I've just been perusing the new heroes, and I'm wondering why we would use Ezikiel over Herja? What makes him a better hero, if anything?
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I've just been perusing the new heroes, and I'm wondering why we would use Ezikiel over Herja? What makes him a better hero, if anything?
1) Talents: Physical and Skill defense are superior to Magical defense.
2) Better Base Stats: better defenses, especially if starred. Drawback is more expensive to star.
3) Gold vs. Purple: can be sainted more times. Drawback is more expensive to saint.
Biggest drawback though is Ezekiel is a wrinkly old man while Herja is a real babe.
+30% skill and +30 physical resistance
+5 saint levels (Dominion level)
Better quality saints (no whites)
Higher stat increases per star level
Ok Herby was there a need to rephrase everything I posted?
EDIT: you did post that the saints are better quality, which I did not mention.
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Is Eze like Herja in that Magic Attack and Hit Rating does not affect how well he does?
Great. Now that I got my 2nd sub slot I need to build up equipment and runes so I can put some one there and be able to consistently beat him instead of once in a blue moon.
grz on your second subslot and herja CAN miss, especially on lower levels. however since they both have a tank like setup and you dont need a magic focus, i suggest to have a mid preciseness in that open rune slot so you have the option switch the spot out with a second tank (assuming you got an endurance and reliability on all your toons)
Pics or it didn't happen, on the whole Herj missing thing.
Never saw Herja miss. Even if naked and no runes.
Maybe kaisim saw Herja "miss" a mage? (which has no morale) :)
herja and prophets never miss. I use them naked in banish :)
whats wrong with you kids? next you will deny science. especially you herby! i remember you saying that bloodstorm can not block and i have proven you wrong and in many other situations. dont get me started about riot who is constantly sticking his head up other behinds and constantly adjusting his opinions about anything.
only because you never seen it doesnt mean it doesnt exists... i NEVER said they miss in banish! the original statement is that herja can miss at lower levels and thats why i recomend a low hit rating rune for her with a tank armor and rune setup. the hit rating rune is not lost either way since you dont want your tank to miss his skill either if you switched them out and otherwise you have an open slot if you dont. at later levels the from the developers given 40 hitrating are sufficient to not make her miss again. no one said anything about ezk.
your assuming and sometimes arrogant statements make the forums often a misleading source for especially newer players who will take every statement you make for a fact.
I think you misunderstood the "morale up" skill kaisim. It's not a targeted skill like greater heal. It's an effect that's a certainty.
It raises the morale of all friendly heroes that's not a mage or supporter, and decreases the same for the enemy heroes.
first of all your original comment said that bloodstorm can not block because all his attacks are skill and therefore he can not be blocked because he skills everytime (unless morale is lowered) and i have proven you wrong in both way and remember presenting screenshots on both scenarios.
i never said that ezk can miss and i never said that the morale up feature could fail (its been reported to seen it being dodged from own party members before tho just as with marias heals can be dodged from your own party members). i have said it about herja in the past and still say it can happen at lower levels so unless you are saying you are a newbie now and have a low level and just acquired herja yesterday, you wont be able to experience the same.
however all this does not change anything about the fact that when you are on your best rune setup and NOT use a preciseness on her (and ezk for that fact) you have an open rune slot and what would be better to fill it with a preciseness to keep your options open and switch her/him out with another tank and add a low sword
EDIT: i also remember there was this mentioned the first time because it showed in one of the early replays of herja and i didn't believe it at first until i looked at it
Well I have never seen herja miss. Even at low levels, it should not change any game dynamics. They are support class and as I understand it, they have 100% chance to land their skill on both supporting formation and the opponent.
Also I thought I have seen Blood's skill dodged before, but I have not seen it "blocked"
In fact I don't recall seeing any "skills" from melee classes "blocked" I have seen them "dodged" but never blocked.
stay on topic and stop trolling or hold your peace
for the record, by the speed you paid yourself to the top i doubt that you have watched even 1% of the battles that other players at the same level have watched and you meant that AOE skills (like adams) can be blocked/missed/dodged but not counterattacked and yw
Let's stay on topic. This is a Prophet Ezekiel thread and discussion on Bloodstorm, Herja or any other Hero does not belong here unless it is to compare their abilities to Eze.
unfortunately i have to admit that this is here the case. some here seem to read inbetween lines and assume that ezk can miss his skill like the early herja because they have the same skill. others say that skills cant be blocked ever because they assume that all skills are the same and its about "skill or not skill". fortunately the game is more complex than that.
however i give in and agree that posts about herja and any other hero belong somewhere else but ask for an exception since ezk and herja have the same skill but differ in passive skills and stats.
as for ezk vs herja themselves we all agree on that ezk is much more superior than herja since ezk's base p.def/s.def/m.def are superior while ezk gets 30% physical and skill resistance bonuses (yes there is a difference between defense and resistance), however the 40% magic resistance of herja i would prefer if ezk wouldnt have an even higher dodge rate than herja, so to me it would be a really tough call unless tynon would be designed to be more "mage friendly", so ezk is the obvious and by far better choice; to answer the OP's original questioin.
however I immidiatly transfered someone to her so.. :).
Agree on all accounts, I have never seen Herja miss either or any skill attack being blocked.
The reason to switch Herja and Ezel for me is that the big guy is harder to kill because of previous mentioned additions, thus giving me more skill attacks for the team.
Though... Herja does look better ^^.
You would prefer to have 40% resistance to a damage type that is minimal when compared with the potential physical/skill damage coming from an opponents team? Interesting...
Looking at your post count and how much of it actually useful to the general public... Lets not go the troll route.
EZ K is actually a great tank if one plays it right.
you are either ignoring the point on purpose or not getting it. beating a boss with superior power is not the point here. also be honest to yourself and ask how many battles you have watched compared to others. back in our days before you started playing there was no "result" button and we spent days in HR doing what we/others do now in an hour. i wasnt talking about your ezk form or how bad it is (having to dodge/evade multiple times and to rely on crits in a series of multiple events is not a good form) or how usefull. the point was that players dont watch battles anymore like they used to and if there is an event that happens 1:1000 then you are the first to jump on the bandwagon and say "i have never seen it happen" but guess what, no one cares if you have seen anything in the 5 events that you watched in the time you started to pay for the game. there is others who actually enjoy playing and have their own opinion about things and dont take answers granted from other players. especially you - andy could be saying something today and herby would say its not like that the next day and then someone else would add something to it on the third day and i would bet that you would agree to all 3 over the three days.
ps: I have seen what i have seen what happened with herja and i never said it happened with ezk. also ezk is superior over herja, however there is situations where i prefer the 40% magic resistance over ezk's p.def/s.def, especially in pve situations. i was also the first (from day #1) to suggest to put a tank setup on herja (and later ezk) especially because all you need is a cheap sword and you can switch them out for saff or ahmose and because you have the open rune slot anyways you might as well add a preciseness so the slot isnt lost because saff/ahmose dont want to miss their defensive skills.
Kaisim you started a month before I did. When i started there was no results button either.
Back to the OP. No Herja and EZ K cannot miss. end of discussion. If you saw it miss, it was a graphics bug on your end. It happens.
so after i have rejected everything you said and shown that its all nonsense and assumptions on your part, you just lay down the law and say whatever you say is right? hahahahaha
that maybe the most pathetic answer i have read in a long time. yes lets go back to the OP but also make sure you stop spreading your lies and assumptions and hope that not everyone takes whatever you say for granted (example forms, banishes, in game mechanics, etc...)
ps: october is the month i signed up on the forum, this is my first and only toon, i have never switched servers. unlike you because your first hero as you said so yourself and the server you are on now is like 111-115'ish?
Kaisim, I am not sure what you are talking about. I have only been on 1 server this entire time and that is server 103. I changed my name is all I did.
As for the OP around EZ K and Herja missing in battle. It is not only me, it is many others who agree, they just simply never miss.
When I do banish, my prophet is naked with no armor and no runes. He never misses. It is not the law, it is a fact. I am just stating the fact. If you saw it miss, please show a screen shot. Most likely it was graphics bug. I am not always right, I have been wrong many times. I could be wrong here too, but I doubt it.
i have repeatably said it does not apply for ezk and no one cares about bainishes and no one ever said they could miss in banish! what is wrong with you! why are you flaming and trolling so much to pretend that you are more competent in this game than your credit card is! no one can be that much of an [censored] as you are pretending to be
mad much Kaisim?
Take a chill pill.
Even when I had herja on banish it was the same thing.
But in pvp it is the same thing and I have never seen both herja and ez k miss.
SO I am speaking from what I have seen and experienced.
I have never ever never ever never ever never ever EVER seen either Herja or EZ miss in ANY situation.
i can only speak for herja, but same, have never ever seen her miss, even on small accs, so i'm finding it hard to believe that she can miss at all.
I recently started on a new server, and got Herja just last week. I do watch my battles, and have yet to see her miss once. I am host of my guild, and I have told them all that Preciseness is never needed on Herja. If you insist otherwise Kaisim, please provide evidence, as I do not wish to misdirect my fellow guildmates.
i have heard players saying the exact same thing about maria and have provided screenshots of her heals getting dodged AND blocked from her own party members.
again, my level is now too high to get you evidence, and it was shown in the replays back then for everyone to see.
however i have to emphasize this since this seems to be snowballing into some "you said something wrong" thing:
if you have all defense runes up on herja and ezK and assuming you have endurance and reliability on herja as well. you have a tank set up and 1 open rune slot. its recommended to fill in that open rune slot with a low preciseness. that way you can get more flexible, replace her with ahmose/saff or with bryn for example without having to worry about accuracy. it wont hurt you, you wont know its even there. problem solved, move on with your life and learn something new about the game.
ps: please keep this thread on topic and stop ranting about herja. if you insist on trolling then please do so in an appropriate herja thread
Just got Ezekiel. I want to sanctify him but can't decide to sanctify him with a + Skill Defense or a + Resilience.
If I put the + skill defense, does that make the over all skill defense go higher since he has the 30% skill defense bonus? Does this make sense? lol