SInce we can rig palace yes they are very appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Not until we cant rig palace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
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SInce we can rig palace yes they are very appropriate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Not until we cant rig palace.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot
i really dont see a big issue with setting up hp...we use it as a kind of peace keaper during saturday sails on our server...if we dont set it we have 1 that completes and 2 that does 89 some that does 69-79 and most wont pass 50 statues...when we set it 5 might complete it and most gets to 70, its not like anyone gonna make a massive power jump from an extra card but i do see your point that if there would be a big increase in rewards it would be a bigger issue..but if there were then i wouldnt power down on my server to feed enemy realms anyways...
just ignore him, he doesnt grasp the concept that if you DONT set up the palace and for lower players its an achievement to for example beat obsidian palace but why would they do that if they get something stupid like 30 rep, 50k coins 20k credits rewards after spending 2-5m credits (depending on luck) buffing up to 100%.
he is not capable of understanding that lower players can not go half way through (not even talking about complete) without higher players like us setting it up for them.
no matt, i am not a butthurt small player, i am actually the only one that completes on our server if my statue is in a full PVP set up. if we dont set up anything, it would put me up in banish form and there is 2 other who can beat me in that.
now what makes you believe that 10, 20, 30, 50, etc rep rewards is appropriate to get for a player with closing in on 9 million reputation?
again, i dont care about you setting up palace or not and on our server we setting it up once in a while if i think about it. but getting any reputation, low coin amounts where i get bigger in my already low arena stakes, credits or some purple hero card that i already have on AA5 and never use does not make ucool look to me as ignorant but it is just insulting to me.
This is not about what any particular server does in HP. HP can be set so all statues are 1 hero with no runes or equipment. There fore even a brand new acct could possibly get 100 in palace. So if they raised the rewards some servers could set it up so that everyone gets 100 and gets these higher valued rewards. And players could have 10 alts run the palace and get 100 points earning significant amounts of coins and credits gems whatever. Then those accts are farmed etc. SO as long as that can happen, the rewards are appropriate. If they change the mechanics so we can not set hp, then the rewards should be significantly increased because they are ridiculous. But since we can set it, then the potential for serious abuse exists and raising the rewards just increases the amount of abuse and the desire to abuse the mechanic further.
I do want rewards increased like most people do, but I want the mechaniccs changed so you can not set hp.
I do feel that a possible solution to situations like Kasim described would be that the statues powers are relative to each other. SO the most powerful satue is not 1b power while the weakest staue in rune palacce is not 300m power.
But HP was not something that everyone is suppose to complete. It is suppose to be a challenge.
Also even when I could obnly get 30-50 points in HP with full boost, I always came out ahead on credits. ALWAYS.
for an event someone can do ONCE a week and talking about abusing or farming it, carries it a little too far, plus cards, reputation, medals, gems etc are not tradeable nor can you farm them off the alts and therefore all your concerns regarding "farming" the palace with alts are imaginary.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
i really dont see a problem in increasing the shuffle rewards with increased reputation, adding the cards, fixing the 5/10 medal drops to actually drop 5 and 10 medals and not singles. above mentioned from other players to increase the low coin and credit rewards by x10 donsnt seem like a problem either to me.
that being said, the possible easiest solution to avoid fixing palace i mentioned several months ago by just giving the "rankings" power/forms from the top 10 players. however i dont think its in the interest of ucool to do that since when players work together, find events they can do as groups it is better for your game because it keeps your customers happy. so if you are not able to set up the palace anymore then its just another nail in the coffin because the lower players have just something less to do ... or increase the rewards so it actually rewards them for doing the palace and trying to push themselfs just that little bit further to get to that next stage.
I agree add the new cards to shuffle now
if there is a bug with the medals fix that.
BUt let stalk about this
ok so lets increase the coins by 10x as kasim suggests. Then we set palace to be all naked main heroes. I could run an alt through it earn 3m -40m coins.
I an easily get the 500k 800k 1m and 2m coins on flips. I do get those quite frequently now. SO multiply those by 10 plus the the coins you get for beating a statue. 40m or more coins is actually not unreasonable
now do that with 10 alts
oh and those 10 alts are getting alot more rep now
so they are gaining title quicker
giving them more credits and bonuses in game.
And wow im gaining on my main an extra 16m or more coins a day which keeps adding up each and every week i run my 10 alts through HP that is all set to 1 hero mains with the 10x ccoin/rep/credit rewards that are being suggested.
This all pushes us to the glass ceiling faster
making it less worthwhile to coin to get ahead
defeating the purpose of everything
So yes add new cards fix any bugs
but if the palace can be set, the coins credits rep , amount of medals, and any possibility of gems needs to stay the same
These issue you point out about alts is a separate issue and the whole alts issue impacts a lot of other things.
Most likely we are all talking amongst ourselves anyway. Any changes to HP will come when they come and when the DEV team prioritizes it above a lot of other things. It may be a while before we see any changes anyway.
again, coin greed is not my priority, but let me play along just this one more time:Quote:
Originally Posted by mattp169
i dont even know how much the highest flip on coins from rune palace is, lets assume it is 5m... i have right now 3.3 BILLION coins on me, whoa i am gonna be so rich getting those 5m, it will increase my stash by a whooping 0.1%.
looking forward earning another 10k coins on the first shuffle.
that being said, the coin rewards are only a small part. so you are assuming right now that everyone is spinning all the times coin rewards higher than 1m. i believe there is 1m from gold, 2m from crystal and 5m from gold. in those i honestly prefer a nice card, some gems or a bunch of medals. also dont forget that they can claim coins from CW from the tickets and i dont see you complain about that either. if someone can get "rich" from HP as far as "3-40m" coins is considdered being rich, he got my blessings. you think x10 is too much? fine then let me go ahead and suggest something else: adjust the coin rewards from the shuffle according to the level of the player as it is in the guild chests. i believe i am getting right now close to 30m DAILY from my guild chests if i open them while i own a map. ... no wait then you complain about your alts getting too much coins again... no wait the alts are already getting that... oh no, now i am getting confused, i thought the 3m from palace was too much already... its spinning... help...
ok lets come down to earth and point out that aside from alts not being legal and i would LOVE to see that enforced and cheaters like you loose their accounts, its still off topic and i still feel insulted in gaining reputation for even having to have wasted my time. the entire point is that less and less players even take the time to compete in HP because the rewards suck for the part they can get done. at least reward them with something they can appreciate and give out 1000 rep instead of the 100 rep or less. again, the reputation system together with title and rewards got reformed a long time ago, arena and other places to gain it got reformed but heavens palace did not
Most people on my server still do palace, yeah only 10 mil coins to do it all with an extra calvin or shayd card which I wont use. But aside from the top 5, people can still use that, there are lots of non top 5 people who still play and need a little extra. I would vote for a change similar to noble lady...adjust rewards for level or power. Not sure if any important tynon people actually read this.
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Oh well :)
Lets just keep praying that uCool still exist and all their reps