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Seems Tynon only wants to cater to non paying whinners who have nothing better to do then come on these forums to whine and cry about this or that being "unfair" , to hell with the players who have built this game up with actual money. Well I have had enough and this will be my last week playing this game, so well done all you "non coiners" and the "I have not spent a dime on this game and proud of it" type whiners you have won, I hope it feels good , enjoy it while it lasts.
Randulf
I know how you feel Randulf , been there but lately the changes that the game brought upon i am not happy about those. wish they do some thing before they lose their major Paying player base.
Wait until the poll closes on March 28 Randulf.
We might see a reply or changes by then.
True, i stopped the large spending when the rules started changing, weird they let people who only play the game that only chat with others dictate decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by hjam_8879649
I can't agree with you more. Best of luck, I hope you find a good game if you look for another. I'm right behind ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by hjam_8879649
Why should we suffer through this patch when they could have tested it on their BETA SERVER and got feedback? Personally I am going to try and wait out for another week, but I'm not sure I have the energy. After all, if this isn't the final straw then something else will be...they are not utilizing their beta server as they should. If I wanted to have patches dropped on me without warning, I would be playing BETA and not a live server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
We get more toddler tantrums here than an upper-class Day Care center
PS-- Patience is a virtue.
CWF will be changing before the next one reopens (It has to). It will not remain in its present form.
Hang in there.
Non paying players should not influence this game to such an extent where paying players are penalized. This is unfair and if non paying customers want to win, they can go play solitaire.
Herby, why is your mail box always full. I cant send you anything. Please clean out your inbox and make room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
I stopped playing on there because they stopped putting the patches on there beforehand. I'm thinking that if they aren't going to use it, that they should think about shutting it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate_1360826
The issue with the non-production pre-patch server, is that it gives those selected players an advantage of knowing what will be released, thus allowing them to adjust and make changes before others do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
They need to shut the pre-patch server down and open open it for "beta" of major release of game progression (only). Not for use of testing the patch. That should be done internally.
anyone can join the beta server, it's not exclusive to "selected players" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
Cuddles your attitude towards gaming is highly commendable and a pleasure to see. However, remember humility is a virtue too and it would make my day to more of it here :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020
I think you are the only one who thinks the changes brought in for CWF need adjustment. Most people's gripes are with the GW, so I wouldn't count your chickens that they will change CWF before they change GW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
True. Just type in beta.tynon.com in your browser address bar and knock yourselves out.Quote:
Originally Posted by koja6049
I respect you are a forum moderator, but please do not presume you know more as a result. I am not the only that disagrees with the CWF changes. It applies to all high VIP - cash paying customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
CWF and GWF both needs to be readjusted, and I am hopeful they will be changed before the next CWF and similar time for GW changes as well.
So far I have not been wrong about any of the changes we have had. I think you need to understand why this is the case.
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Originally Posted by Riot
In any F2P game it is the non-paying customers that are the most essential to longevity. Most non-paying customers will eventually spend a little as they invest more time and energy into the game. they will want a little extra boost and fun, however, if you're going to keep them around long enough to spend money then the game needs to feel competitive. they must feel like they can compete with most. It has been shown time and time again that the Uber-coiners do not finance games. it is the low-mediums that provide the bulk of game profits and hence they are the ones that need to be catered to. PR and Exec could both leave the game today and tynon would not notice, or probably care that much. If the players that typically spend 30-200 a month start to leave, however, they will begin to notice quickly and probably work to correct whatever is causing their exodus. Non-paying customers increase revenue far more than players like PR, Exec, Bubba, etc. do because they bring far more players and usually end up spending money after a while for far greater effect than the uber-coiners. Begin to recognize PR that tynon for the most part could care less what you particularly want. they are a business and they will cater to the crowd that will continue to finance them far more than you could dream of spending.
I appreciate you have paid a lot into this game but you need to stop presuming it's all about high-VIPs. CWF has become a solely elitist event and therefore has a lesser impact on the player base than GWs which effect everyone. So using logic and the amount of opinions given about the new GW it would make sense Tynon will concentrate on getting that right (if they ever do) before they make any more adjustments to CWF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
Nothing wrong with either change...
haha touché :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
Non-paying customers increase revenue far more than players like PR, Exec, Bubba, etc. do because they bring far more players and usually end up spending money after a while for far greater effect than the uber-coiners.
Huh? Non-paying customers never increase revenue, or they wouldn't be non-paying customers. Actually, leave me out of this discussion. I think both GW and CW should be more competitive. In these kind of games there are those that spend time, those that spend money, or some piece of both. I am on server 2, and have spent some coins, but not like the some of the later folks. My point on the inequity is that when u decide to spend resources be it time or $ to upgrade this or that based on what the game is and then Tynon changes the game so that what you paid for with your time or $ is not worth as much- it is unfair. I appreciate the need for competitive conflict -this game has always lacked that. As to CW - not really Championship Warfare anymore, though riot should win for several more sessions. It's more like let's share the wealth. So many folks believe that the benefits folks get for spending $ should be less - an age old tale - something for nothing. Folks are concerned about the great rewards for winning and many ask for them at lower levels. The rewards are free, anything is nice, why not make them less.
In summary - we need more competitive GW and CW. It is unethical and unfair to take things away that folks have paid with their time or $.
Pretty incoherent post, I don't think you know what competitive meansQuote:
Originally Posted by bubbaslabevony_2392091
This is an interesting thread.
I can already see the few haters coming at me, but W/E so here goes.
This is very true. Don't be changing the rules like they did in Sochi women's figure skating where they swap the 2 judges for their home town Russian judges giving it away to a noob skater underserving of the gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbaslabevony_2392091
Actually it is all about high paying VIP's and low paying VIP's and any paying VIP's. If you don't pay, you have "no right" to complain and should enjoy the game as it unfolds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
Look at the Asia server where you have low % of paying customers. Consolidation central. Let them go at each other and God sort them out.. attitude. Save money. Cut down on them servers to save electricity cost.
Without the paying customers, the developers would not have the hardware nor the human capital to do further development work and they would have to close it down and make another rip off of the same game with a new twist. Do they really want to do that forever? Let's create something good and to do that, they need "$"
Why do you think a game dies... it is because of free loading players who bitch and complain then ultimately ruin the game. What this game should do is weed them all out and put in $5 subscription based service and give all of those VIP's the subscription credit that matches what they already paid. After that, they can impose a fee on them too. Do away with buying any gems and make everything in game tradable. That will create a capitalistic system and the game will flourish.
Give all new players 3 months of free membership to hook them in. Put in "noobicized" events for lowbies to have fun and feel big about their characters. Put in bigger servers and consolidate all players on it per region.
Why is that boo... because you stopped spending? Last I saw posted you were not going to spend anymore into this game. Sure so if you don't spend, this is great for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBooMan
I can see I am making a lot of friends here. But some things needs to be called out. What is red is red.
Your link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HandicappingQuote:
Originally Posted by koja6049
Are you a handicap? Do you need a handicap sticker on your car windshield?
You can't walk straight? Get a cane and have a nice day.
A subscription model, in game economy, a trade system - these all sound great. Also, let's add an auction house and client software. For the final, original touch let's call it "World of Tynon".Quote:
Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937
You read my mind grasshopper.Quote:
Originally Posted by charles.molnar_8339810
I call Horde.Quote:
Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937
I like it. Makes more sense than the direction this is going. Right on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937
First...I thought you were going to quit posting your antagonistic garbage. Second...do you have any idea of how games like this work? I'm beginning to think you don't. The game you describe is a completely different system that would require millions in investment and development, and a complete reworking of Ucool's business and gaming model. Quit coming up with ideas like this because they do nothing to further the conversation as they will never happen, ever. If you had read my previous post non-paying customers bring in most revenue because they bring in more players and almost always begin to spend after a time. People like exec and PR may spend 10-20k on a game like this (good for them) but the 2,000 players who spend 30-100 a month bring in 10x that much and more. Even if players like PR could afford to put out 10-20k a month they couldn't compete with that type of income. The opinion of heavy coiners like that simply doesn't matter nearly as much as the overall player base who really pays for the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by explorertynon103_3174937
YO!Quote:
Originally Posted by DrthCaedus
Take a chill pill homie.
You're the one that is antagonistic. Stop bringing up and name dropping man. You are the one with no clue. Many people would disagree with me, but w/e.
The whole point is. If you don't spend the money S T F U. And the people who do spend a lot of money who are a lot more them those 2... who spend in multiple thousands ... deserve to not get RIPPED OFF! You get that??? Maybe you don't. Let me repeat for you one more time.... since you are a bit too dense at times.
PEOPLE WHO spend a lot of money or any amount of money do not deserve to get ripped off with game altering changes and no notice.
Can you dig it.... I know and hope you can grasshopper#2.
Ok first.
Pulling explorer from the ass of PR and Exec.
Secondly I coin where I see I need to. Which is my business and I have put enough into this game to have my say without some smart ass calling me out on it.
It seems quite apparent that while some big guns like the competition. Others don't which is fine. But you can't have it one way got one another way got 100001.
I see nothing wrong with GW, maybe some factor about how many opponents you have should come into it on servers out side of 10.
CWF is actually giving people what they have asked for without taking away from the bigger guys.
This thread made a lot more sense reading half of it as sarcasm. Best part was about how paying players somehow bought the right to complain. People who put money into the game were buying progress for their toon... not partial ownership of the company.
To those who want to play a completely rebuilt game... go make or find a new game.
^This, completely this.Quote:
Originally Posted by g346007_1906957
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Originally Posted by DaBooMan
Stop dropping names. I have no affinity to either of those guys. I just want all this "abrupt, unannounced, unbalanced, one sides" nonsense to stop.
Make changes that is not so extreme. Make changes that are more in line of preserving fairness to all parties.
There is a reason why so many are up in arms about the CWF and GW changes. And those are not just a few at the top.
Sure it is easy to screw a few elites for the greater good of the rest of the whining bunches. But as bubba pointed out very clearly, they took away things and changed things that negates the investments made by many people. That in itself is not right.
This game has had many changes. Many of the changes are from suggestions made by the paying and non paying customers. Most of those changes have worked out fine. Many have been unnecessary. But I do think the opinion of those who pay their bills should be taken more seriously then those who do not pay. but the ones who dont spend MAY SPEND and have to be listened to by the devsQuote:
Originally Posted by Riot
But more to the point what makes you such an expert as to what is and isnt going to be changed in this game. Most of these so called changes you predicted have been asked for for months before you said a word about it. And probably were already in the works before you said a thing. SO dont think just because coincidentally things changed shortly after you asked for them to be changed means you were right or the were changed cuz you coin so much, or that you know what will happen next.
SHUT UP and stop calling everyone who doesnt like this patch cry babys - this is like the 5th time you have done so and you need banned for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020
Usually agree with you boo. BUt I think the power changes in gwf are a little over the top and if you werent in a realm that was so dead you would see that. but alas as we both know dark realm in server 1 is all whorehouse and thats it and has been since almost day 1 of server.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBooMan
See and here I agree with boo. The CWF changes mean nothing to anyone. PR you are gonna win the next one or bubba is or exec cuz you all have 2 wins each so your all equal at the moment. sure you may not win every one now but so what you wanted it to be fair? HAHAHAHAHAHA careful what you ask for..Quote:
Originally Posted by DaBooMan
And we need help getting explorer out from pr and exec asses can we get some lube here man
Yep. I agree. So stop rebuilding something that is not broke to start with. I think that is what everyone is saying about the GW and CWF.Quote:
Originally Posted by g346007_1906957
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You know what I think we're done here. I'm closing it before we have a mass brawl on our hands.