Rune management now imposible.

I'll make the math simple so even the geniuses can understand.

1) there are 14 rune categories, add +3 for the combined effect runes, = 17 rune types needed.
Need 5 of each to have full sets. = 85

2) you have 12 bodies, at L60 they have 5 slots each = 60 slots.

and that does not include any work space to store and manage.

Even at 8 slots each it doesn't work.


BTW in order to use the "combine all" i MUST clear the rune area onto bodies ...

otherwise I'm moving 60 point runes around one at a time trying to build a 7000+ point rune? ... or 15k, or 60k , more?!?!?
conclusion:
it is totally impossible to manage runes this way.

I agree the new rune management system doesn't make sense.

During the entire beta patch, the rune screen showed all a player's heroes. But today it was limited to the 9 heroes.

I don't know why this changed.

9? I have 12 guys in the rune window that I can put runes on. I would like to know what happened to all the stars I had on the old blue heroes that no longer show up. Although I guess it no longer matters.

Eh, nevermind about the stars. I see now how to swap guys in and out

Runes are a pain to do now; how they will give us some additional storing slots in the temple itself.

they should have just allowed you to move heroes to inn WITH runes not without.. can store them fine there -.- so yes i am raped to with 10 runes hanging around not able to equip unless i spend like 50m credits on useless heroes.. to open extra slots

shoot I don't see a reason in having so many vacant runes... sorry maybe I just play more aggressive, sure I have 3 sets of runes I switch between heroes for different situations, but there is no reason that 12 heroes to place runes on are not enough.

I find the game changes are not my area of game play.. totally messed up my Hero....... I guess i wont play anymore :(

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Originally Posted by Herby

I agree the new rune management system doesn't make sense.

During the entire beta patch, the rune screen showed all a player's heroes. But today it was limited to the 9 heroes.

I don't know why this changed.

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Probably has to do with the fact that you cant rest a hero with runes on it. If that were changed to where they could, it'd fix the issue with rune management.

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Originally Posted by VillainX

Probably has to do with the fact that you cant rest a hero with runes on it. If that were changed to where they could, it'd fix the issue with rune management.

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It would at least allow us to store runes but you would have to constantly be moving heroes in and out of the Inn to get to the Runes. Now the only thing that you can find out about the Heroes in the Inn is their name. No stats or special ability. The would also have to provide a way to display what runes each Hero in the Inn has. What need to happen is for the Heroes display in the Rune temple to have all the Heroes like it used to and like it was in the beta server with the patch on.

I got a better idea
BURN THE HERO INN
Its stupid not needed and all its doing is causing frustration for every player.

Overall, I like the hero inn. Only improvement that I feel it needs is the ability to see at least the skill attack of the heroes in it. Even better would be the ability to see stats, but the skill attack would be plenty for me.

What I dont understand is you have to strip the hero naked to put them in the inn, thats even more stupid.

I love the idea of the inn, just would appreciate a new place to store runes while they are being built up. Also the equipment as well. It would be better for changing things around.

It's an attempt to get more people to hit VIP5 I would imagine.

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Originally Posted by KimmiKiss_7957669

What I dont understand is you have to strip the hero naked to put them in the inn, thats even more stupid.

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yeah they lost me there to everyone has spare runes.. now if i take a hero out of the inn i cant put him back in coz he has spare runes.. really nice with saint-.- cant move hero so cant saint,.

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shoot I don't see a reason in having so many vacant runes... sorry maybe I just play more aggressive, sure I have 3 sets of runes I switch between heroes for different situations, but there is no reason that 12 heroes to place runes on are not enough.

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Does that mean when you get a rune you don't think you are going to use, you destroy it? ie. you get a Messiness or Resistance, you think "I'm never going to need more than 1 or 2 of those" and destroy all extras. And what about sets for reserve slots?

Yes we do need an "Inn" just for runes, I like the way you can only have 9 heros on the side , it keeps the ones I don't really use out of the way.....but we really do need a rune management system / Inn / area. Maybe next patch Tynon?

We don't need a new area. All that will bring is new bugs and more problems.
The rune temple and the Hero Inn should be separate. Period.
The limits for one should not govern those of the others. With them tied together it tied us up at the same time.

Set the temple back to the way it was and it solves the rune issue.

Additionally, these "Family Champions" we are gaining SHOULD have level appropriate gear already.
It's beyond all logic that a hero would have NO GEAR at all. It makes no sense.
Jewels need not be included. But they SHOULD have gear already.

Gorgon

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Originally Posted by jweb_4_8938282

Additionally, these "Family Champions" we are gaining SHOULD have level appropriate gear already.
It's beyond all logic that a hero would have NO GEAR at all. It makes no sense.
Jewels need not be included. But they SHOULD have gear already.

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Unfortunately, this is their idea of slowing down progression and giving us more stuff to do (anything that requires stamina - grinding for gear / royal arena).

Regarding runes: the heroes that were automatically placed into inn when the update hit has runes still equipped. Why force you to unequip runes before putting a hero into inn? Is it just concern that users will flood the support staff with "my runes are gone" tickets? Leaving runes on heroes isn't ideal (you have to take them out of inn before you can see runes). but certainly better than having to move runes one at time off a hero so that u can rest him.

This is the answer I from billing support

• Stanley Dec 11 2013, 12:23 AMGreetings,
  Thank you for your feedback. We're actively reading into your words and making note of suggestions offered to make this game more playable. Some changes may have some effects on certain players but all those changes are subjected to better enhance the majority's game experience.
  Thanks again for the feedback.
  Best Regards,
  Tynon Support
  

You can saint when hero is in the inn. Just use the card and it will show the saints.

Dumbest thread ever. First of all you only need 8 runes per hero, not 17, and even if you swap out a full set of runes for WBs, that's still only 16. And you have 12 heroes to do this with so you can hold a full extra set of runes for your hero. Not to mention, once you have a Veng, you no longer need to worry about phys or skill attack for that particular hero.

I can understand wanting to have extra sets of runes, I know I do, but you don't need five of each type of rune, that's just stupid. Also, even if you have 2-3 different sets of runes, there is still alot of rune overlap.

Why would you ever need to get 5 magic damage runes, you're never going to have a magic user main as a for instance.

As for the idiot that complained about spending credits on a hero just to hold runes. On tuesday, heroes are free, welcome to the game.

In summary, if you're having trouble with rune management it's because you're holding on to runes for no reason at all, cut down on your useless runes and you'll be fine.

I change my heroes around a lot for different purposes.
I have three extra sets of runes; completing a total of 8 heroes.
I have extra defensive runes for different situation so all can have magic defense or any of the others.
When switching heroes this is a nuisance, mainly because the general slots are just not enough.
With only 12 heroes in it takes a lot of time to switch the runes.
Not a huge problem, but a nuisance...

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I change my heroes around a lot for different purposes.
I have three sets of runes; completing a total of 8 heroes.
I have extra defensive runes for different situation so all can have magic defense or any of the others.
When switching heroes this is a nuisance, mainly because the general slots are just not enough.
With only 12 heroes in it takes a lot of time to switch the runes.
Not a huge problem, but a nuisance...

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Actually there will be a problem as the backup heroes slots open up. Now I have 6 active heroes. That means 6 messiness runes that I have to store for swapping in. When I open up the next backup slot that will be 7 active heroes and 5 inactive. There is no way to store the 7 messiness runes in 5 heroes.

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Actually there will be a problem as the backup heroes slots open up. Now I have 6 active heroes. That means 6 messiness runes that I have to store for swapping in. When I open up the next backup slot that will be 7 active heroes and 5 inactive. There is no way to store the 7 messiness runes in 5 heroes.

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Why keep so many messiness runes in the first place?

You'll never need them

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Why keep so many messiness runes in the first place?

You'll never need them

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I use them to swap in when I am facing a Boss where he and most of the monsters are magic users.

I agree that rune storage is a huge issue... the hero inn has made managing things way more of a pain ... to not be able to store runes or see the stats of the heroes is a major issue.. this game really needs a rune storage vault... and not like bank where you need to spend outrageous amounts of gems to open them all... that is another epic fail.. if you won't give us a storage vault PLZ burn the inn!! I spent credits on heroes to be able to store runes .. for what .. to have it taken away..

Agree rune management is literally being used to "squeeze" us into spending more gems. I recruited heroes and opened slots specifically for ability to store runes so I could have many options for different kinds of attacks and play. This rune inn thing is CLEARLY an attempt to limit us and NOT to help us in any way. The only possible advantage of an inn would be not having to read-in the full equipment and rune database on refresh but we're talking milliseconds. So what't the deal???

Give us a rune storage area or just let us keep them on characters in or out of Inn. Why should a hero need to strip naked when checking into "the inn". The whole concept is banal and outright irrational.