What a JOKE Championship Warfare has turned out to be.

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Originally Posted by andreasl187_6103403

i think throwing a game that people can bet on is wrong, i see it all the time on eu servers aswell when some people in final 8 throws a couple rounds (probably to tell guild/friends to bet on the other for tickets), if it wasnt for the betting part i would say yue was just acting nice to a friend, but since theres bets its screwing alot of people.

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Screwing people out of what? free extra benefits in the game that they aren't entitled to at all?

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Originally Posted by DrthCaedus

Screwing people out of what? free extra benefits in the game that they aren't entitled to at all?

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By that logic, the guildmates who earned the free extra benefits (as in, the extra tickets in the bet) due to match-fixing are even less entitled to them.

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Originally Posted by IraTheSquire_1457591

By that logic, the guildmates who earned the free extra benefits (as in, the extra tickets in the bet) due to match-fixing are even less entitled to them.

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and? I never said they were lol, and can you be less entitled than not-entitled?

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Originally Posted by DrthCaedus

and? I never said they were lol, and can you be less entitled than not-entitled?

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lol. By that I mean they have even less reason/makes less sense to be entitled. :P

But you know what I mean, "screwing" doesn't not necessarily mean "taking something of a player" but also "giving an unfair advantage to another player". And the "unfair advantage" here is "I know a guy who's good enough to manipulate the matches. So I'm going to exploit that so that I can get more tickets than I would otherwise."

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Originally Posted by shereemacgillivray_303726

Seriously all you guys want to take away the only thing the big players have left to play tynon for!!!


I'm sure that if Yue come up against Soulight in final he would have put everything into it. As it was he ended up fighting a guild mate for second time so decided to help him out (not against the rules) and very selfless of Yue.
If you want to make top 8 work harder be smarter stop whining about everything and concentrate on your own account. There is no sport or game in this world where the top people have to sit out because the rest are complaining that they win to much.
A suggestion why doesn't tynon just drop all rewards from CW then people can play for what it was intended abit of fun :) or as alot have suggested add a seeding system so the best always make it to final which is the way it should be otherwise whats the point in a Championship?

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Why does every comment in this thread is assumed to be about Yue? Give the poor lady a break now no one is on a witch hunt OK? :) My one and only concern from the beginning was rigging going to be commonplace and what impact was it going to have on future Championship Warfare. Yue and Nixon were just the unlucky examples, if it had been other competitors in a similar situation their final would've been discussed here I'm sure.

My comment regarding if you don't want to win why enter was really aimed generally, just because the original poster mentioned Yue doesn't mean I meant her and her alone.

Now that's cleared moving to your other comment. As I said earlier personally CWF isn't something I'm ever win and I'm more than OK with it, in fact I'm happier not to win it. I personally have more fun in the trying than the winning. Heck I'm not a big spender on this game and have no where near the wallet size to even compete. I'm certainly not whining, I don't care! It's just a few are concerned that the same people seem to be winning and trying to see if there are other ways to balance it out. Doesn't mean that Tynon will force the Top 8 to sit out the next round, in fact the vibes from Dawn are clearly saying this is very unlikely to occur.

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Originally Posted by DrthCaedus

Screwing people out of what? free extra benefits in the game that they aren't entitled to at all?

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it can be free but it can cost gems, a bet is a bet and when betting on anything you take a calculated risk but atleast imo there needs to be a degree of trust that the games are played out fair or people wouldnt bet, im not talking about yue but about it in general, i think giving guild/friends a chance to catch up is a good thing but in this case where people bet the system is flawed.

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

It's just a few are concerned that the same people seem to be winning and trying to see if there are other ways to balance it out. Doesn't mean that Tynon will force the Top 8 to sit out the next round, in fact the vibes from Dawn are clearly saying this is very unlikely to occur.

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Well, actually, I'm not even sure if "letting other players win" is the solution to the problem, especially the problem is pretty much a system exploit, just one with a social aspect (knowing the right people).

I would suggest some sort of system change, like not allowing formations to have less than maximum number of possible heroes or limits on which heroes to switch out, or even as simple as players having to finalise their formation before the betting ends so that players cannot take out all heroes except for main right when the betting ends, or not allow changes to formations 30 minutes before and during the CWS (you got a ''day'' to muck around your formation between each day of CWS. More than enough time).

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Heck I'm not a big spender on this game and have no where near the wallet size to even compete.

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I think CW has been very good in this regard. There's only a handful of people that have the wallets to get into top 8, but the tickets have given the smaller spenders access to stuff that previously required a lot of gems to acquire. And betting on matches to get these tickets keep the rest of the players involved and for the most part, everyone has pretty close to equal access to the tickets (sure, you are going to win more tickets by getting further in the elimination rounds, but not by too much more)

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Originally Posted by Rocco

I think CW has been very good in this regard. There's only a handful of people that have the wallets to get into top 8, but the tickets have given the smaller spenders access to stuff that previously required a lot of gems to acquire. And betting on matches to get these tickets keep the rest of the players involved and for the most part, everyone has pretty close to equal access to the tickets (sure, you are going to win more tickets by getting further in the elimination rounds, but not by too much more)

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I would agree with this, it's helped me massively with my starring. The tickets are and will always remain one of the best bits.

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Originally Posted by IraTheSquire_1457591

Well, actually, I'm not even sure if "letting other players win" is the solution to the problem, especially the problem is pretty much a system exploit, just one with a social aspect (knowing the right people).

I would suggest some sort of system change, like not allowing formations to have less than maximum number of possible heroes or limits on which heroes to switch out, or even as simple as players having to finalise their formation before the betting ends so that players cannot take out all heroes except for main right when the betting ends, or not allow changes to formations 30 minutes before and during the CWS (you got a ''day'' to muck around your formation between each day of CWS. More than enough time).

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The problem is no more a system exploit that setting up the formations for HP. What makes this different is the betting. If the player lets the Guildmate win, in my opinion, it is not an exploit. Yes the people that placed bets, specially the ones that used Gems to increase the bets, have a good reason not to be happy with the players actions but that does not make it an exploit.

In the other hand, if it was set up so that the player's friends or guild mates wold know ahead of time and bet on the fight knowing the the obvious winner would loose, then it is an exploit.