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My 10 star Flavius just hit someone's Blood and Adam who each had 9 stars. They both had 160 morale and no morale sanctifications. They were then hit by Herja.
Flavius's hit should have taken 60 morale because he had more stars.
Herja's hit should have taken 5 morale.
This means none of them should have skilled.
Yet they both skilled.
Can someone explain to me what happened?
I still managed to win the round, but I lost a battle because of this and I was kinda mad.
Here's a replay of the last battle: http://www.tynon.com/replays/2875627
Could it be that Flavius takes a little bit less than 60 morale?
Where does it say he takes 60? Mine is low starred and kinda sucks, so I don't know.
Flavius takes out more morale when he is higher starred than your opponent. I thought the number was 60, like many. It doesn't seem to be the case, or it doesn't seem to be the case anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by g346007_1906957
well if its even a little less than 60 (59) Herj won't drop the person below 100, so perhaps they had more than 160?
Edit after watching replay:
Its obvious those heroes are nowhere near 100 morale (much higher) after Flavs hit...so either they don't have 160, or you need more than just one extra star to take away 60 morale.
I am positive they didn't have more than 160. I checked their sanctifications and runes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
Why would Herja not drop a person below 100? It happened to me in the past that I couldn't skill because Herja had hit me.
She won't drop someone above 100 morale below it, even if the morale amount would be enough to drop it from 100+ to less than 100. Test it out.
That might be why...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
But if you check the replay, there is orange on the yellow bar after Flavius's hit. This mean there is more than 100 morale on the bar.
Exactly, so basically if you knocked them to even 104 morale, they would stay above 100, thus making Herj useless in that situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
I trust you on that. However, I wonder what number Flavius actually takes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
Good question. I always wondered why people assumed that it was 60?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
It has to be less than 60, but more than 40. My guess is they probably chose the round number 50.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revan
It doesn't seem to be 55 because there is still orange after both Flavius and Herja hit. This would mean it is less than 55 as well.
It looked to me like those heroes had like +110-115 or so morale left after flavious hit.. there was clearly some darker yellow in the bar.
So if you are 100% sure they had 160 morale, then clearly your falvious dont remove 60.. :-)
Secondly It is impossible to see if a hero have 103 or 105 morale..
I cant see why there should be any restrictions on hejra..
She remove banish 100 morale to 95 morale in final round just fine if she starts..
correct, if its 1 star difference he should be draining 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
wrong, she would and she drained morale. did you even look at the replay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
She drained morale but didn't drain it below 100, correct? Im pretty sure she can only drain from 100 >> 95, no other increment of morale will be low enough to bring someone below 100 morale.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Not true. I fought someone who had 140 morale on his Pompei. Same situation: he had 9 stars, I had 10. Morale dropped below 100 and his Pompei didn't skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Don't count on Flavius removing the enemy's ability to skill at the start of the fight.
The effects are sometimes random and cannot be predicted.
Just resort to Flavius to make sure the enemy doesn't skill in the next round.
Well, if you want to prevent others from skilling the other round, sometimes Falvius needs to hit early. This is needed when you fight Blood, Pompei, Scipio or Khan, as they retain morale and even gain morale. This was the case in the battle I posted, for instance, where I wanted to prevent Blood and Pompei from skill attacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
Anyone worth their salt would never get their Pompey or Blood or Scipio stopped from skilling.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenWing
As I said, don't rely on Flavius too much. He's weak vs strong PvP players who know what they're doing.
I rarely fight people who know what they're doing, but I get your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Herby
because they where all OVER 120 and not at 100. figure it out yourself and place herja to debuff at the start of a round against a hero with a 100 morale runeQuote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
I guess I was always under the assumption she took more morale than just 5, hence thinking she couldn't drop it below 100 unless it was EXACTLY 100. Good to know, still up in the air what exactly she drains then.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Assumptions are the mother of all ****ups.. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
I have a 18 Star Flav, who I follow up with Herja on many occasions. She infact does take heroes below 100. Unless the hero has a lvl 12 endurance, or a sanctification of morale, I take many heroes off their skill attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881
only for you... only for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Kitiara_3214881