Sanctification Process is STILL BROKEN!

Either the randomizer is really screwed up or the odds calculator is severely broken! When a card states that it has a 20% probability of success it shouldn’t take over 20 attempts to succeed! That’s not 20% that’s 5% at best. This isnt a onetime issue either. I have on numerous occasions been unable to get my Adamanti card to sanctify. I have tried over 20 times and it fails every time yet it claims to have a 22% chance of success?? Meanwhile my Rhize card has a 15% success rate and that one works about 1 in 8 tries or so. Still not 15% but better than the 1 in 20+ I get on Adamanti! I have reported this to tynon several times but they claim there is no issue. At 100 gems an attempt I can understand why they don't want to look into it but it makes game play very frustrating!

STACK YOU CARDS.

WIth 20 cards depending on your current saint level thast at least 4 successes maybe 6 or 8

Chances are about 11% that it fails 10 times in a row at 20%. It's pretty high if you ask me. Why don't you just use several cards to bring that % up?

Dave i just posted about this earlier xD Same thing has been happening to me xD maybe its just us? haha

Any number posted (20%) is just a number, nobody really knows how Tynon has set this up. And seeing as how Tynon has shown that their greed is more important then player satisfaction, draw your own conclusions.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

STACK YOU CARDS.

WIth 20 cards depending on your current saint level thast at least 4 successes maybe 6 or 8

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exacly what matt said you can either try 5 times and fail every time and whine about it or you can stack the 5 to 100% and then you wont have to whine becuase youl have a saint

Sanc process isn't broken.

The TS just doesn't know how to use it yet.

If you are going to make me use 20 cards then why not just be up front and make the sainting cost 20 freakin cards? Why make me believe there is a 20% chance when there isn't? Same issue with stars. If you are going to make me use 90 stars before one set sticks then why not make that obvious from the beginning? Just tell me what I need to buy to upgrade my useless toons.

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Originally Posted by TrollsWarrior_4733092

If you are going to make me use 20 cards then why not just be up front and make the sainting cost 20 freakin cards? Why make me believe there is a 20% chance when there isn't? Same issue with stars. If you are going to make me use 90 stars before one set sticks then why not make that obvious from the beginning? Just tell me what I need to buy to upgrade my useless toons.

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This raises a point many have said before. Instead of having Chances just make it x amount to go from one level to the next and have the cost go up each level. I would rather it say 100 stars to go from 8 to 9 personally.

But it is what it is.

Saints have fail and success rates that are predetermined.

How can it be a glitch if its pre loaded in to the browser?

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Originally Posted by Herby

PR, i think you should delete your post, and matt as well please.


PR, you should know we don't want glitches and exploits posted in here.


I tried doing so before, but always got the slap on the hand by Andy or Morgan.


I've reported the look ahead glitch countless of times already.

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Yea i was trying to be helpful. But this look ahead has been out now since as long as I can remember.

They need to fix it. I hope they do. It is ruining the game. I wish I knew about it long ago, but by the time I found out about it was already well known.

But it is predetermined, so regardless, it does not change the outcome and you can only stack cards to jump ahead or trigger saints between the fails when using 1 card at a time.

predetermined equals rigged does it not? why don't the buffoons at tynon just put a set price on sainting instead of trying to fool the players into thinking they might get lucky. and why Herby would you want to delete posts that are informative and truthful? Is it that you condone this sneaky conniving trickery? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622

predetermined equals rigged does it not? why don't the buffoons at tynon just put a set price on sainting instead of trying to fool the players into thinking they might get lucky. and why Herby would you want to delete posts that are informative and truthful? Is it that you condone this sneaky conniving trickery? Just curious.

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I'm growing tired of people that keep whining because it's too hard or because they think it's unfair.

Why put a price on it? It works completely fine AS IS and most people understand that and don't waste bandwidth complaining on the forums about it. 4 Months ago if you wanted to go to Archangel I from Angel IV you'd most likely run into a situation where 10-20 cards would fail IN A ROW. The stacking feature gave us the ability to get passed that by stacking the percentages.
Just another noob complaining about how hard the "dumbed down" and noobified Saint system is.

Hmmm an exploit you say. Isn't that exactly what tynon is doing to the players?

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Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622

predetermined equals rigged does it not? why don't the buffoons at tynon just put a set price on sainting instead of trying to fool the players into thinking they might get lucky. and why Herby would you want to delete posts that are informative and truthful? Is it that you condone this sneaky conniving trickery? Just curious.

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Predetermined does not equal rigged.
For example, if all the lottery drawings for an entire year were done ahead of time but the results would be kept secret until the day that the drawing was supposed to happen, would the lottery be rigged? No. It does not make a difference when the drawing happened as long as it is not revealed until the correct moment.

That is what the game does. It calculates the order of success ahead of time using the odds and stores it. It then reveals the results one at a time as you use the cards.

I disagree, when the chance of sainting is the same for everyone then the element of luck is not involved. Tynon has set a price on the saintings they just do not want the players to know the price. I do not buy a car unless I know the full price. This includes taxes, license, shipping and what ever other fees may be attached. I make the dealer put in writing the final price and then determine if I am willing to pay it. What tynon has done is what they always do, make it look like chance when it is not. Sainting is no different then the predetermined rigged tavern.

You are assuming that the failure sequence is the same for every one based on the hero, and I am not sure that is the case. It is really easy to prove. All it takes is for some players to keep track of the success/failure sequence for some heroes and compare them. I will start doing that and ask some of my Guild mated to do it too.

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Originally Posted by Deucalion

I'm growing tired of people that keep whining because it's too hard or because they think it's unfair.

Why put a price on it? It works completely fine AS IS and most people understand that and don't waste bandwidth complaining on the forums about it. 4 Months ago if you wanted to go to Archangel I from Angel IV you'd most likely run into a situation where 10-20 cards would fail IN A ROW. The stacking feature gave us the ability to get passed that by stacking the percentages.
Just another noob complaining about how hard the "dumbed down" and noobified Saint system is.

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Lol,Lets get real here, you know nothing about me or how long I have played so calling me a noob is just your infantile way of name calling and flaming. I also do not see any complaining in my post so you force me to assume that you do not comprehend the English language. I just stated what I believe, Andy is going to try and find out one way or the other. Next time you get bugs in your britches, take a deep breath, count to ten and just fade out of site. After all you are wasting bandwidth with your ludicrous post.

Everyone is complaining of rigging, the game isn't 'rigged' unless we're talking about sailing.

The server generates a RNG once you recruit, reset or transfer a hero so that the sancts and stars are generated to 'upgrade' in a certain sequence. This is the 'predetermined' bit. No one has personally looked at your account and 'fixed' it in a way so they can mess with your head.

The whole thing is random, which is the polar opposite to 'rigged' which would indicate that an outside influence has given an advantage or disadvantage over one player.

The second thing which is starting to irk me in this thread is the attitude made to each other. Can I point out that respect for one another and each others opinions is in the forum rules and you wouldn't want me to go all Moderator on you...or would you?

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Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622

I disagree, when the chance of sainting is the same for everyone then the element of luck is not involved. Tynon has set a price on the saintings they just do not want the players to know the price. I do not buy a car unless I know the full price. This includes taxes, license, shipping and what ever other fees may be attached. I make the dealer put in writing the final price and then determine if I am willing to pay it. What tynon has done is what they always do, make it look like chance when it is not. Sainting is no different then the predetermined rigged tavern.

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Your wrong, and misunderstand the tavern system completely, and since you "Do not buy unless you know the full price", I'd say your done playing Tynon completely. Good luck to you.

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Originally Posted by Moonshadeaux_3172622

Lol,Lets get real here, you know nothing about me or how long I have played so calling me a noob is just your infantile way of name calling and flaming. I also do not see any complaining in my post so you force me to assume that you do not comprehend the English language. I just stated what I believe, Andy is going to try and find out one way or the other. Next time you get bugs in your britches, take a deep breath, count to ten and just fade out of site. After all you are wasting bandwidth with your ludicrous post.

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My apologies for wasting more bandwidth.