Formation Saver Suggestion

What is Formation saver?

Here , whenever we want to do world bosses, we have to change runes and items and heros and etc.. to be ready for world bosses and to get the formation ready.

how about creating a system that allow us to save our formations for world bosses and PVP formations too so by 1 click on the formation we want the heros and items and runes switchs for World bosses formation that or pvp formation "we saved it " ,that would make things so easy and way comfortable.

As far as i thought about creating this system wouldn't be so hard at all, im also a Beginner programmer and i know about those stuff, but its pretty hard to imagine some systems like that on tynon without working on it.

Also explaining about the idea without creating picture explaning how it would work its pretty useless and extremely hard to show the full idea to everyone.

Lets try to explain about it and giving a hint about this idea, how to separate runes and Save them

Runes -Example: (Form-A,B,C,D,E,F#1,2,3,4,5,6)

(Form A#1,2,3,4,5,6)-(PVP FORMATION):

DNX

Vengence-A#1
Endurance-A#1
Reliability-A#1
Nimbleness-A#1
Resistance-A#1
Flintiness-A#1
Advantage-A#1
Preciseness-A#1

Adamanti

Vengence-A#2
Endurance-A#2
Reliability-A#2
Nimbleness-A#2
Resistance-A#2
Flintiness-A#2
Advantage-A#2
Preciseness-A#2

Pompey The Great

Vengence-A#3
Endurance-A#3
Reliability-A#3
Nimbleness-A#3
Resistance-A#3
Flintiness-A#3
Advantage-A#3
Preciseness-A#3

BloodStorm

Vengence-A#4
Endurance-A#4
Reliability-A#4
Nimbleness-A#4
Resistance-A#4
Flintiness-A#4
Advantage-A#4
Preciseness-A#4

Shayd

Endurance-A#5
Reliability-A#5
Nimbleness-A#5
Resistance-A#5
Flintiness-A#5
Burliness-A#5
Messiness-A#5
Preciseness-A#5

General Alcibiades

Vengence-A#6
Endurance-A#6
Reliability-A#6
Nimbleness-A#6
Resistance-A#6
Flintiness-A#6
Advantage-A#6
Preciseness-A#6

(Form B#1,2,3,4,5,6)-(WORLD BOSSES FORMATION):

DNX

Vengence-B#1
Endurance-B#1
Reliability-B#1
Nimbleness-B#1
Resistance-B#1
Flintiness-B#1
Advantage-B#1
Preciseness-B#1

Lance

Vengence-B#2
Endurance-B#2
Reliability-B#2
Nimbleness-B#2
Resistance-B#2
Flintiness-B#2
Advantage-B#2
Preciseness-B#2

Destroyer Herja

Endurance-B#3
Reliability-B#3
Nimbleness-B#3
Resistance-B#3
Flintiness-B#3
Burliness-B#3
Messiness-B#3
Preciseness-B#3

Cianna

Vengence-B#4
Endurance-B#4
Reliability-B#4
Nimbleness-B#4
Resistance-B#4
Flintiness-B#4
Advantage-B#4
Preciseness-B#4

Shayd

Endurance-B#5
Reliability-B#5
Nimbleness-B#5
Resistance-B#5
Flintiness-B#5
Burliness-B#5
Messiness-B#5
Preciseness-B#5

Trucydides

Vengence-B#6
Endurance-B#6
Reliability-B#6
Nimbleness-B#6
Resistance-B#6
Flintiness-B#6
Advantage-B#6
Preciseness-B#6

Note: What i mean is, that's how the separation will work , for each formation and each hero there gonna be a new alphaB letter that are ( a,b,c,d,e,)etc..

" Save System can be like that ":

• Your Formation for World Bosses ready? there should be a SAVE button that saves ur formation as " A#1 " . (also you'll be able to name the formation tab)
• Your Formation for PVP ready? there should be a SAVE button that saves ur formation as " B#1 " (also you'll be able to name the formation tab)
  and etc...

Note#2 : About the Items same as this system works the same as runes system that you've saw above.

Any Questions about that? and what u think :)?

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 ,000.72 This idea

Awesome suggestion

+1 that's a good suggestion, kinda like what we do for Championship Warfare.
and please make something to make runefragments useable -_-

I like this. I'll pass it on to the devs. :)

This is similar:
http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...tion+formation

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Originally Posted by Dawnseeker

This sounds like a cool idea but incredibly difficult to implement. I'll pass it on nonetheless!

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Originally Posted by Dnx

What is Formation saver?

Here , whenever we want to do world bosses, we have to change runes and items and heros and etc.. to be ready for world bosses and to get the formation ready.

how about creating a system that allow us to save our formations for world bosses and PVP formations too so by 1 click on the formation we want the heros and items and runes switchs for World bosses formation that or pvp formation "we saved it " ,that would make things so easy and way comfortable.

Not sure if this idea has been suggested before.

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That would be really helpful and remove one part of the tedious activity

If a save formation can not be developed because of issues like how to identify the individual pieces of equipment and runes that may have been moved around since the formation was saved, at least give us a way to swap two heroes. By that I mean to take all of the equipment and runes on one hero and put them on another one and take all of the equipment and runes that were on that one and put them in the first one.

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Originally Posted by Dawnseeker

I like this. I'll pass it on to the devs. :)

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Now this is an excellent response- Thank you Dawn

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Originally Posted by Andy

If a save formation can not be developed because of issues like how to identify the individual pieces of equipment and runes that may have been moved around since the formation was saved, at least give us a way to swap two heroes. By that I mean to take all of the equipment and runes on one hero and put them on another one and take all of the equipment and runes that were on that one and put them in the first one.

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That can be solved easly , i can give a full idea about this. and definitely it will work 100% and perfectly with no issues, it might be hard to be developed but i believe tynon dev can do it.

i'll post tomorow , explaining a full idea about how the system would work if really Dawnseeker will passe it to devs so i would give this suggestion some of my time helping devs to improve the game.

Can't post it today because i have problems with my internet.

Dnx, I do not want to take away from your idea, and I think it would be wonderful to have it (I suggested the same thing on another tread a few months ago) but anything that will take a lot of resources to develop will not happen. They have too many other things to do. That is why I suggested the hero swap. That can be easily done. The interface can be like the one for Transfer, that is already developed.

Other MMO's have Equipment slots for PVP, PVE etc. So when you enter a certain type of combat, certain equipment is automatically used in that combat.

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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

Other MMO's have Equipment slots for PVP, PVE etc. So when you enter a certain type of combat, certain equipment is automatically used in that combat.

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The problem with that is that we have too many different formations that we need to manage. Right now I have PvP, Banish, getting Khan to join me, HE Pursuer, and I can not remeber the name of the Quest monster I am fighting. Some people may even have multiple HR formations and multiple Royal Arena formations that then need.

As far as i thought about creating this system wouldn't be so hard at all, im also a Beginner programmer and i know about those stuff, but its pretty hard to imagine some systems like that on tynon without working on it.

Also explaining about the idea without creating picture explaning how it would work its pretty useless and extremely hard to show the full idea to everyone.

Lets try to explain about it and giving a hint about this idea, how to separate runes and organize them

Runes -Example: (Form-A,B,C,D,E,F#1,2,3,4,5,6)

(Form A#1,2,3,4,5,6)-(PVP FORMATION):

DNX

Vengence-A#1
Endurance-A#1
Reliability-A#1
Nimbleness-A#1
Resistance-A#1
Flintiness-A#1
Advantage-A#1
Preciseness-A#1

Adamanti

Vengence-A#2
Endurance-A#2
Reliability-A#2
Nimbleness-A#2
Resistance-A#2
Flintiness-A#2
Advantage-A#2
Preciseness-A#2

Pompey The Great

Vengence-A#3
Endurance-A#3
Reliability-A#3
Nimbleness-A#3
Resistance-A#3
Flintiness-A#3
Advantage-A#3
Preciseness-A#3

BloodStorm

Vengence-A#4
Endurance-A#4
Reliability-A#4
Nimbleness-A#4
Resistance-A#4
Flintiness-A#4
Advantage-A#4
Preciseness-A#4

Shayd

Endurance-A#5
Reliability-A#5
Nimbleness-A#5
Resistance-A#5
Flintiness-A#5
Burliness-A#5
Messiness-A#5
Preciseness-A#5

General Alcibiades

Vengence-A#6
Endurance-A#6
Reliability-A#6
Nimbleness-A#6
Resistance-A#6
Flintiness-A#6
Advantage-A#6
Preciseness-A#6

(Form B#1,2,3,4,5,6)-(WORLD BOSSES FORMATION):

DNX

Vengence-B#1
Endurance-B#1
Reliability-B#1
Nimbleness-B#1
Resistance-B#1
Flintiness-B#1
Advantage-B#1
Preciseness-B#1

Lance

Vengence-B#2
Endurance-B#2
Reliability-B#2
Nimbleness-B#2
Resistance-B#2
Flintiness-B#2
Advantage-B#2
Preciseness-B#2

Destroyer Herja

Endurance-B#3
Reliability-B#3
Nimbleness-B#3
Resistance-B#3
Flintiness-B#3
Burliness-B#3
Messiness-B#3
Preciseness-B#3

Cianna

Vengence-B#4
Endurance-B#4
Reliability-B#4
Nimbleness-B#4
Resistance-B#4
Flintiness-B#4
Advantage-B#4
Preciseness-B#4

Shayd

Endurance-B#5
Reliability-B#5
Nimbleness-B#5
Resistance-B#5
Flintiness-B#5
Burliness-B#5
Messiness-B#5
Preciseness-B#5

Trucydides

Vengence-B#6
Endurance-B#6
Reliability-B#6
Nimbleness-B#6
Resistance-B#6
Flintiness-B#6
Advantage-B#6
Preciseness-B#6

Note: What i mean is, that's how the separation will work , for each formation and each hero there gonna be a new alphaB letter that are ( a,b,c,d,e,)etc..

" Save System can be like that ":

• Your Formation for World Bosses ready? there should be a SAVE button that saves ur formation as " A#1 " . (also you'll be able to name the formation tab)
• Your Formation for PVP ready? there should be a SAVE button that saves ur formation as " B#1 " (also you'll be able to name the formation tab)
  and etc...

Note#2 : About the Items same as this system works the same as runes system that you've saw above.

Any Questions about that? and what u think :)?

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Originally Posted by Dnx

What is Formation saver?

Here , whenever we want to do world bosses, we have to change runes and items and heros and etc.. to be ready for world bosses and to get the formation ready.

how about creating a system that allow us to save our formations for world bosses and PVP formations too so by 1 click on the formation we want the heros and items and runes switchs for World bosses formation that or pvp formation "we saved it " ,that would make things so easy and way comfortable.

Not sure if this idea has been suggested before.

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It has been suggested many times and I myself would rate this an an infinity good idea .... it is a truly awesome idea that Tynon wont implement (jinx please jinx)
It will just save so many players from the stress of doing it for heroics for cerb and baal for other players who constantly stick to 2 or 3 specific formations most of the time.
Please Dawn float away with this idea back to heaven and tell the Devs we need this ... idea rate: + infinity

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Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359

It has been suggested many times and I myself would rate this an an infinity good idea .... it is a truly awesome idea that Tynon wont implement (jinx please jinx)
It will just save so many players from the stress of doing it for heroics for cerb and baal for other players who constantly stick to 2 or 3 specific formations most of the time.
Please Dawn float away with this idea back to heaven and tell the Devs we need this ... idea rate: + infinity

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I've Improved my idea, and explained about how to make it organized and separated. Re-check Page 1 or the post above urs

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Originally Posted by Dnx

I've Improved my idea, and explained about how to make it organized and separated. Re-check Page 1 or the post above urs

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Yes I saw it read it carefully read it carefully again read it caredully again again ... unfortunately programming doesnt make a tad bit of any sense to my ears ... its more gibberish than gibberish
As along as I can play my game and play it in a happy mood - I AM HAPPY

Dnx, I am not going to quote your post because it is too big. Your method is cumbersome because because Runes of the same kind differ because of the level. In your example it is impossible to identify what rune level for Vengeance, for example, you want on each hero. If you add the level of the rune to the formation definition then the formation becomes invalid when the rune is upgraded. That means that you will have to update your stored formations whenever you upgrade a Rune. In most cases players do not move a rune from hero to hero for the different formations when a rune level is upgraded so this constant revising of the stored formations becomes an unnecessary chore.

The only way that I can see this working is that any Rune that is put on a hero gets an identifier and keeps that identifier as long as it exists. If two Runes with identifiers are merged then the one that 'survives' keeps its identifier and the identifier of the other one is 'retired' and not used again. If the one that 'survives' does not have an identifier, it will get one when it is first put on a Hero. Note that this identifier is internal to the game and does not have to be displayed.

This same method will work for Equipment. They get the identifier when it is bought and keep it for as long as it is not sold or abandoned.

The stored formation are defined by setting up the heroes in the formation you want, including equipment and runes and then save it. If you want to change a stored formation, then you recall it, change it the way you want it and then save it. You can save it so that it replaces the one that you recalled or you can save it as a new formation if it will be used for a different purpose and you still need the one you recalled.

Using this method you only have to update the stored formations when you what to change it. You do not have to know what the Rune or Equipment identifier is because you do not have to use it to define the formation. If a Rune or Equipment ceases to exist (Equipment is sold or abandoned or a rune is merged into another one) then any formation that uses that Equipment or rune is flagged as needing maintenance. When recalled the location where the missing Equipment or Rune was is now empty and highlighted in red for easy identification.

Andy, Read the method twice more and think about it carefully " No offence ", you'll understand it 100% if u get my idea, i wasn't explaning about the saving thing.
i've been explaining how the runes would be organized and separated without having any issues with anything.

Saving thing is too easy to create it , and i bet devs can do it without any idea about it.

Those A#1,2,3,4,5,6 and B#1,2,3,4,5,6 is the table of the formations, that's how all the runes gets organized for each heros u have before you save them.

If you using adamnti for example and his runes are , Vengence Lvl12-Endurance Lvl12-Reliability Lvl11- Nimbleness lvl10-Resistance lvl10-Flintiness lvl10-Advantage lvl10-Preciseness lvl 10,

Since your able to create limited formations so those A# and B# will work perfect for example ,
Adamanti ( PVP Form ): A#Vengence Lvl12(1) , A#Endurance Lvl11(2) , A#Reliability Lvl12 (3) and etc...so once u save it the A#1 is Vengence lvl12 & A#Endurance Lvl12 (2) for your adam, just think about it more and you'll get what i mean.

Lancelot Du Lac ( World bosses form ): B#Vengence Lvl12(1) , B#Endurance Lvl11(2) , B#Reliability Lvl12 (3)

That's how the runes gets organized with no issues.

Etc....

If this idea will get implemented , im sure there gonna be a button to re-edit the formations for example you upgraded ur rune from lvl 10 to 11 , u can save them again , just like the CW upload thingy works and same with others.

Yes, I want this system implemented! It's great. I hate switching out formations. I've stopped revenging people because I don't want to bother setting back my normal formation after banish events. I usually keep it all day until Rag and Lab time.

I was the originator of the original improvement suggestion to give us formation/equip/rune presets ref: http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...tion+formation

I am also a veteran software developer & IT/Dev manager and know what an average to good software development team can moderately-easily implement with low risk to the stability of the baseline system and game play.

What my idea was - was SEMI-AUTOMATION - the intelligence is kept in the user space and the tools are in the program space. In other words we simply define formations and equipment and runes and assign them a button with a label we define (e.g. like "Preset: Banish Event Configuration"). This is easy to do since pre-set configurations are based ONLY on what you have in inventory and hero and rune lists. If something changes (new hero or rune absorptions etc.) that affect a preset then all that needs to be done is a general flag "This Configuration May Need User Maintenance due to Changes in your equipment or runes". This makes the SW implementation pretty straight forward and does not require exotic management of inventory or sophisticated artificial intelligence rule based decision assist algorithms. A first step to implement this would be to simply give us a button to "snapshot current formation" to save in the client's data space and give him the ability to label that snapshot and select it. Give us about 6 or so snapshots and buttons to label and that's good enough.

If a pre-set configuration snapshot fails to load an item(s) due to it being deleted or upgraded etc. then just give us a simple red/yellow message warning: "something missing/changed in original snapshot - fix and resave configuration" but let it go ahead and complete the items it can resolve. That's nothing but a pure database look up of a formation, hero and rune table as we already have with just a duplication of instances of it for the 6 or so config options we want to keep. Not too hard at all to implement.

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Andy, Read the method twice more and think about it carefully " No offence ", you'll understand it 100% if u get my idea, i wasn't explaning about the saving thing.
i've been explaining how the runes would be organized and separated without having any issues with anything.

Saving thing is too easy to create it , and i bet devs can do it without any idea about it.

Those A#1,2,3,4,5,6 and B#1,2,3,4,5,6 is the table of the formations, that's how all the runes gets organized for each heros u have before you save them.

If you using adamnti for example and his runes are , Vengence Lvl12-Endurance Lvl12-Reliability Lvl11- Nimbleness lvl10-Resistance lvl10-Flintiness lvl10-Advantage lvl10-Preciseness lvl 10,

Since your able to create unlimited formations so those A# and B# will work perfect for example ,
Adamanti ( PVP Form ): A#Vengence Lvl12(1) , A#Endurance Lvl11(2) , A#Reliability Lvl12 (3) and etc...so once u save it the A#1 is Vengence lvl12 & A#Endurance Lvl12 (2) for your adam, just think about it more and you'll get what i mean.

Lancelot Du Lac ( World bosses form ): B#Vengence Lvl12(1) , B#Endurance Lvl11(2) , B#Reliability Lvl12 (3)

That's how the runes gets organized with no issues.

Etc....

If this idea will get implemented , im sure there gonna be a button to re-edit the formations for example you upgraded ur rune from lvl 10 to 11 , u can save them again , just like the CW upload thingy works and same with others.

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Using this method you still have to update all your formations whenever you upgrade a rune that is used in the formation. I also find it cumbersome to have to manually specify were each rune would be, including the runes that are stored in the heros that are not part of the formation. In my opinion it is more intuitive to set up the formation you want and then save it.

There needs to be a reasonable limit for the number of formations, otherwise it would become unmanageable. Using my method does not preclude having multiple formations.

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Originally Posted by Andy

Using this method you still have to update all your formations whenever you upgrade a rune that is used in the formation. I also find it cumbersome to have to manually specify were each rune would be, including the runes that are stored in the heros that are not part of the formation. In my opinion it is more intuitive to set up the formation you want and then save it.

There needs to be a reasonable limit for the number of formations, otherwise it would become unmanageable. Using my method does not preclude having multiple formations.

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We should be able to save either 5 or 10 different formations and it should be as simple as clicking a save formation button that would then save the placement of both equipment and runes on each hero. We should also having the option of naming saved formations either by custom or pre-approved labels.

Well your right about having a limit , but i cannot say anything about that since im not creating it and i can't test it in tynon, otherwise i would give u a confirmed informations about how this system will work, but yeah limiting formations on 6-10 is good and pretty much enough no need for more.

The only fly in the ointment is the silly implementation of the new "Inn" where heroes can be made inactive/active by moving in and out of inn. If a snapshot preconfig is selected and one of the hero's are in the silly inn (why did Tynon do this!!?) then managing hero list space becomes an issue since it won't be able to easily manage that without user intervention. Even so - load the hero's it can from the active set, equip and rune them up and give a warning "some hero(s) failed to load since they are in the inn - please fix".

This Suggestion isn't hard to be implemented they just need to put this idea in the brains and it will be implemented in no time.

Also RiverBummer is right 'HeroIN' , its really bad idea. its really annoying atleast allow us to have unlimited heros out of hero's in and the hero's we don't need we can put them IN. limiting them is really bad idea has been done.

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We should be able to save either 5 or 10 different formations and it should be as simple as clicking a save formation button that would then save the placement of both equipment and runes on each hero. We should also having the option of naming saved formations either by custom or pre-approved labels.

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And that is exactly what my method does. I do not think that 5 or even 10 are enough. These are some examples of what I would use them for.

• Fighting 2 or 3 Bosses to get plans but not all the ones in a room.
• fighting the next HR boss
• Trying to get several heroes in the Royal Arena that you have defeated to join you.
• Fighting the next Hero in the Royal Arena
• One for the Quest Boss.
• One or more for the Lab (may want different formations for different levels)
• One for Banish
• One for banish lat hit, where I move Calvin to the upper right to drain the morale.
• One for standard PvP (when you are not doing any of the above).

I agree completely that something would have to be done about the Hero's Inn. Having to manually move a hero out of the Inn to load the formation defeats the purpose of stored formations.

OK FOLKS

these are some great ideas.

BUt once again this is asking them to rework current content - i would like some of these ideas implemented but would prefer new content first.
NEW EVENTS
MORE EVENTS
NEW HR bosses
QUESTS beyond the searing desert

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Originally Posted by Andy

• Fighting 2 or 3 Bosses to get plans but not all the ones in a room.
• fighting the next HR boss
• Trying to get several heroes in the Royal Arena that you have defeated to join you.
• Fighting the next Hero in the Royal Arena
• One for the Quest Boss.
• One or more for the Lab (may want different formations for different levels)
• One for Banish
• One for banish lat hit, where I move Calvin to the upper right to drain the morale.
• One for standard PvP (when you are not doing any of the above).

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Yep , there is a lot of ideas that can be added to this suggestion. we just need developers to pay attention ofc with the help of Dawnseeker bringing them this thread so they can check it!

this suggestion can make things so comfortable in tynon.

-You forgot Ragnarok and Heaven Palace Andy :P

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OK FOLKS

these are some great ideas.

BUt once again this is asking them to rework current content - i would like some of these ideas implemented but would prefer new content first.
NEW EVENTS
MORE EVENTS
NEW HR bosses
QUESTS beyond the searing desert

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Right now I spend about 4 minutes 4 times a day to change formations for Banish, about 7 minutes two times a day for changing formations to attack Khan, anywhere from 4 to 6 minutes several times a day for the various HR bosses and the Quest boss, and 4 minutes and 4 minutes six times a day for the Lab run. The above times includes moving heroes in and out of the Inn, swapping Equipment and Runes and positioning in the formation. In addition I am vulnerable to revenges during the time that I am doing this.

New content only benefits the few top players that have hit the 'glass ceiling'. This will benefit all of the players. I am not saying that new content is not important, but it needs to be balanced with enhancements that benefit all, or at least most, of the players.

In fact the essence of this entire game is using formations/configurations based on your experience and insights to garner the best / optimum chance of prevailing in any combat objective. It is axiomatic and obvious that the game GUI should be centered on the user to let him invoke his formation/configurations in the best and most efficient manner to take the mechanical drudgery no-value-added mechanics out of play entirely for more enjoyment.

There is many things to do in tynon to make it become really interesting game more than it is now, the 1st thing is the game should look like really nice with the backgrounds in-game and quality of the backgrounds also the animation and the designs. those should be the 1st thing to focus on IMO when those are done then start improving the game to the better.

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Right now I spend about 4 minutes 4 times a day to change formations for Banish, about 7 minutes two times a day for changing formations to attack Khan, anywhere from 4 to 6 minutes several times a day for the various HR bosses and the Quest boss, and 4 minutes and 4 minutes six times a day for the Lab run. The above times includes moving heroes in and out of the Inn, swapping Equipment and Runes and positioning in the formation. In addition I am vulnerable to revenges during the time that I am doing this.

New content only benefits the few top players that have hit the 'glass ceiling'. This will benefit all of the players. I am not saying that new content is not important, but it needs to be balanced with enhancements that benefit all, or at least most, of the players.

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I think all players would benefit from new content such as new events, or even new heroes :P (sorry had to say it lol), This game is becoming a bit tedious.

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Originally Posted by Andy

Right now I spend about 4 minutes 4 times a day to change formations for Banish, about 7 minutes two times a day for changing formations to attack Khan, anywhere from 4 to 6 minutes several times a day for the various HR bosses and the Quest boss, and 4 minutes and 4 minutes six times a day for the Lab run. The above times includes moving heroes in and out of the Inn, swapping Equipment and Runes and positioning in the formation. In addition I am vulnerable to revenges during the time that I am doing this.

New content only benefits the few top players that have hit the 'glass ceiling'. This will benefit all of the players. I am not saying that new content is not important, but it needs to be balanced with enhancements that benefit all, or at least most, of the players.

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im not even in the top 30 on server 1, and I have hit the "glass ceiling", so it isn't just top players. The release of the new heroes went a long way to helping the smaller guys reach these bosses and beat them without powering up over 90 mil... and as far as it being balanced... I personally think its about time that something is ADDED instead of changed for the benefit of everyone, that changed gameplay for the "top players, as you called it" in a negative manner.

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Originally Posted by DrthCaedus

I think all players would benefit from new content such as new events, or even new heroes :P (sorry had to say it lol), This game is becoming a bit tedious.

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You are absolutely right. It is a matter of semantics. To me new content is extending the game beyond it's current limits. Adding new events or heroes is new features.

Well..lets hope they implement this idea and few move events, heros. The game is becoming boring after lady is done.. sometimes before lady..

I would love it! A formation saver would be great :)

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Originally Posted by Andy

You are absolutely right. It is a matter of semantics. To me new content is extending the game beyond it's current limits. Adding new events or heroes is new features.

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Yeah we need new events and new heros definitely, its really becoming boring after Guildwar...i suggested an idea about having 4 WB in different time zone more benifits and more resourses and it wouldn't be bad idea either imo.