How to help my team (Constructive Criticism, no Flammatory Remarks)

So, I am just curious as to how to make my team better (especially with Runes). My power right now is 4.07M and I am level 65. My team is:

Main Char:
-Guardian Sword (+23)
-Guardian Chestguard (+32)
-Hope Bringer Spirit (+13)
-Guardian Helm (+23)
-Champion Cloak (+19)
-Champion Relic (+20)
6 Stars, Saint II.
Nimbleness: 8
Hawkishness: 8
Vitality: 7
Retaliation: 8
Partisan: 7
Advantage: 5

Queen Penthesilea
-Guardian Sword (+32)
-Guardian Chestguard (+30)
-Hope Bringer Spirit (+20)
-Guardian Helm (+21)
-Champion Cloak (+24)
-Champion Relic (+22)
4 Stars, Saint II.
-Partisan: 7
-Retaliation: 7
-Vitality: 6
-Hawkishness: 7
-Nimbleness: 7
-Wall: 8

Maria:
-Champion Staff (+27)
-Champion Chestguard (+16)
-Apprentice Spirit (+10)
-Champion Helm (+16)
-Champion Cloak (+16)
-Champion Relic (+16)
7 Stars, Mortal.
-Eradicator: 6
-Trance: 5
-Hawkishness: 7
-Superiority: 7
Agility: 7

Cianna
-Guardian Sword (+20)
-Champion Chestguard (+16)
-Apprentice Spirit (+10)
-Champion Helm (+16)
-Champion Cloak (+16)
-Champion Relic (+11)
Saint IV, 6 Stars.
-Artisanship: 7
-Partisan: 6
-Retaliation: 6
-Hawkishness: 7
-Agility: 7

Saffron
-Champion Sword (+26)
-Champion Chestguard (+20)
-Apprentice Spirit (+10)
-Champion Helm (+16)
-Champion Cloak (+16)
-Hope Bringer Relic (+19)
7 Stars, Saint III.
-Vigor: 7
-Wall: 7
-Dexterousness: 5
-Hawkishness: 6
-Righteousness: 6


That is my team so far. Please tell me if any improvements can be made in the comment section.

UPDATE: 6/26/14 not finished. Will update Maria, Vispanus Agrippa, and Destroyer Herja later.

Morale runes are needed for physical heroes. They won't add to your power, but don't worry too much about power.

At low levels, a tank is extremely useful as well. An ahmose or saffron (especially if they could skill first turn) and high hp will allow you to beat players far above your power.

Like Partisan and Righteousness? I see. Thanks man.

Should I replace any heroes?

also, I've re-added Saffron into my ranks. That little lady is a badass. She's not too useful in Cerb/Baal fights...trade Alexa for Saffron for that. But for Arena and stuff, put Saffron back in :)

Updated the original post.

Constructive criticism and advice is welcome.

You should give Prophet P a try. Put him in middle row, and I think he's better than dawnbringer.

I wouldn't get too attached to dawnbringer since in the future you will use him for many transfers.

For runes you should focus on getting as much gold runes as you can. Spend a lot of time in the rune temple and you should get one or two of them for every 20-40 mil coins you spend. If you are going to PvP then Ahmose is good, but you should build up Queen P. because later on she is a life saver for Royal Challenges and HR. Maria is not really that useful later on but I do not really own Maria so when you get Herja, I recommend replacing Maria with Herja. Other than that after you get to Adam, Dawnbringer is not that helpful, in my opinion. And for Banish once you get Herja, your form should be: Top- Herja X Shayd Mid- X X Main Bot-X Damage Dealer (Pref Lance, Cianna, Alexa) Calvin. Once you get a sub it should be another damage dealer but not Lance!

life as die makes a deal as wall 7 as vigor 7 but its spos to bet 9 but when beat the team you get kicked out

when you get wall you lose or win but what:o

flesh i found it it s called flesh for power raise more

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Originally Posted by SaviorOfLight_4592723

For runes you should focus on getting as much gold runes as you can. Spend a lot of time in the rune temple and you should get one or two of them for every 20-40 mil coins you spend. If you are going to PvP then Ahmose is good, but you should build up Queen P. because later on she is a life saver for Royal Challenges and HR. Maria is not really that useful later on but I do not really own Maria so when you get Herja, I recommend replacing Maria with Herja. Other than that after you get to Adam, Dawnbringer is not that helpful, in my opinion. And for Banish once you get Herja, your form should be: Top- Herja X Shayd Mid- X X Main Bot-X Damage Dealer (Pref Lance, Cianna, Alexa) Calvin. Once you get a sub it should be another damage dealer but not Lance!

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please ignore his banish form, i am sure you can come up with something a lot more effective.
about the "getting a lot of yellow" i agree, however they get more as you progress in the game and so do fragments. if you where seeking about advice on how to use rune temple, then it would be "NEVER buy yellows or purples with fragments until you have a complete set of 3 combo runes on all your heroes in your formation.

now about what you got...
you are doing well, however i suggest to make your mind up on a tank. according my experience (level 108, 240m power and roughly $200 spent) i would suggest to make up your mind if you want your main as a DD (damage dealer or as a tank). i dont think your main can be both until you maxed out your gear levels on all other heroes. in PVP (people vs people) i like to use my main as a tank because they are awesome at it. meaning dont put your best sword on your main but let him/her have your best armor and best defense runes. make up your mind who is your main damage dealer and give your best runes/weapon/spirit to it and then tuck away/protect that hero into the center of your formation. i can see you have saffron but he doesnt have your top defense gear. i recommend to switch him for a DD like rhize. i can also see maria in your formation and she is nice for PVE, however i think in advanced PVP she is rather useless especially against players whos adam kills you in 1-2 hits. i suggest to use herja more in your everyday/pvp formation and swap her our for a second tank when needed. thing is herja doesnt need a high weapon (meaning you can have a lv1 staff on her and replace it for a tank with a lv1 sword) and she likes to have your defense runes, your highest dodge and a small preciseness, just like your second tank would.
thats the major parts where i would put an instant fix on, the rest is pretty much gaming experience that you will acquire by being online and just playing a lot.

This isn't popular ...but ... I don't think that Morale runes are needed on all physical attack heroes. On my main, female blade master, She only just now received a morale rune and that is because she got an Endurance (Finally after many months.) Also, on previous server, I did not put a morale rune on Saffy - there were just other runes that I believed to be more beneficial to her and that goes with my main on current server, as well. I weigh out what is more important and when the game is just starting and you have very few rune slots to work with ... You have to decide whether you want a skill right off the back or would a preciseness be better (what's the point of throwing an awesome hit if it doesn't land, right?) ;)

And somehow - beyond my understanding, I was able to withstand temptation from buying yellows and only bought gold runes on current servers. It worked out GREAT. Yes, it took some time - and my rune game lacked for a long time as I waited for yellows to come naturally ... but it was worth it.

Good Luck to You! :)

Thank you, guys and gals. I will take all of this into consideration. What I got from most of this was:

-Maria won't be very useful later on, especially in PVP
-I should replace Maria with Herja
-Make up my mind on my main damage dealer (ultimately will be Adam or Alci when I get either of them)
-Make up my mind on a tank (I'm still not 100% sure, because right now my main focus is PVE, but Royal Challenges and HR are stuff I really like doing)
-Getting the good runes will take a long time, and I shouldn't really use Fragments to get them until I have the 3 runes that require 100 Frags to get)


Also, I will be updating soon. Thank you, again, people.

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Originally Posted by ts.long_3246860

This isn't popular ...but ... I don't think that Morale runes are needed on all physical attack heroes. On my main, female blade master, She only just now received a morale rune and that is because she got an Endurance (Finally after many months.) Also, on previous server, I did not put a morale rune on Saffy - there were just other runes that I believed to be more beneficial to her and that goes with my main on current server, as well. I weigh out what is more important and when the game is just starting and you have very few rune slots to work with ... You have to decide whether you want a skill right off the back or would a preciseness be better (what's the point of throwing an awesome hit if it doesn't land, right?) ;)

And somehow - beyond my understanding, I was able to withstand temptation from buying yellows and only bought gold runes on current servers. It worked out GREAT. Yes, it took some time - and my rune game lacked for a long time as I waited for yellows to come naturally ... but it was worth it.

Good Luck to You! :)

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what rune (other than HP and block) can be more important than skill with your tank in the first round before it dies or takes unnecessary damage?

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Originally Posted by Seighart1235_8107952

Thank you, guys and gals. I will take all of this into consideration. What I got from most of this was:

-Maria won't be very useful later on, especially in PVP
-I should replace Maria with Herja
-Make up my mind on my main damage dealer (ultimately will be Adam or Alci when I get either of them)
-Make up my mind on a tank (I'm still not 100% sure, because right now my main focus is PVE, but Royal Challenges and HR are stuff I really like doing)
-Getting the good runes will take a long time, and I shouldn't really use Fragments to get them until I have the 3 runes that require 100 Frags to get)


Also, I will be updating soon. Thank you, again, people.

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you may want to rethink that. only because maria wont be usefull later on doesnt mean she is useless to help you now. you can also have both, maria and herja in the party. you should always have 2 staffs and an additional sword (put the staff and the sword in the bank to prevent them from mixing up with the other weapons when auto gear up.
when decide on a main damage dealer it doesnt have to be either or, you can have both, adam and alci in your party and in other situations you may want to swap out your adam with alci or rhize or whatever hero to focus your damage.
definitely make up your mind on a tank because there is two to choose from and you will find situations where you want to tank with your main and have him replaced by a sub tank. so you dont want to "waste" medals and spirits on three tanks.

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what rune (other than HP and block) can be more important than skill with your tank in the first round before it dies or takes unnecessary damage?



you may want to rethink that. only because maria wont be usefull later on doesnt mean she is useless to help you now. you can also have both, maria and herja in the party. you should always have 2 staffs and an additional sword (put the staff and the sword in the bank to prevent them from mixing up with the other weapons when auto gear up.
when decide on a main damage dealer it doesnt have to be either or, you can have both, adam and alci in your party and in other situations you may want to swap out your adam with alci or rhize or whatever hero to focus your damage.
definitely make up your mind on a tank because there is two to choose from and you will find situations where you want to tank with your main and have him replaced by a sub tank. so you dont want to "waste" medals and spirits on three tanks.

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Might not like hearing this, but right now I don't have Adam, Rhize, or Alcibiades.

And right now, I'm not seeing much benefit from Herja. I will try getting better runes/armor.

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Originally Posted by Seighart1235_8107952

Might not like hearing this, but right now I don't have Adam, Rhize, or Alcibiades.

And right now, I'm not seeing much benefit from Herja. I will try getting better runes/armor.

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I would suggest queen P. Put your best gear and runes on her and keep powering her above all your other heroes. Then herja would help (and herja doesn't really need good gears. just some basic defense and hp.)

number one thing is Laby. Do the Laby as many times as you can afford everyday. Spirits are the key. Tokens are precious. Especially if you hope to use Herja. For that you need the morale bonuses.....just keep saying over and over LB6 LB6 LB6.....

I like Queen Penthesilea. She heals about as much as her skill damages. Of course, she is a lesser version of Khan (imo, since they have the same skill), but I have her right now and can use her. Thank you guys.

Right now my team is Ahmose, Shayd, Maria, Dawn (I switch him with Cianna and Herja sometimes depending on the situation) and Blademaster

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Originally Posted by Seighart1235_8107952

I like Queen Penthesilea. She heals about as much as her skill damages. Of course, she is a lesser version of Khan (imo, since they have the same skill), but I have her right now and can use her. Thank you guys.

Right now my team is Ahmose, Shayd, Maria, Dawn (I switch him with Cianna and Herja sometimes depending on the situation) and Blademaster

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She's actually the greater version of khan. You will be using queen P a lot in the future... more than you use khan.