2 reasons i wont spend money on this game

I like this game, its fun and keeps me entertained for an hour or 2 a day, but if im gonna spend my hard earned cashmola i need more stamina.

#1 stamina we need more stamina i can blow through 200 stamina in an hour without breakin a sweat, keep the 1 every 10 min but double the daily amount and i will pay to play.

#2 more quest lines please, not as important as stamina but would spice things up a little if there where more quest to complete.

again i enjoy playing, and the new improvments thank you akla thornfist from forrest realm

2 reasons; they don't care. If you don't, others will

The stamina thing I suspect was a reaction to some of the complaints about evony.

There are a few ways to gain stamina in the game. For example, guild chests award stamina a lot...
The quests pose a challenge for the player ~~ I think quests are alright, but I dislike the lvl requirements and such, I just wanna get on with the game.
There are also a few things that are fun to do without stamina, like Rag or Baal and etc, and guild wars are interesting, too.
~You don't need money for power. ~

Stamina is what regulates the entire games progression. It is the one thing that keeps the coiners from pulling EVEN further ahead of the non coiners. This being said, it has gotten to where stamina being regenerated at 1 per 10 minutes is a little slow for some folks, myself included. It remains to be seen what the actual buff for lv 8 npc is going to be, regardless of the wording that's there now... and tho i know that most guilds are a LONG way off from it... that, when its reached, could have the potential to really be the fix for the stamina issue that we as players need.

I was one of the ones that was getting fed up waiting for new content to be released not too long ago, and the developers have come through pretty solidly in my opinion, so I do retract my position on that. That being said, I do know that there's a catch to pretty much everything in the game, and I have the feeling that this stamina buff from the level 8 NPC is going to fall into that category. I will wait and find out how the level 8 buff is going to work before I pass judgement on the fact that each royal arena attempt costs 5 stamina regardless of victory or defeat.

(though I am not thrilled about it. I think since it's "per attempt" instead of "per victory" that it costs us, that 1 stamina per attempt should be sufficient).

Also, there is a chance to get stamina from the Guild Treasure Chests daily, so for those that can afford to spend the contributions, this can be a "chance" at more stamina.

As far as having more questlines in the game... this is something that has been discussed more than once here in the forum, and I believe the majority of the player base would enjoy this as well. Not just "Grind it out to advance" type quests, but also side quests that focus on and reveal backstories on some of the heroes themselves, or the characters in aerie city. This would bring a new aspect to the game without changing too much of the actual gameplay and battle strategy itself, but give the game a deeper feel to it than the common "auto grind it out so i can advance to pvp better" feeling alot of higher level players have.

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Originally Posted by VillainX

Stamina is what regulates the entire games progression. It is the one thing that keeps the coiners from pulling EVEN further ahead of the non coiners. This being said, it has gotten to where stamina being regenerated at 1 per 10 minutes is a little slow for some folks, myself included. It remains to be seen what the actual buff for lv 8 npc is going to be, regardless of the wording that's there now... and tho i know that most guilds are a LONG way off from it... that, when its reached, could have the potential to really be the fix for the stamina issue that we as players need.

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If stamina is meant to slow down coiners, why are you allowed to BUY STAMINA with gems? If a coiner bought the max amount each day every day, they would still be way ahead as a result. It DOES regulate progression, but it's meant to regulate progression of NON-coiners. It's: "If you are willing to pay, you are still allowed to progress faster!"

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If stamina is meant to slow down coiners, why are you allowed to BUY STAMINA with gems? If a coiner bought the max amount each day every day, they would still be way ahead as a result. It DOES regulate progression, but it's meant to regulate progression of NON-coiners. It's: "If you are willing to pay, you are still allowed to progress faster!"

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While this is true, the price for stamina is STEEP. Most who have spent utilize their gems in a manner that brings them power, and at the price of 20 gems for 25 stamina for the first use, it just isn't worth spending gems on.

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Stamina is what regulates the entire games progression

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Very well said.

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While this is true, the price for stamina is STEEP. Most who have spent utilize their gems in a manner that brings them power, and at the price of 20 gems for 25 stamina for the first use, it just isn't worth spending gems on.

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Yes, it is just steep enough to prevent non-coiners from using it. Like i said, it slows the progression of non-coiners more than heavy coiners. We are in agreement on that. I am not describing an absolute, but relatively speaking, the stamina slows the progression of non-coiners more than coiners - this is fact and the logic cannot be argued. You can say "stamina regulates progression", but not "stamina keeps coiners from pulling even further ahead of non-coiners" because it is actually opposite of that when you have the ability to buy stamina.

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Yes, it is just steep enough to prevent non-coiners from using it. Like i said, it slows the progression of non-coiners more than heavy coiners. We are in agreement on that. I am not describing an absolute, but relatively speaking, the stamina slows the progression of non-coiners more than coiners - this is fact and the logic cannot be argued. You can say "stamina regulates progression", but not "stamina keeps coiners from pulling even further ahead of non-coiners" because it is actually opposite of that when you have the ability to buy stamina.

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You misunderstand my statement... Let me rephrase. Yes the option is there to do so. I'm sure people have and will buy stamina. BUT it is pretty much a waste of gems to do so, which is why most coiners don't buy stamina. For the gem price it costs, there are MUCH more efficient ways to add power than buying stamina to be able to grind gear or for any other reason. Most strong players will wait for the stamina to regen on its own, wait for the 2 free stamina bonuses daily, or try to get it from guild chests instead of buying it.

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Originally Posted by VillainX

You misunderstand my statement... Let me rephrase. Yes the option is there to do so. I'm sure people have and will buy stamina. BUT it is pretty much a waste of gems to do so, which is why most coiners don't buy stamina. For the gem price it costs, there are MUCH more efficient ways to add power than buying stamina to be able to grind gear or for any other reason. Most strong players will wait for the stamina to regen on its own, wait for the 2 free stamina bonuses daily, or try to get it from guild chests instead of buying it.

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No, I totally understood what you said, I said we are in agreement because what you said is completely the same as my point, except you chose to twist it in a different way, so let me rephrase:

The stamina system regulates progression. No argument there. It would regulate progression EQUALLY if you are NOT allowed to buy it. This logic that it is too expensive and inefficient is NOT the point. It is an option given to those who can. Expensive is relative and not only that, no one would describe it as "so expensive that no one would use it." Heck, there are a few on my server that started late and admitted to buying extra stamina to catch up and pass everyone on gear and xp. They didn't buy mysterious chest however, as they felt THAT was more of a rip off than stamina. (the chest IS a rip off, but we see people buying those all the time)

Simply put, if you can't buy stamina, then it regulates progression equally for coiners and non. If you allow it to be purchased, then AT BEST it is equal if all coiners NEVER EVER use it and certainly can't be "keeps the coiners from pulling EVEN further ahead of the non coiners." Stamina with the option to buy it allows coiners another means to pull ahead of non-coiners, not the other way around.

One last point: without the stamina system, people with lots of TIME on their hands can progress faster. The stamina system is meant to fix THAT. Now that they've slowed down people with lots of free time, it makes it easier to monetize the desire for progression. And better yet, monetize stamina directly, which is what they've done. There's nothing wrong with that. They are a company trying to make as much money as possible. It just kills me to hear players say something that even the company wouldn't dare to misrepresent. Can you imagine that? I create something that stops non-coiners with lots of free time from progressing too fast, therefore giving them one less way to avoid spending money to progress faster. I expected a backlash from the players, but instead players come out saying I did this to slow down coiners?!