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If it failed at 100% open a ticket. Make sure you include the server and your game name in that server in the information provided. Be as specific as possible including the approximate date and server time when it happen. If you have any evidence, such as screen captures, attach it to the ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPAWN_901238
Andy, you edited the post with your response and that confused me for a bit.
On the other subject... rigged isn't the same as predetermined. Rigged implies they were set up a certain way in order to accomplish something (supposedly make more money). While predetermined strings, set up at random is still random.
I am so tired of hearing that the tavern is rigged. I would like some one to tell me how it is. As far as I can see it is working as designed. There are some very low odds of getting a purple hero and even lower of getting a gold one, but that does not mean that it is rigged. The loaded dice and magnet in the roulette wheel analogy does not apply because those are designed to lower the natural odds. There are no neutral odds on a computer game because they are determined by the program, but in some cases there are stared odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by swifty_6963349
There are no stated odds in the tavern so there is no way to say that it is rugged because whatever the odds are is what they are supposed to be.
On sanctification there are stated odds. To prove that the stated odds are not what is actually happening you need a statistically significant sample, and that is not 10 or 50 or even 100. I am not a statistician, but it is probably in the thousands if you want a high degree of confidence, say 98 or 99 percent, that your results are valid.
The choice is made when the shuffle is done NOT when the player chooses.
That was admitted to a long time ago. I CBA to look it up but the oldtimers know who said it and when.
Do you honestly believe that when 3 purple and gold show up, with 1 blue and a grey to round it out, that the odds favor the grey being chosen?
Probably 99,999 out of 100k times that combo comes up the GREY will be the one selected. Bad luck? Not hardly.
Andy, the tavern IS rigged. It seems that everybody but you know about it.
You just admitted that it's rigged. Yes you did. Don't deny it. Stay away from that river.
If it isn't rigged then the percentages for each card would be exactly the same. You admitted that they aren't Any alteration of those percentages means it's rigged.
Thus the dice and roulette analogies are correct. The code is weighted in favor of greys.
Four blue and 1 grey and I get grey. I HAVE had 4 gold/pink and 1 grey and I get the grey.
Haven't you noticed how the gold/pink move 1 slot away yet the grey will move across the board to be selected?
That isn't suspicious to you?
Get a CLUE.
Colonel Mustard
p.s. Who better than me to know a CLUE when I see one?
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Originally Posted by swifty_6963349
You have a misunderstanding of how the odds of a card draw are calculated. Each hero has a set draw rate say Cianna is 10% of the time she shows up she will be selected, but for a more rare hero say Adam only .5% of the time he shows up he will be selected. It is not 20% for each card that shows up, but instead a set % for each card stretching across every time it shows up.
Are you saying that anything in the game is rigged if it does not behave the way you what it to? I will grant that having the card flip as a graphic is some what misleading but that does not make it rigged. Look at my definition of rigged. The dictionary says "To manipulate fraudulently". How can the behavior that the game intended to have be fraudulently?Quote:
Originally Posted by swifty_6963349
Loaded dice aren't rigged either so long as it's not stated as 1/6 each then...
Well... doesn't matter what we call it. We all know tavern is predetermined with low odds in getting good cards. Btw, saints are predetermined as well. Think somewhere on this thread I said I didn't think they were, but apparently I didn't know what I was talking about (friend recently convinced me).
This has been understood for some time. Your saint progression is predetermined. Previously when you reset your saints you were put on a new randomized path.Quote:
Originally Posted by g346007_1906957
Pre-determined = rigged.
Weighted percentage = rigged.
What we select at the draw isn't what WE select. It's already been decided before we make a selection. That = rigged.
By setting low percentages for certain cards then that IS rigged.
When cards appear before the shuffle they should all have an equal chance of being selected by the player. They don't.
The game selects the winning card. Not the player. That is rigged. A pre-determined outcome isn't chance.
That a player is "lucky" to get a good card isn't in dispute. But it isn't the players choice that determines the luck.
"You have a misunderstanding of how the odds of a card draw are calculated."
No, I don't.
We are NOT given a choice. Do you not understand that?
What we select is NOT our choice. What appears there is chosen by the game. Not by us.
That equals rigged.
If, when we entered the tavern we were told "here's your card," would you consider that a choice?
That IS what is happening now. Only it's dressed up a bit more than that.
That doesn't change the fact that the card is selected before we choose a spot in the game.
That IS a rigged game.
The only choice we truly have in the tavern is how to spend our spirits.
The tavern "game" isn't even a game. Except in the sense that we are being "gamed."
Colonel Mustard
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Originally Posted by swifty_6963349
It is not rigged...the outcome is determined the moment you click refresh based on a specific algorithm that Tynon has programmed into the game.
It is no more rigged than any game of chance with set odds (bingo, lottery, etc.). The fact is that it has never been stated that we had a "choice" all it ever told us is that we could flip over a card. The choice is something that you assumed. Rigged implies malice and ill intent, Tynon has displayed none of that. predetermined does not equal rigged.