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I was hoping this was going to be a way to save time spinning runes. I only see we can do 8 at a time, and we don't get fragment by doing this. Is it possible for the tynon team to pass along info that saves some time doing this, maybe buying as many as we like and add some fragments to it?
Also we can't combine them all with 1 click.. we have to move them on each others... allow us to combine them all once we buy em..
True DNX, my only prob is we don't get the fragments, to me I'll just do it the old way, so nothing is fixed to me. I would like to say the stacking feature in bank is nice, one up for that.
Well atleast they have done something that was really needed in " RUNES " , upequip runes button is nice..Well i don't know much about frag system..but i don't really mind with that, Synergy is probably made for fast help to lvl up runes not for luck runes-Frags.
To get a lvl 11 to lvl 12 rune now costs more with Synergia v. doing it the old fashion way. Plus you get no fragments. I am not sure if this was intended this way, or the cost for the Synergia is wrong. Based on the fact you can roll a lvl 11 - 12 with around 255mil coins, and now with Synergia, I spent close to 350 mil coins and no framents. It should at least be the same price no?
you can combine them with 1 click if you use another rune to combine them on (like a green or a blue).
also you can get up to 20 at once.. it all depend on how much room you got for runes ;-)
You need to have 1 rune to combine ti into something.
20 Synergia will not combine without a rune in one of the slots.
In my personal opinion, that is the price that you have to pay for the convenience of doing it faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251
Think you miscounted.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251
491250 exp from 11-12
491250/1200=410 synergia
410*600000=2.46m coins
I see the point, however after Im finished lvl'n a rune, Im done with the game for the day, takes way to long, plus no fragments this new way. I think players are getting tired of the nickel and diming of this game. Every point players have made to improve the game are "fixed" with a twist to get an extra $5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
To have fixed the rune temple while spinning add more rows, that simple, get the players out of the rune temple before they fall asleep so they can build heroes, finish quests, spend money, etc. but every fix or patch irritates players with these little nickel/dime schemes. Its getting old.
410*600000=2.46m??? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
yeah ok decimal points are not my friend todayQuote:
Originally Posted by cnn1_7545681
410*600000=246m
OK tip; if you have empty rune slots, use max for synergy, then move your rune to 1 slot and merge then hit combine all. That way you don't lose the 1 from having your rune in a slot 1st. (probably already figured this out) lol but put here anyway
Edit: apparently it has a max you can do. I think it was 10 times max, then stopped for me. Still that was much faster than the old way, got an 11 to nearly a 12. (in minutes, not hours) yay :D
I agree and that doesnt really bother me, since my mind was starting to become Zomiefied in rune temple making lvl11 and 12 runes. But cant they let us know whiether we will be needing "frags" later on or are they dead? If they are indeed "dead" then I will use Synergia eveytime , some info on this would be great....Dawn?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
I guess i should add that I have about 2000 frags stacked atm, and dont need anymore doubles , do I keep doing runes the old way and keep stacking frags or do it the new way and regain some sort of sanity ......will we need frags later on for new types of runes is what i want to know.
600000 coins to buy synergia are tynon absolutely mad in the head this is ridiculous
What happens to some of the people who dont have ridiculous shyzer loads of coins
C'mon really?
Please make this like 300 or 400k coins at the very least
Havent heard anything so ridiculous since my mother once told me I had a better chance of falling pregnant than her going on a camping trip with me
OMG.
Look i you havent collected 2400 total frags since you started. Then you probably want to spin runes the old way until you have to collect frags. Otherwise just buy synergia for now. If youonly have a few hundred thousand coins or less it doesnt take long to spin the coins. I can spin 1m coins a minute on average. So if you dont have 600k saved up its just about as fast to spin as it is to buy synergia. If your trying to level runes above 10 synergia is a million times faster and gives you a very good return for investment.
I swear sometimes people complain over nothing
Hmm, Matt, I think you are right. But did you mean 246mil coins? not 2.46mil?Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
Thanks. So all you lose is the fragments... in which case.. is a bit of them at this level.
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Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
why even 300k or so I think even that a lot it should be for 100 coin you get 0.2xp
I do not get rid of anything anymore if I can help it. I sold 10 Calvin and 8 Alexa cards one week before the patched that allowed transfers. There has been a lot of requests for new runes, like a new combo rune for Mages that combines Magic Attack and Hit Rating. I would not be surprised if something like that is offered in the future. Please note the disclaimer at the bottom of the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by hjam_8879649
Forgot to mention, if you do not roll runes, you will not get any yellow runes... which means you now have to spend the fragments to buy them... which should mean, we should get proper fragments as we use Synergia.
Well, in my mind you just need to compromise. Synergia is there for those who want to use it. If you are wanting to level up fast, and don't care about yellows or frags, it's a very fast way to go. If you want to spend time there stacking frags, that you can do. I like it. I am thankful they did answer our call for a faster way to do runes. I personally will use both ways. I agree that we never know when we might need those frags, and the yellows can just be combined. This is less useful for the lower players who have not completed all their divine runes, but there for us to use or not. And I LOVE the new unequip!!! That is also a time saver!!
Its expensive and has cons because if you had it the way you wanted it, there'd be no reason for vip 6 with auto runes. ya'll just like bitchin that its not in your favor. if it was such a easy thing to do and the top players got even higher with maxed out runes you'd bitch about that too. i'm not a fan of everything tynon does but ya just can't please everybody.
As a test, I checked how much experience I could get for 12,000K coins with the synergia rune.
I could get 24K experience using synergia.
Using the normal features, I got 26K experience and about 10 frags. The difference in experience isn't huge in my opinion. However, if you still need frags, this feature isn't useful at all.
well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisChief
You can still do it the old way if you like it better. There's no "scheme" here. And the item stacking change and Unequip All Rune change should help you no matter what you do in the Rune Temple.Quote:
Originally Posted by cnn1_7545681
This is obviously for high level players with a lot of runes to roll to lvl 12. You lose out on fragments and yellow runes... but you save like an hour or two for each lvl 12 rune you need to roll.
Time > fragments and runes when you have thousands of fragments just sitting there already.
I find calculations here a bit off.
100m coins translates to 160k xp.
It has always been 1 : 1.6 from my own experience.
Synergia gives better odds at 1 : 2
This comes at a compromise of no random drops in the rune temple, at the advantage of speed.
A good tradeoff either way imho.
You gain more xp using Synergia than using the rune temple
Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
26k xp and 10 frags for 12,000k coins?
Repeat that 10 times and I'll quit the game if you still get the same results.
1.6 doesnt seem bad but its always been for me and many others about 1m coins for 2k exp so a 1:2 which is what synergia is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
I just ran the same test again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
Got 7 frags and 23K experience.
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Originally Posted by ChickenWing
No Offense but i tried to prove Herby wrong once and i tried for 3 weeks and my total calculations have been par with what he said, i spend 3.4 Mil coins per fragment and i get 18 - 19k exp on average from 10 mil coins. I tested this with over 1 Bil coins. The Synergia rate of experience is a tad higher than what i get from regular rune temple. Saves me time , Save me pain in the fingers , saves me the frustration of some times not getting a gold rune for 30 - 40 mil coins spent. I say this Synergia is a big advantage. :)
The problem with the rune temple patch is that it is a half measure. Sure, super rich people with 5000 fragments can get a bunch of synergia and save lots of time leveling their runes. But for everyone else still needs the frags, and for them, the time consuming grind of the rune temple has not been fixed.
The rune temple grind should be fixed for all, not just the 1%.
I agree with perawind. The patch is a step in the right direction, but more remains to be done. However, as someone said earlier, there has to be a point in buying the "auto-merge" feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by perawind_8762856
Herby is usually SPOT ON with most of his calculations.Quote:
Originally Posted by WickeD
But all BSing aside me and most people on server 1 get 2k exp per 1m coins and this is tested over TRILLIONS of coins
You know, I understand the upset if Tynon made it so the only way to level runes is by using the synergy rune, but they didn't, they made it an option because allot of people where asking that it be available to buy with coins. Well, I want to say thank you, now I have the choice to use it if I want to, or I can choose to do it the old way, which is more than I had before the patch.
Thank You
All those people who have 5k fragments had to pay their dues to roll it the old fashion way to get what they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by perawind_8762856
It seems no matter what Tynon does to improve the game, there are always those that complain.
This is a step in the right direction (period). End of discussion. Please close this useless thread.
Thanks
I've tested 1 : 1.6 over a long span of time involving a lot of coins.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
Maybe the RNG in the RT is different in server 1 from my server, who knows.
That's why I mentioned that 1 : 1.6 is my personal experience.
Also I hate to call you on this, but at 2:1, it takes 500m coins to make 1 level 12 rune from scratch.
I really don't think server 1 has 2000 level 12 runes. And if ever it had, that would only constitute 1 trillion coins.
On the other hand... the chickenwing guy said that...
2 times does not make a sampling.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
Like I mentioned, try it 10 times and tell us the results.
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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856
I don't think there's anyone in Tynon with 5,000 frags yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinz1111_6095251
And if ever there is, i'm positive they have all runes to level 12 already.
So they wouldn't benefit from Synergy anyway.
I agree with skinz. No matter how you look at it (Except chickenwing's absolutely lucky streak), Synergy is a benefit if you want it to be.
Lvl 11 Vengence to a lvl 12 Vengence in 3 mins....damn what will I do with all my spare time now. Took 240 mill coins I belive or there abouts.
There are lots of things you could do...Quote:
Originally Posted by hjam_8879649
-Click on the Philosopher's Stone every hour and try to catch all the coins
-Try to get your arena battles quest to over a million
-Practice fighting the top player in your server hundreds of times and see what your best round is
-Rant on the forums...