Champ Warfare Tickets

I would be interested in hearing a different perspective on the value of these Championship Warfare tickets. I don't play beta so I only have the information from my live server to go on. Here is what I have formulated in my head.

You get a free 100 ticket bet per fight. You can ante up this bet for 10 gems to multiply the bet by 2 or for 25 gems (total, 10+15) to multiple by 3. In my first 2 fights I have won and upped the ante to the max. So, I have paid a total of 25 gems per fight and I now have a total of 2800 tickets. I got 2000 free for registering. I won 600 though my bets and I don't know how I got the other 200.

So, let's continue down this path. It costs 50 gems for 600 tickets or in this case maybe 800 tickets. Not sure but let's use 800 since it gives the game the benefit of the doubt and it makes the math simpler. 800 tickets for 50 gems. It costs 10,000 tickets to redeem for a level 5 chip in the ticket exchange. Nice, I only have to win 8,000 tickets since they gave me 20% of the total cost for free. To win 8,000 tickets using the ante betting system that would equate to 500 gems assuming I have enough fights and wins. It's been a long day but I think my math is right there.

If I take a quick trip over to the Fair I can see her offering me two level 5 chips. I can buy a Topaz for 737 gems or a Ruby for 633 gems. These costs can vary wildly obviously. I can also get these chips from the Lab for 100 tokens a piece.

What am I missing? Maybe the CW rewards will go up as we progress through the tournament? I can't see where it's justifiable to spend gems to up the bet on the fights. Maybe some will say that savings on gems is great but I'm not buying a level 5 chip for 500 gems.

Each round of the championship the base bet goes up, to about 1k for the finals.

When you bet on a match you will win your stake '100' which costs you nothing to place. 3 rounds to a match for the prelims so if you could bet you'd win 300. (Losing when playing also yeilds the bet amount, so losing nets you 300 as well.) However when your actually playing in the match you win double the stake, so if you win your prelim fight 3-0 you gain 600 tickets, still at no cost to you.


As the rounds of the tourney progress through you will be seeing the 800,900,1000 base bets from the quarters to grandfinals.
The Grand Final is a Best of 11. So if you can get them all right thats 11k tickets without any cost to you from 1 round alone.


Forget what the gems cost to up the ante, have you ever seen anyone summon the runekeeper in the rune temple for 200gems?? Some things are just a bad investment. You will get plenty of tickets just by participating, both playing and betting.

I went 7-1 last night (all 3-0 matches win or lose)
So 4200 tickets from my 7 wins.
300 tickets from my 1 lose.

6500 tickets total without a gem spent.

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Originally Posted by Swanky

I would be interested in hearing a different perspective on the value of these Championship Warfare tickets. I don't play beta so I only have the information from my live server to go on. Here is what I have formulated in my head.

You get a free 100 ticket bet per fight. You can ante up this bet for 10 gems to multiply the bet by 2 or for 25 gems (total, 10+15) to multiple by 3. In my first 2 fights I have won and upped the ante to the max. So, I have paid a total of 25 gems per fight and I now have a total of 2800 tickets. I got 2000 free for registering. I won 600 though my bets and I don't know how I got the other 200.

So, let's continue down this path. It costs 50 gems for 600 tickets or in this case maybe 800 tickets. Not sure but let's use 800 since it gives the game the benefit of the doubt and it makes the math simpler. 800 tickets for 50 gems. It costs 10,000 tickets to redeem for a level 5 chip in the ticket exchange. Nice, I only have to win 8,000 tickets since they gave me 20% of the total cost for free. To win 8,000 tickets using the ante betting system that would equate to 500 gems assuming I have enough fights and wins. It's been a long day but I think my math is right there.

If I take a quick trip over to the Fair I can see her offering me two level 5 chips. I can buy a Topaz for 737 gems or a Ruby for 633 gems. These costs can vary wildly obviously. I can also get these chips from the Lab for 100 tokens a piece.

What am I missing? Maybe the CW rewards will go up as we progress through the tournament? I can't see where it's justifiable to spend gems to up the bet on the fights. Maybe some will say that savings on gems is great but I'm not buying a level 5 chip for 500 gems.

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your extra ante applies across all battles within the particular round. So your 25 gems paid for a 300 ticket bet for rounds 1, 2, and 3. This become more valuable as we move into best of 5, 7, 9, and 11 rounds. at the 11 round fight you're looking at 3300 tickets for 25 gems if you bet correctly. that's 16 blue medals, a 160 gem value (80 on fridays) for 25 gems. overall not too overpriced.

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Originally Posted by Kruize

I went 7-1 last night (all 3-0 matches win or lose)

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How the heck did you get 8 matches? I only fought one and only got 2 rounds before the countdown jumped to 23 hrs.

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Originally Posted by Rocco

How the heck did you get 8 matches? I only fought one and only got 2 rounds before the countdown jumped to 23 hrs.

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pretty sure he's on the Asia/pacific servers. They had CW earlier than we did in the US> Also they've given us 5k extra tickets now because they postponed CW. refresh and there is a mail and the tickets are in your bank.

Thanks, the information in this thread helps clarify for everyone. It makes much more sense now.

Our champ warfare on asia/pacific, 17hrs hours earlier then the US one, went off without a hitch. We have day 2 in a couple hours. Europe was fairly fine too from what I heard.

I think the US was just overloaded honestly. They weren't prepared for it completely.

Anyone know how long we have to spend the tickets? The tournament will end in a few days, will the store be open after the tournament is over?

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Originally Posted by Kruize

Our champ warfare on asia/pacific, 17hrs hours earlier then the US one, went off without a hitch. We have day 2 in a couple hours. Europe was fairly fine too from what I heard.

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The Euro one has gone through without a hitch, except after the US crash it was restarted.

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Originally Posted by DrthCaedus

I think the US was just overloaded honestly. They weren't prepared for it completely.

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That sucked for you guys. Glad it's going more smoothly this time round

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Originally Posted by klink2112_222714

Anyone know how long we have to spend the tickets? The tournament will end in a few days, will the store be open after the tournament is over?

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At a reasonable guess, indefinitely.

plus a level 5 chip is just 5 level 4 chips or 25 level 3 chips. Every trip to the lab is at least 1 free Level 3 chip.

The only benefit I see is that it would be cheaper to spend the tickets on Coin, Credits, and medals than to buy these directly at retail. I've done my test 2 times I've spent gems (20 total) on upping bets and by my calculations I would say "RIP-OFF".

Actually, I did the following calculation for the tickets.
This helps me to see if a bet is worth it.
This calculation is based on the premisses that 1500k coins for 10 gems is an average deal in fair with Tynon.
I choose not to calculate for the best deal, nor for the worst deal.

1500.000 coins = 10 gems
150.000 coins = 1 gem
2000.000 coins = 13,3 gems = 500 tickets

13,3 gems = 500 tickets
2,66 gems = 100 tickets
13,3 gems = 1.000.000 credits

This means for shop:

2,000K coins = 500 tickets = 13,3 gems
1,000k credits = 500 tickets = 13,3 gems
Blue star = 200 tickets = 5,32 gems
Purple star = 2000 tickets = 53,20 Gems
Lv4 Jewel = 5000 tickets = 133 gems
lv5 Jewel = 10000 Tickets = 266 Gems
Lv6 Jewel = 20000 Tickets = 532 Gems
Lv7 Jewel = 50000 Tickets = 1330 Gems
Purple Hero = 5000 Tickets = 133 gems = 10.000k credits
Gold Hero = 8000 Tickets = 212,8 gems = 16.000k credits
Blood = 15000 Tickets = 399 Gems = 30.000k credits
Main = 18000 Tickets = 478,8 Gems = 36.000k credits

In my view this means the jewels at ticket prize are a great deal.

Adam should be 12000 tickets at least.
level 5 jewels should be 8000
level 6 jewels should be 12000
level 7 jewels should be 20000

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

The Euro one has gone through without a hitch, except after the US crash it was restarted.

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except that it gave a point to whoever won the third round; not best out of three ;).
That seems fixed though.

And don't forget that the deal is even better because your use of 10 or even another 15 gems doubles or triples your bet. So you have several hundred tickets for free.

Wildflower, I found an error in your post with the ticket to gem conversions for the prices: you put 1,000k coins, it should be credits.

Also Thank You for the great post, I was going to figure this out myself since I'm done with finals now, but you saved me the trouble.

Edit: Changed my mind about bookmarking the page, think I can remember the parts I need.

Very nicely done Wild, inclined to to agree with Revan, this should be stickied too.
From my perspective stars and the highest jewels one can afford (given that all of them are cheaper than fair prices and lvl 7 is less than 5x the price of lvl 6) are the best value in the shop.

You can ask to sticky threads but IMHO, this one isn't really worth it. Sorry.

Once the championship is over do you have to spend the tickets or can you keep them so that you can add more to your account on the next championship?

I don't know for sure, but I would assume we can keep them.