Need help on formation to defeat Mulan and who to use in the battle. please help
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Need help on formation to defeat Mulan and who to use in the battle. please help
Added this tread to the index as the Miulan tread.
I beat her using
cianna xxx xxx
xxx main xxx
shayd dawn adam
cant remember what my runes and pw lv was though
please try checking out the replays first
Long time ago, but I remember replays being really helpful. Put a lone (and buffed) Queen P in middle row, and you should be set.
Yeah honestly with a good Queen P its pretty easy. Just make sure your other heros can handle one or two lone soldiers, and you'll be fine.
you don't need her at all and if those guys from the replay had just a spark of understanding in-game mechanics they wouldn't put up such a form
The replays already in place are extremely good. You should check them out. Make sure your Queen P can handle 2 magic attacks in a row. She'll need messiness. The following formation is one by Juanshot if I remember well. It works wonders with proper defensive equipments:
Herja, Empty, Adam
Queen P, Empty, Empty
Empty, Main, Ahmose
Sub: kidding you don't have it yet :P
Adam dishes out damage in this form. He must be able to sustain some damage as well.
Watch the entire fight. See if queen p needs more of something, or if adam needs more of something. The rest should be ok.
Edit: Juanshot did it at 8M power. Most people are much higher when they beat her, so this form is REALLY easy.
he doesnt need ahmose and should put a stronger DD there. his pent is supercharged on HP and gear and he only wins the fight because his got got a double hit in the end.
my form was
herja xxx adam
xxx main xxx
xxx blood rhize
the main in this case got physical and magic defense added and herja got magic defense added as well. the fight goes as in mulan is able to kill the main first then adam and at the end is herja, rhize and blood still standing. he is lv85 with 8m power... i was 75 with 12m and did it with ease on the second or third try. this is a great example for two things: many of the replays are rigged on lowest power possible (remove runes and gear you dont need from heroes, etc) so they can be on the list. secondly it teaches us that power can be deceiving and you have to watch all the replays and see what works for you.
ps: no way he had 8m power when he beat flavius and lance lol
Another one that works well is:
XXX Adam XXX
QP XXX XXX
Herja Flavius Main
thanks everybody
this is another useless form that was shown in the replays.
first of all why would you let your main hit first in a PVE situation, then in case pent gets killed, adam goes down fast and then mulan after hits a group of 3 toons. and secondly, why use flavius? (after the minions are killed he will do 0 damage to mulan). third, after your main is killed you have herja and flavi do 0 damage and lastly, you dont make use of herjas 40% magic resist bonus at all
You don't get it.
Queen P doesn't die. There is no "just in case she does"; it's GG if she dies. So nobody worries about who gets hit next by Mulan since nobody else has to worry about getting hit. Only Queen P is hit by Mulan. And she takes it like a man.
Secondly, Flavius is important in keeping enemy skill attacks at bay. He may be less advantageous against a mage boss but still helpful nonetheless. Additionally, he would still do some damage at endgame because without a LB set he still does phy attacks.
Thirdly, putting your main hero in front is nice because mains are somewhat tanky and don't waste a skill attack (whereas queen p skilling first off would be wasted potential in that she heals 0 hp).
Fourthly, we don't want to make use of Herja's magic defense directly in this case because she would get demolished if placed in Mulan's row.
Fifthly, how is a form useless if it works?
You seem uneducated in the ways of efficient battling, young grasshopper.
thats exactly my point that some level 85 guy pretends to be some 8m power guy and obviously put 6m of his total power into pent and you dont even know how far his passives are and armor enchants are. thats my entire point about being deceiving just to show up on that list. or in other replays when they have at least 3 lightbringers spirits when others at the same power stage still dream about getting their first iron... its you who doesnt get the point of misleading replays where he might as well just put queen pent into the bottom row and runs it with 2 heroes instead
ps: about the "somewhat tanky" i'd like to point out a form where my MAIN tanked the entire thing with just 3m more power and not lost any runes or gear to make the illusion of a low power player to be on the replays
I don't think people try to deceive, but rather they just desire the fame and glory of being in the top 5. For example, I had a General A replay for a few days, but then DrthCadeus came and got a better one so i was kicked off :( Needless to say, I went back and powered down a few mil power to reclaim my position. I don't think it's wrong. I actually think it's good that a player can demonstrate versatility and understanding of battle technique to earn a replay, even if it means powering down some. It's even better when the replay can benefit others - for example, JuanShot didn't use Maria against Mulan; it helped me out and probably helped many other non-coiners.
I took Mulan down with
Herja-x-Adam
Queen P.-x-x
x-main-ahmose.
13.2 mil power, no problem. Happened the same day I beat the minister. Kasim should get off his high-horse:D
Moved the posts related to how to fix the replays here http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...7199#post47199
I used,
main,ada,xxx
queen pen,xxx,xxx
xxx,Blood,Rhize
The problem with all of these, is, they include adamanti... as of 4/15/2014, and a little while ago... u can not find a fighter that does damage to multiple squares, at 60K each square, like is in these examples... and the key to doing all the damage to all those guards in short order, is adamanti...so; provide a current example, w/o adamanti...
xxx Herja Main
xxx xxx Queen P
xxx Rhize Shayd
Worked a treat.
U guys struggling with mulan need at least for everyone to hav messiness. So try this form.
Herja X Adam
Queen P X X
X Main Rhize
P.S I got her at 8.5 mil power so this should be easy for the stronger people out there.
I used...
Herja X Adam
X Main X
X Blood Rhize
Sub: Shayd
I was 19 Million power.
For memory all heros had Messiness at least 6, some had level 7,8 and 9
it is failing i get her down to 59%
been trying for a bit now, not having any luck , going to keep trying these different forms without adam though. wish me luck lol
A form I personally found EXCELLENT for Mulan is :
Maria Lance X
X Pent X
Herja Main X
Need a good advantage/adept on lance, also Righteousness so he starts with 100 + Morale also needs a high spirit
QP just needs to be buffed to max
8/10 Success rate, 50-95% hp left at 15mil