Arena Stakes idea

The Arena gets really exciting when there is a Leader Card and especially the 1000-gemstake. People notice and get excited.
Otherwise beyond this, with the mounds of coins, chests (with 99.8% junk inside), exp that gives 0.0001%, and the credit stakes that are laughably useless beyond belief ..... if it's not gems, we yawn. They're not even worth the click to attack your neighbor.
Most people won't even jump for the leader cards. (not worth the 150gems to transfer).

What I'd like to see is some added hope & excitement to the arena. (but making this rare so it's not too powerful).
Here are some added things one could also put in as arena-stakes...
-- You already have Leader cards, why not add Gold and Purple cards? and Blue cards? (caution: make sure they are redeemed as heroes the player has already unlocked -- newbies getting Pompey and Genghis can be very bad). Gold hero giving grand announcement.
-- Blue Stars and Purple Stars (which was brought up in an earlier thread). Purple star giving grand announcement
-- 100 casino chips (1 spin), or 1000 chips for grand announcement
-- maze tokens (1, or 10 for grand announcement)
-- lvl1, 2, 3 chips

... basically having almost every single thing that exists in the casino (but not skill scroll or 20,000 gems) to be included as an arena stake (like the existing 1000gems and leader card).

Is this necessary? no. But it will certainly increase the *excitement* on that Arena button we always see and don't bother to click. :)

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Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020

The Arena gets really exciting when there is a Leader Card and especially the 1000-gemstake. People notice and get excited.
Otherwise beyond this, with the mounds of coins, chests (with 99.8% junk inside), exp that gives 0.0001%, and the credit stakes that are laughably useless beyond belief ..... if it's not gems, we yawn. They're not even worth the click to attack your neighbor.
Most people won't even jump for the leader cards. (not worth the 150gems to transfer).

What I'd like to see is some added hope & excitement to the arena. (but making this rare so it's not too powerful).
Here are some added things one could also put in as arena-stakes...
-- You already have Leader cards, why not add Gold and Purple cards? and Blue cards? (caution: make sure they are redeemed as heroes the player has already unlocked -- newbies getting Pompey and Genghis can be very bad). Gold hero giving grand announcement.
-- Blue Stars and Purple Stars (which was brought up in an earlier thread). Purple star giving grand announcement
-- 100 casino chips (1 spin), or 1000 chips for grand announcement
-- maze tokens (1, or 10 for grand announcement)
-- lvl1, 2, 3 chips

... basically having almost every single thing that exists in the casino (but not skill scroll or 20,000 gems) to be included as an arena stake (like the existing 1000gems and leader card).

Is this necessary? no. But it will certainly increase the *excitement* on that Arena button we always see and don't bother to click. :)

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I love these ideas! I think they'd add a ton of value to the game as a whole and the arena. wouldn't be too difficult to code either I don't think.

Maze tokens would be awesome! I have a full set of Guardian armor and all the Ironheart weapons but only one guardian spirit. The rest of my spirits are champion since the lab hands out so few tokens.

The basic premise of the idea is that MOST things that exist in Casino to be put in Arena stakes (rare / grand prizes), including Casino tokens

This Thread has my Approval :) A few of them are current rewards like lvl 1 - 2 chips and blue stars. Would be happy to see more rewards added and raise the coins and credits rewards :)

Excellent ideas. :)

I agree on the arena stakes.

Also since I have hit lvl 110, the XP stakes are worthless since the XP bar does not progress. They should fix this. The XP (once fixed) should be significantly increased as you gain higher and higher levels.

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Originally Posted by WickeD

A few of them are current rewards like lvl 1 - 2 chips and blue stars

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Hmmmmm, yes *thinking*
Perhaps the chest can represent something random, like the Casino chests, just like it is but with an upgraded / expanded variety. The hope that it can be something big = more excitement even if it's super-rare.

However I'd like to see lvl3 chips (and rare lvl4 chips, and super-rare lvl5 chip) and blue/purple stars on their OWN stake also, and let the chest represent something random.

All of these stakes on the list are very useful, and ALL of them are LESS powerful than the existing Leader Card (and definitely less powerful than 1000-gems). Basically this is a petition for variety, and (wishful thinking) less useless stakes (credits/xp) ... to make a more exciting (without overpowering) arena. :)

You can already get level 1 and 2 chips and blue medals on chests, but they are rare. In any case, U do like the idea.

Reputation stakes please ^^ (separate from the cap)

cuddles... your a genius

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

Reputation stakes please ^^ (separate from the cap)

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YES thank you! It's on the Casino wheel but I forgot to mention this one specifically. Definitely add the 1000 reputation to the idea list (that is unaffected by the arena cap). Another idea is the Advanced runekeeper thing that gives 1 fragment.

heck get rid of the credit / xp stakes and put in...
(brainstorming ideas for common stakes. We want items that are small but are useful)
-- tiny 10-rep cubes
-- 1 guild contribution cubes (unaffected by Win-Win). Yes only 1 contrib for the common ones.
-- 1 stamina cubes
-- 1 casino token (need 100 of these to spin)
-- credit stakes that are ACTUALLY half the amount of the coins stakes
or basically anything that exists on the casino wheel and divide it by 100.

Very nice idea, something that will help all sizes of players :)

i like this idea as well :)

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Originally Posted by Andy

You can already get level 1 and 2 chips and blue medals on chests, but they are rare. In any case, U do like the idea.

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also purples, if i may add



i in general like the idea of changing the rewards, this was mentioned in previous posts, however i like the idea of including random heroes (just add the color group gold, purple and the game will do the rest and not include heroes you dont have yet like in fair and guild chest). casino and lab tokens are great too and a nice alternative to chips and low credit rewards. those rewards however should not be announced and just replace the old out dated ones.

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Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020

YES thank you! It's on the Casino wheel but I forgot to mention this one specifically. Definitely add the 1000 reputation to the idea list (that is unaffected by the arena cap). Another idea is the Advanced runekeeper thing that gives 1 fragment.

heck get rid of the credit / xp stakes and put in...
(brainstorming ideas for common stakes. We want items that are small but are useful)
-- tiny 10-rep cubes
-- 1 guild contribution cubes (unaffected by Win-Win). Yes only 1 contrib for the common ones.
-- 1 stamina cubes
-- 1 casino token (need 100 of these to spin)
-- credit stakes that are ACTUALLY half the amount of the coins stakes
or basically anything that exists on the casino wheel and divide it by 100.

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thats too greedy to make a difference and i would prefer any current XP reward over 1 guild contrib, 1 casino, etc
here is why:
i have a few players with me in the top 6 in our arena that dont have auto claim and i can claim their stakes like half the day. if i am lucky i get 2 chips on the same day. giving one casino chip per box it would take over a year for my free spin, however i will be lucky and might get 100 contributions before that...
no i think it should be 1 free spin instead of the lv2 chip and 10 guild contributions per level 1 chip (and yes win/win CAN apply coz you earned it).
stamina is a nice idea too but will not be significant considering that in the best case scenario you will get 47 boxes during the same day if even 10% of those have stamina, you wont even notice.

Thank you for the suggestions; let's keep the ideas flowing! :D
If we implemented ALL these ideas, here is how Arena would be: (so we can PICTURE the ideas)

There are 4 classes of rarity.
Common, Uncommon (like the big coins and 10 gem stake), Rare (like the 100 gem stake), and Announcement (like the 1000 gem stake).

Common stake options:
Currently these options are coins, credits (that are almost nothing), XP, chest
With these ideas, new common stakes would be...
-- Coins
-- Credits that are actually 50% the amount of the coins
-- XP (keeping these)
-- Chests that can contain any non-gem item from Common, Uncommon, and Rare, and also including crafting materials and speakers. Basically same as before but with added variety.
-- 1 casino token
-- 1 stamina
-- 1 guild contribution
-- 10 reputation
-- level 1 chip (can be in chest)
The criteria for the common stakes, we wanted items that are *insignificant*, but x100 ARE significant. 100 contrib = 1 gold chest. 100 casino tokens = a casino spin. 100 stamina = useful. 100x 70k coins = 7mil coins. 100x 10rep = 1000 rep, etc. And yes, level 1 chips are insignificant. Need 125 of these to make a lvl 4. Autocollect would gather 24x2 = 48 of these (slightly less if you add in the 10 minute gap in between).

Uncommon stakes:
-- BIG coins (same)
-- BIG credits (but 1/2 the amount of the coins)
-- BIG XP (same)
-- 10 gems (same)
-- Blue star (can also be in chest)
-- level 2 chip (can also be in chest)
-- Blue hero card (as kaisim suggested, to be a blank blue card and be redeemed as a random hero the player can access. Can also be in chest)
-- 1 maze token (can also be in chest)
-- 100 reputation
-- 10 stamina
-- 10 contribution (CAN be affected by Win-Win)
-- 10 casino chips

Rare Stake options:
-- 100 gems stake (same)
-- Purple Star (can also be in chest)
-- Purple Hero Card (can also be in chest. Blank hero card for player to redeem as a hero they can access)
-- 10 maze tokens
-- level 3 chip (can also be in chest)
-- 100 casino chips
-- 100 stamina
-- 1000 reputation
-- 100 guild contribution (can be added with Win-Win)
-- Advanced Runekeeper thingy that gets you 1 frag and maybe a synergia.

Super Rare Stake Options; the ones that get announced to whole server:
-- 1000 gems stake (same)
-- Leader Card (same)
-- Gold hero card (Blank hero card for player to redeem as a hero they can access. Optional: Like Casino, do we want these to include Maria to Free players?)
-- 99 maze tokens (I know this is big, but it's definitely smaller than 1000 gems)
-- lvl 5 chip
-- 10 purple stars
-- 99 blue stars
-- 1000 casino chips

Let me know what you think. Any feedback is greatly welcome! :)

This all sounds good. I hope thy implement some of these suggestions.

this is ways too much and confusing, all you did was took your suggestions, added the others to it and made it look like one big agreement lol
i'd recommend to cut it down a notch to about half that as follows (just copy/pasting from your post):

Common stake options:
-- Coins (WILL be affected by cities and "Devoutness")
-- Materials (x1)
-- XP

Uncommon stakes:
-- Materials (x5)
-- BIG XP (same)
-- 10 gems (same)
-- Blue star (chest)
-- level 2 chip (chest)
-- 200 reputation (WILL be affected by "loalty card" and Cities)
-- 5 stamina
-- 20 contribution (WILL be affected by "Win-Win")
-- 10 casino chips (COULD be affected by "Mr. Popularity", lol get it?)

Rare Stake options:
-- 100 gems stake (same)
-- Purple Star (chest)
-- random Gold or Purple Hero Card (chest)
-- 3 maze tokens
-- level 3 chip (chest)
-- 100 casino chips (COULD be affected by "Mr. Popularity")
-- 50 stamina
-- 1000 reputation (WILL be affected by "loalty card" and Cities)
-- 200 guild contribution (WILL be affected by "Win-Win")

Super Rare Stake Options; the ones that get announced to whole server:
-- 1000 gems stake (same)
-- Leader Card (same)
-- 10 purple stars
-- 99 blue stars
-- 5000 casino chips (=1000 gems)


this would give a more updated version to todays game standards and would in my humble opinion help lower and stronger players at the same time and also adds more excitement. it also increases the desire to buy more gems and invest more into guild techs and emphasizes more online time to look out for better stakes.

Very good! I like these a lot: (hilighting the differences)

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

Uncommon stakes:
-- Materials (x5)
-- 200 reputation (WILL be affected by "loalty card" and Cities)
-- 5 stamina
-- 20 contribution (WILL be affected by "Win-Win")

Rare Stake options:
-- random Gold or Purple Hero Card (chest)
-- 3 maze tokens [[I'd probably do 5, but 3 works!]]
-- level 3 chip (chest)
-- 50 stamina
-- 200 guild contribution (WILL be affected by "Win-Win")

Super Rare Stake Options:
-- 5000 casino chips (=1000 gems)

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Very good ... The ONLY thing I'd disagree on is the city-boost with coins/credits arena stakes. Why? Because those cities are already ridiculously overpowered (ie: shrine) compared to the other cities and all 3 are typically hoarded by only 1 guild. Last thing we want to do is further tip the scale and make the most powerful cities (hoarded by 1 guild) even more powerful.

Ultimately it's the devs that decide. We're just giving ideas ;)

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Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020

Very good! I like these a lot: (hilighting the differences)


Very good ... The ONLY thing I'd disagree on is the city-boost with coins/credits arena stakes. Why? Because those cities are already ridiculously overpowered (ie: shrine) compared to the other cities and all 3 are typically hoarded by only 1 guild. Last thing we want to do is further tip the scale and make the most powerful cities (hoarded by 1 guild) even more powerful.

Ultimately it's the devs that decide. We're just giving ideas ;)

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why disagree? if a skill/tech states it boosts all rep/contribution earnings then it should apply to all earnings and include stakes as well. as for the servers where there is only one guild that is holding all cities, i have two things to say:
1) ask them if they think its unfair (they earned it just like everyone else)
2) it would be up to a different "focus group" to fix the GW that got nothing to do with stakes



EDIT:
the description for the cities reads as follows:
"ALL reputation income increased by xx%" so why not include it (ragna still bugged and rep bonus i believe)

Good ideas :D