GLITCH cheat - free cards from tavern??

I am noticing that the guild Mystics (all cheaters, big coiners and TOS violators) on server 30 has members suddenly turning in top-shelf cards DAILY for 4-6 turn ins. They CLEARLY have found a redemption spirit GLITCH and exploiting it 24/7 for past 2 weeks.
When challenged in world chat - most of them will lie and say they just have lots of unclaimed spirit turn ins. BUT the turn in rate by the same players would mean that they have to have had 10-20M spirits DAILY to get this large number of card sanctifications for the gold level cards of premium heroes I am seeing.

One of them told me in private "look into the spirit glitch".

So - I am here to tell Tynon that there is a massive CHEAT going on in card turn ins on server 30 and probably other servers who know about a way to cache or exploit a spirit redemption glitch. This is just making it ever harder for the honest player to compete and making people quit the game for lack of stopping the incessant cheating that's going on.

I've heard of it too, on same server. PM's with them seem to confirm this. They tell me "go check out the spirit glitch".

If there was an exploit, I'm certain they won't tell you to "go check out the spirit glitch".

They're all probably pulling your legs and see if you actually post it in the forums lol.

10-20m credits a day isn't that hard to get.

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Originally Posted by Herby

If there was an exploit, I'm certain they won't tell you to "go check out the spirit glitch".

They're all probably pulling your legs and see if you actually post it in the forums lol.

10-20m credits a day isn't that hard to get.

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He said 10-20m spirits, not credits. I haven't seen anything like this... I'll make a char in server 30 to confirm if this is true.

yeah, it's gotta be spirits. I could see them messing with us...which is actually pretty damn funny if so many of us fell for it. :D

LOL 10-20 MILLION spirits daily?

orly

Apart from the leader, who is probably a large coiner... no one in that server/guild has even decent saints if there really was such a glitch.

I've heard of such a glitch/exploit as well. It's not fair really.

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Originally Posted by Herby

If there was an exploit, I'm certain they won't tell you to "go check out the spirit glitch".

They're all probably pulling your legs and see if you actually post it in the forums lol.

10-20m credits a day isn't that hard to get.

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Not CREDITS - SPIRITS

Maybe it is helpfull to give us a daily update of what they have recruited from Tavern.
That way it might be easier to determine if it is indeed out of the ordinary or if it can be done with spending credits wisely on tavern tuesday.
So screenshots?

There would be some days when I would save up for the week and redeem 20 THOUSAND (not million) spirits, such as 12 adam cards, etc

And if what you say is accurate with the 20 million spirits, that's over 12,000 Adam cards (12,000 world messages spammed).
Remember every recruit and redeem is spammed in World Chat. Can you tell us **how many** of these cards are being redeemed?

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Originally Posted by Cuddles_1461020

There would be some days when I would save up for the week and redeem 20 THOUSAND (not million) spirits, such as 12 adam cards, etc

And if what you say is accurate with the 20 million spirits, that's over 12,000 Adam cards (12,000 world messages spammed).
Remember every recruit and redeem is spammed in World Chat. Can you tell us **how many** of these cards are being redeemed?

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Ooops, Yes I mean 20K spirits. Basically seeing 4-5 card sancts back to back from above level basic starting sancts - multiple times with different cards too.

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Originally Posted by RiverBummer

Ooops, Yes I mean 20K spirits. Basically seeing 4-5 card sancts back to back from above level basic starting sancts - multiple times with different cards too.

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I currently have over 80k spirits. In past occasions I've purchased ~15 Dawnbringer cards all at once, sanctified him and then transferred it to another hero. What you described isn't anything special unless we're still misunderstanding what you are saying.

I purchased 15 purple cards last week. I am not using any kind of glitch. I just save up my credits all week.

Why hasnt a MOD closed this thread already i see no purpose in this thread.
IF this was to be a true glitch then it should be reported to support.
If this is just a waste of forum users time, then you should really try make new friends.

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Originally Posted by DaBooMan

Why hasnt a MOD closed this thread already i see no purpose in this thread.
IF this was to be a true glitch then it should be reported to support.
If this is just a waste of forum users time, then you should really try make new friends.

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Why waste your breath whining if you have nothing to contribute? We bring these topics up to get a survey from other users to see if there is in fact a glitch/cheat.
Those who whine the most or claim "it's normal since I do it all the time" may have a nefarious self motive to shut down the topic.

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

I purchased 15 purple cards last week. I am not using any kind of glitch. I just save up my credits all week.

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I am NOT talking about purple cards. I am talking top shelf yellow cards like Pompey or Bloodstorm or Horemheb or Ghengis etc. There's no way you can turn in that many credits to convert to that many spirits in one session to get 5 back to back card redemption sanctification levels (and god knows how many fails we never see) .

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Originally Posted by RiverBummer

I am noticing that the guild Mystics (all cheaters, big coiners and TOS violators) on server 30 has members suddenly turning in top-shelf cards DAILY for 4-6 turn ins. They CLEARLY have found a redemption spirit GLITCH and exploiting it 24/7 for past 2 weeks.
When challenged in world chat - most of them will lie and say they just have lots of unclaimed spirit turn ins. BUT the turn in rate by the same players would mean that they have to have had 10-20M spirits DAILY to get this large number of card sanctifications for the gold level cards of premium heroes I am seeing.

One of them told me in private "look into the spirit glitch".

So - I am here to tell Tynon that there is a massive CHEAT going on in card turn ins on server 30 and probably other servers who know about a way to cache or exploit a spirit redemption glitch. This is just making it ever harder for the honest player to compete and making people quit the game for lack of stopping the incessant cheating that's going on.

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Well...when you find out what it is send me a mail

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Originally Posted by Rocco

I currently have over 80k spirits. In past occasions I've purchased ~15 Dawnbringer cards all at once, sanctified him and then transferred it to another hero. What you described isn't anything special unless we're still misunderstanding what you are saying.

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What you are describing here is an extremely rare level of player - maybe .25% of the entire player base would bank that many spirits and foolishly not use the economic principal of time-value-of-money (fungible conceptually with spirits in this dialog) to leverage/invest them into gaining faster power acquisition by using them sooner in-game rather than later. The players I am observing doing what I am describing are dominant players who buy coin chests like fast-food and constantly amass power - they don't sit on unrealized power very long in the manner you're describing. If there is an economy to transmuting a lower level gold card such as Dawnbringer to gain a better gold card like King Thesus then they would not be doing it but one time to get the base card attributed over and established (stars and various hero bonuses) not many times. The pattern observed would also be limited to one player not to the group of different players doing it all in the same time frame -- unless it was the same player personality soloing many different alt or purchased accounts (again against the TOS either way). So I don't think your interjected depiction here is at all typical and is in fact atypical and rare (and frankly economically stupid).

If there was a glitch, my guess is it wouldn't be in the tavern, but in the guild chests. Remember this conversation:

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Originally Posted by Gretta_2937960

Yeah I find it amazing at how some seem to think someone must be cheating because they can use in game strategies (know when to choose a guild chest, know when to use gems, and etc) better than others ...lol

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Using gems better than others is a strategy.
Knowing when to choose a guild chest is not - if you actually can change what a guild chest will give you - then yes you are cheating - since what you will receive in your next guild chest and also the next few is stored server side - the only way to change it is to cheat.

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As most know, you can choose what card you get from guild chests when you get one. Now, if someone could change what they get from guild chests to get a card every time (i.e., cheat), then it would result in what you are describing. A player in a level 8 guild that owns Koleton, for instance, would get 11 cards every day.

But I'm speculating a lot here. I don't think someone can actually change what a guild chest gives. And if someone can, then it's really BS.

Hate to break it to ya, but 20k spirits on a Tuesday (for coiners) is ..... normal.

Whats the big deal I get 15k spirits per week from Tuesday. But I save them up until I can get 40-50 cards at a time, which means at some times I'm close to 100k spirits.

my only question is that if there was such a thing why would it stay local on a single and not spread rapidly across the servers?

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Originally Posted by RiverBummer

Why waste your breath whining if you have nothing to contribute? We bring these topics up to get a survey from other users to see if there is in fact a glitch/cheat.
Those who whine the most or claim "it's normal since I do it all the time" may have a nefarious self motive to shut down the topic.

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Well u hold cards with gems, u gain cards with spirits, as it states this guild are big coiners.
So tell me why it is not possible that they only gained 5 cards and held with gems?
Why do people who can not compete with these bigger guilds always think they cheat at everything?
There are so many Whine threads i have run outta cheese for them all.

Plus openly discussing Glitches/Exploits is against TOS :)

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Originally Posted by RiverBummer

What you are describing here is an extremely rare level of player - maybe .25% of the entire player base would bank that many spirits and foolishly not use the economic principal of time-value-of-money (fungible conceptually with spirits in this dialog) to leverage/invest them into gaining faster power acquisition by using them sooner in-game rather than later. The players I am observing doing what I am describing are dominant players who buy coin chests like fast-food and constantly amass power - they don't sit on unrealized power very long in the manner you're describing. If there is an economy to transmuting a lower level gold card such as Dawnbringer to gain a better gold card like King Thesus then they would not be doing it but one time to get the base card attributed over and established (stars and various hero bonuses) not many times. The pattern observed would also be limited to one player not to the group of different players doing it all in the same time frame -- unless it was the same player personality soloing many different alt or purchased accounts (again against the TOS either way). So I don't think your interjected depiction here is at all typical and is in fact atypical and rare (and frankly economically stupid).

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As I asked, maybe we misunderstood what you are describing. If you are saying there is a group of 5-10 players all doing this at once and not just one big coiner with a couple of his alts, then it sounds like something you can certainly report to Tynon support.

Now, was it necessary for you to throw insults because I simply presented a different perspective that you simply felt didn't agree with your assertions? You don't know my situation yet you make presumptions about why I have spirits saved up. Does that not point to a lack of objectivity on your part? Without getting into the my situation on my server, the one thing I can say is, in early and mid-game, every card you get means a significant upgrade. In late game this is no longer the case. Getting a single card means I have a low chance of getting a relatively small boost to my hero.

You may have all the heroes that you currently PVP and PVE with all sanc'ed up. There may be another hero you are waiting to acquire (KT, Aphro, Scipio, etc.) and you are saving up spirits for him. Or you may have already recruited the hero, but you aren't going to use him anyways until, for example, he has 14 stars and at least ArchAngel (since he would still be too weak compared to your other heroes). What if you decide to use a different hero before then? There are plenty of reasons.

Ok two very important points to bring up here.

1. Openinly naming and accusing players or in this case guilds is against Forum rules
2. Posting potential exploits and possible ways to achieve them is also against Forum rules.

Sorry to say those two things have given this thread a 'closed' sign. If you suspect any kind of exploitation then it must be reported to Customer Support and/or PM it to Dawnseeker and davemata.

The forum is not the best place to discuss this sort of thing.