lab lv3 normal and hard

I know what the "official" answer will be and dont think we will get any from the ones who have a true saying at tynon, however, it seems to be a mistake when the lab boss in normal is (sry if i forgot, but its like...) 200m power and i am able to beat him with only 3 heroes left and not even a healer needed and the first bonus boss got 1.4 Billion power and the second bonus boss is under 400m while the 3rd and fourth still not even close.... i honestly think that someone screwed up up a year or two ago and put the 5th bosses power (4th bonus boss) as the first bonus boss by accident and its never been fixed since... dear developers: am i even remotely close?

ps: i mean why would you want me to force to beat the 1st bonus boss on the 9/10th try with a new form after beating the main boss with 3 heroes down and no healer?

i gotta agree here. it doesn't seem quite right that the 1st boss is the hardest of the rest! at least we know when we beat him we get the rest, but still, it shouldn't be that way round.

Seems true for normal, but on hard I think 3rd bonus boss is harder to kill than 1st bonus boss.

just try and beat minos taurus on level 3 hard, now that is fun

still doesnt explain why the first bonus boss got 5-10x the power that it should have

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

I know what the "official" answer will be and dont think we will get any from the ones who have a true saying at tynon, however, it seems to be a mistake when the lab boss in normal is (sry if i forgot, but its like...) 200m power and i am able to beat him with only 3 heroes left and not even a healer needed and the first bonus boss got 1.4 Billion power and the second bonus boss is under 400m while the 3rd and fourth still not even close.... i honestly think that someone screwed up up a year or two ago and put the 5th bosses power (4th bonus boss) as the first bonus boss by accident and its never been fixed since... dear developers: am i even remotely close?

ps: i mean why would you want me to force to beat the 1st bonus boss on the 9/10th try with a new form after beating the main boss with 3 heroes down and no healer?

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That boss was intended to be a blocker.

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

That boss was intended to be a blocker.

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Pretty much this. The boss is a gear check -- it is not hard to SURVIVE (the boss and his mobs deal soooo little damage, but they have a lot of health). If you have the damage, you can proceed to beat the others a little easier.

That is for level 3 normal. For level 3 hard, I think the progression in bosses is linear. I was able to beat the first 3 bonus bosses pretty easily (have to change form for 3rd bonus boss) but the 4th boss I couldn't beat until last night no matter what my formation was (I am at nearly 300M power now, but lacked the necessary magic resist I suppose -- fixed that problem).

Your best bet is skipping level 3 normal asap. Riot pointed out to me that level 3 hard is easier than normal, so I gave it a shot and I have to agree. I think THAT is the bigger problem (hard being easier than normal). I sure hope they fix level 3 hard and make it HARD when they release the next spirit plan.

if it is really the case as being a "blocker" and a "gear check" why would you make the other bosses so much more insignificant and so much easier than him. also, wouldnt the actual lab keeper qualify as the gear checker before you even get to the bonus bosses and why are they not ascending in power, so if the first boss is at 1.4B then the second should be equal or higher in power.
... i mean i dont get why you are getting defensive on this unless you are a developer in disguise, but you are also pointing out that hard seems to be easier than normal which would be another indicator that ONE boss is out of order and got ways more power than he should have.

as for hard i think its equally to the normal except you have a few more mobs to fight, so if you can take it then go for it. on the other hand arent we all only doing the easy and normal level to get the plans on the shuffle? meaning that since there is no other plan than sirus (where we cant even farm mats for), it would be for the higher level chips only. so unless you have all 6-7 judgement spirits then i'd suggest move on to hard, however the ONE boss is still out of line that you can even beat while being in your banish form (at least i can) but its one of those things where you say "guess what thing doesnt belong".

What forms do people use for Lab 3 Hard 3rd boss?

Pirate gave me a form that works but only once every 50-60 tries :(

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

I know what the "official" answer will be and dont think we will get any from the ones who have a true saying at tynon, however, it seems to be a mistake when the lab boss in normal is (sry if i forgot, but its like...) 200m power and i am able to beat him with only 3 heroes left and not even a healer needed and the first bonus boss got 1.4 Billion power and the second bonus boss is under 400m while the 3rd and fourth still not even close.... i honestly think that someone screwed up up a year or two ago and put the 5th bosses power (4th bonus boss) as the first bonus boss by accident and its never been fixed since... dear developers: am i even remotely close?

ps: i mean why would you want me to force to beat the 1st bonus boss on the 9/10th try with a new form after beating the main boss with 3 heroes down and no healer?

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Only In lvl 3 normal is the 1st boss harder in the rest its fine.

Adam Maria Aphro
KT Main x
x x x

Goes all the way up to Minos in Level 3 Hard w/o a sweat.

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Originally Posted by Herby

Adam Maria Aphro
KT Main x
x x x

Goes all the way up to Minos in Level 3 Hard w/o a sweat.

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I'm guessing Sub Penn? Or Sub Khan?
Is this form viable in the 230M power range?

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Originally Posted by Yelsha

I'm guessing Sub Penn? Or Sub Khan?
Is this form viable in the 230M power range?

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Subs are actually Ezekiel and Rhize. They don't really get to fight until Aldebaraan and Minos.

I don't think that's viable for the 230m power range. I was 300-400m power when I started doing level 3 normal and hard.

Both Aphro and Maria have 18 stars, I think that factors a lot into their not getting killed easily.


Tip: With lower power and 1 sub, this form is achievable if you use Khan as your sub, and lower the defenses of your main, so Khan replaces it right away. Even if you heal, Khan gets healed, not your main.

xxflav
x main penth
x prophet khan
sub adam
sub theseus

if you dot have 2nd sub it can still work with out theseus

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Originally Posted by mattp169

xxflav
x main penth
x prophet khan
sub adam
sub theseus

if you dot have 2nd sub it can still work with out theseus

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Is this for Aldebarran?