many reasons, and Tynon does take TOS violations seriously, even major coiners get banned.

Discussion of cheats hacks and exploits is a violation of forum policy

And now that I have posted in this thread

Where are those mods?

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Is this thread still going?
Having more then 1 account per person per household is a violation of TOS.
If you suspect someone of violating TOS report them via billing support
Billing support is unable to share any information with you because of privacy concerns so you may never know the outcome of the investigation. the investigation can take a long time and does not always end up with definitive proof that someone is violating TOS. Without definitive proof they can not take action. What they define as definitive proof and what someone else describes as definitive proof may be totally different.
Actions have and will be taken about TOS violations
People have been banned for many reasons, and Tynon does take TOS violations seriously, even major coiners get banned.

Discussion of cheats hacks and exploits is a violation of forum policy

And now that I have posted in this thread

Where are those mods?

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Here but I'm sorry that I've got a life :p

Discussion of cheats and hacks isn't permitted but the OP asked what can be done about alts and whether they are allowed.

No one here was glorfying the use of alts, naming suspects or offering the wrong advice. Reporting it to Customer Support is the correct way of dealing with potential ToS violaters.

okay, I'll just report it. thanks. wonder if they'll get banned or something. how should we know?

sorry for getting side track, is there a link here were I can see the game's TOS?

People saying they have alts is not viewed as definitive proof since they could just be boosting or drunk.
They will only take action when they find definitive proof of it and I can imagen it can take months.
Logical if you think about the consequences.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Is this thread still going?
Having more then 1 account per person per household is a violation of TOS.
If you suspect someone of violating TOS report them via billing support
Billing support is unable to share any information with you because of privacy concerns so you may never know the outcome of the investigation. the investigation can take a long time and does not always end up with definitive proof that someone is violating TOS. Without definitive proof they can not take action. What they define as definitive proof and what someone else describes as definitive proof may be totally different.
Actions have and will be taken about TOS violations
People have been banned for many reasons, and Tynon does take TOS violations seriously, even major coiners get banned.

Discussion of cheats hacks and exploits is a violation of forum policy

And now that I have posted in this thread

Where are those mods?

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Are you saying that if I play the game my wife and children can not play too? How is that a violation of ToS?

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Originally Posted by Andy

Are you saying that if I play the game my wife and children can not play too? How is that a violation of ToS?

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ONE ACCOUNT PER PERSON IN A HOUSEHOLD
sorry
maybe i mistated that each household can have unlimited accts but only one per person in the household.

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Here but I'm sorry that I've got a life :p

Discussion of cheats and hacks isn't permitted but the OP asked what can be done about alts and whether they are allowed.

No one here was glorfying the use of alts, naming suspects or offering the wrong advice. Reporting it to Customer Support is the correct way of dealing with potential ToS violaters.

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I know you are busy busy busy, maybe you need another mod to help you out here. Me and Boo volunteer

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Originally Posted by lamodomo_2092870

sorry for getting side track, is there a link here were I can see the game's TOS?

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Sure, you can go through the Tynon homepage and click Terms of Use under where you log in your details...or click this Terms of Use

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Originally Posted by Andy

Are you saying that if I play the game my wife and children can not play too? How is that a violation of ToS?

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It's one account per person, not household.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

I know you are busy busy busy, maybe you need another mod to help you out here. Me and Boo volunteer

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Hell no. :p

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Hell no. :p

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Pretty Please???

wow. wound just a bit left of center...but they must know you well to speak to you in such a way....Anyway leave off it. 5 people live in my house and if Tynon wants our money and or time, however we play no they will not enact a stupid IPbanner. Are you nuts? To get you and other like you that live and or play alone to stop whining, who do you think they would rather play, 50 people that use 1 free account, 50 people that use a paid account, and to make that paid sound even better 5 accounts in one house will ensure that those 5 people stay and don't care if they lose 50 freebies finders which are not making them money. Honestly another 50 F2Ps will come. You might want to rethink what you are asking. Too many paying players leave they might start an $X.XX fee/month. Which would mean paying player come back and you leave because you are forced to pay. (You as in a general use of You so don't scream about how I don't know you or how you play, I don't want to, just trying to get the other side from some one you think doesn't deserve to play because its something our family likes to do together. I have more harsh word actually, but these will do.)Happy Playing lonely one may your quest one day friend be a memory.

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

I'm pretty sure Tynon are aware of alt accounts. The game mechanics are developed in a way so that alts have as little benefit as possible.

Can alts be stopped? Well not really since nearly all MMO's have them, they seem to be part and parcel of the make up. They aren't allowed but it's very difficult to police and the best advice I or anyone can give is to report players whon you suspect of having numerous alts to Tynon Customer support.

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complaining to admin is pointless as they ignore EVERY complaint about cheats. To rid the game of cheats we should first get rid of the inept staff of admin and put decent ones in their place

<player name deleted> of server 108 has 50 alts in his guild and it has been reported to admin but as usual they ignore it, the same as they ignore screenshots of him getting 8 gold runes in a row within a couple of minutes or getting 6 cards and 2 lev 7 chips from casino in a row or 1000 gems followed by 1000 gems there, seeing he is a VIP2 it is not gems that has seen him grow to 4 times the power of those who do not cheat. In fact as he hardly has an imagination for naming his alts it does show how totally inept admin is if they cannot spot these as alts :
Bloodrage guild
<player names deleted>

its not the cheats that kill of the servers, its the total ignorance of admin to do anything about cheats

i always hear the same reasons for same IP addresses, but doesnt anyone take being mobile into consideration? free WIFI is everywhere now, you go from your local mc donalds with free wifi couple blocks down to the coffee shop with free wifi, then to school with free wifi for students and after uni you go shopping at the mall and use the free wifi from payless and the pharmacy... i log on tynon sometimes over 20 times a day, from my PC, my laptop and my gf's laptop and even from my cell (i5 with puffn) and i am pretty sure they are all different IP's but i can ensure you that i am the only one who uses my account. now given that tynon is not one of the most popular games that are out there, its the one that i currently enjoy most and i am very positive there is at least one more in our city that playes it. now lets assume there is another who does and at some point we where at the same mall in the same pharmacy (not at the same time, that would be creepy) playing tynon. who would you ban? him, me, both...?


EDIT: in another game i play they started to check the emails and if the email confirmation and monthly routine check doesnt check out the account gets temp blocked until the owner confirms it.

This is a necro. I created this thread when I was a new player back in December... Why? Why necro?

I suspect that the folks from UCool will do nothing about the alts. In their other game, Evony you see people with hundreds of them and they quite happily allow that even though its against T.O.S.

Unfortunately, it will never be an even playing field. However, I will say on a positive note that the developers for Tynon do make an effort to bring to the game what is asked for by the players, so maybe if we ask them enough times to ban the alt accounts it may happen.

HI
Let me jump into this issue.
I play in 1 guild with 3 toon so i can sail on my main toon and guild got more contrubation.

How i get 3 toon?
after server merge 3 server 3 toon.
Many player in our guild doing same things
We have that toon Legally its cannot call ALT because they are from same account. but different in server.
So Tynon will not and cannot do anything.

Here the things, other player are active enough and build extra toon to ahead of other guild. 8 to 12 hr play time a day
Some player are just come for cerb baal and gw about 2-3 hr play time a day.
This game is simple pay hard and play hard.
even you can pay a bit cannot match to play hard player
if you pay and play hard is the best :P

just leave alt issue bro
If they have 2 alt, you better make 3 or 4 alt to beat them. That will be BIG FUN

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

This is a necro. I created this thread when I was a new player back in December... Why? Why necro?

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It happens. However, in the spirit of Gandulf.

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