Heavens Palace Rewards

It would be nice if the rewards were actually beneficial compared to the amount of credits it takes to boost to actually get to the "okay" rewards. LOL common man lol . The heavens palace should be more rewarding for all even those who get to only like the 2nd or 3rd tier. 10m gold? not sure how that helps anyone but its not MY game I jus play It everyday. Im sure I speak for lots of players when I say The heavens Palace is unrewarding and more of just a prides game which is not as fun s collecting rewrds that can make our characters more useful and fun. Thanks for Hearing Lord Imperious Nomadz #83 Water realm

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I don't do Heavens Palace anymore on account of Nick being spot on. Rewards are crap.

For the older servers, the main reason to do it is for the small bump up in rep you get and if you can complete it you will almost always have acquired a card from one of the floors.

last 3 weeks all ended with a valla card for completion :( the rewards before that is just meh...1kk creds here and there and 2m coins or whatever...mostly hoping for the medals as reward but they almost never show

i for the first time got adam from the HP, oddly enough for completion of golden palace. crystal and rune gave me cianna and valla.
that being said, i always think of the rewards in most cases as an insult to the players. like when you happy to get 5 or 10 blue medals and it gives you 1 instead and when contacting customer service they would "confirm" that you got 1 medal but dont do anything about it. worst tho is the reputation rewards on the shuffle and i am certain that no player, no player ever, not even one that started an hour ago would go "OMG YES! 10 REP! I so needed that!!!!", let alone 10k coins or 5k credits, etc ...

The rewards for HP are fine. Seeing as everybody on the server who does it completes it why should the rewards be better?

If the guilds on your server aren't working together to make it work for everybody to complete, you need to sort it. It only takes 15 minutes to do the whole thing so the rewards are about right.

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Originally Posted by jrrtolley_7332441

The rewards for HP are fine. Seeing as everybody on the server who does it completes it why should the rewards be better?

If the guilds on your server aren't working together to make it work for everybody to complete, you need to sort it. It only takes 15 minutes to do the whole thing so the rewards are about right.

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None of that "setting up" palace on my server, a soft, possibly exploitish option imo, so only 2-4ish finish. Been like that since ultimate arena came in.

That said, the rewards at the start are awful. I can get more gold, exp or credits auto grinding for a few minutes

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

i for the first time got adam from the HP, oddly enough for completion of golden palace. crystal and rune gave me cianna and valla.

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An Adam card is nice to get sure, and if you get him. I've yet to get a good card from HP. So much so that I've gotten many more good cards from the guild chest than from HP. And an Adam card is also easily obtainable from the heaven's tavern. But the real shame of it all, is that the cards don't circumvent the rep requirements like the casino cards do. So if you get an Adam card, it is worthless until you get 800k rep. And when you get 800k rep you can just get Adam with spirits anyways.

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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

An Adam card is nice to get sure, and if you get him. I've yet to get a good card from HP. So much so that I've gotten many more good cards from the guild chest than from HP. And an Adam card is also easily obtainable from the heaven's tavern. But the real shame of it all, is that the cards don't circumvent the rep requirements like the casino cards do. So if you get an Adam card, it is worthless until you get 800k rep. And when you get 800k rep you can just get Adam with spirits anyways.

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To True, but I've never turned free down before.
Palace could def use a bump in rewards as some of the other events but it'd probably upset balances on newer servers so they won't even think on it. If they're thinking on it at all in the first place. Basically I hope and bank on the last two to three tiers of palace to throw ya anything half way considered decent

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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

An Adam card is nice to get sure, and if you get him. I've yet to get a good card from HP. So much so that I've gotten many more good cards from the guild chest than from HP. And an Adam card is also easily obtainable from the heaven's tavern. But the real shame of it all, is that the cards don't circumvent the rep requirements like the casino cards do. So if you get an Adam card, it is worthless until you get 800k rep. And when you get 800k rep you can just get Adam with spirits anyways.

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luckily i am not in that situation with getting close to having 9m rep, but that is not the point or even remotely the issue here. there is multiple problems and issues with the rewards. first of all, the reputation system got reformed, more reputation is now required and there have been options added to acquire such and other options the value of gained reputation has been increased. NOT for the heavens palace. also the selection of heroes got opened up with the royal challenge. heroes got also added in title and to acquire them they got expanded in title recruit, lab and CW.
after all those additions and reforms, patches, etc, the rewards from the heavens palace on the other hand stayed exactly the same since heavens palace started.

They should not change any rewards in HP until the make it so you folks cant rig the palace.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

They should not change any rewards in HP until the make it so you folks cant rig the palace.

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we do this from time to time or i solo finish it and the next 2-3 is stuck at 79-89 and the most at 59 or less...i dont see what this has to do with you what each server does...not like they gonna come whoop ure ass in cwf from gaining an extra valla or whatever >.< should we all sink and pass maps to sink everyone on saturdays aswell to not make it unfair to the servers that are at war and sinks on saturdays aswell?

Eh, I never boost for Heaven Palace anymore, since I can never finish it and the rewards aren't really worth the boost anyway. I do play the Palace until I can't, just to collect the few rewards I can (only takes a few minutes now that we have the Results button).

HP has not updated the cards you can gain and it is very outdated. No one on my server plays it and waste time on it.

It is due for some major update. Such as add better cards as you keep opening next levels, and give better rewards such as chips and more coins and credits.

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Originally Posted by Riot

HP has not updated the cards you can gain and it is very outdated. No one on my server plays it and waste time on it.

It is due for some major update. Such as add better cards as you keep opening next levels, and give better rewards such as chips and more coins and credits.

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Once again I am all for this. But no change to rewards if people can set their form for HP and make it easier so more people can complete it.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Once again I am all for this. But no change to rewards if people can set their form for HP and make it easier so more people can complete it.

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You cannot get away from fixing HP. So this is a mute point. Updating of rewards should happen every time there is new content. Has nothing to do with the way people fix HP. That is another issue that needs to be dealt with separately.

Mean while we should not hold this event hostage as a result of the game mechanic issue.

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Originally Posted by Riot

You cannot get away from fixing HP. So this is a mute point. Updating of rewards should happen every time there is new content. Has nothing to do with the way people fix HP. That is another issue that needs to be dealt with separately.

Mean while we should not hold this event hostage as a result of the game mechanic issue.

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Ok, you have a valid point.

SO yes add the different card sin so say you can get a prophet zeke card on a flip.

But anything to do with increasing HOW MUCH you get from doing HP should be tied directly to the mechanics that it can be rigged.

SO say taking those coin rewards and multiplying them by 10 - This would be unacceptable to me with the fact the palace can be rigged.
Or if it suddenly dropped 10 purple medals on a flip - that too would be unacceptable to me while the palace can be rigged.
If people can get huge rewards for little to no effort - then what is the point?
Right now you can get small rewards for little to no effort.
So sure add the new cards into the draw - but until they change the mechanics so that it is equalized across servers, by not allowing some servers who chose to rig it - to rig it, no INCREASE in how much we get in HP should be considered.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

Ok, you have a valid point.

SO yes add the different card sin so say you can get a prophet zeke card on a flip.

But anything to do with increasing HOW MUCH you get from doing HP should be tied directly to the mechanics that it can be rigged.

SO say taking those coin rewards and multiplying them by 10 - This would be unacceptable to me with the fact the palace can be rigged.
Or if it suddenly dropped 10 purple medals on a flip - that too would be unacceptable to me while the palace can be rigged.
If people can get huge rewards for little to no effort - then what is the point?
Right now you can get small rewards for little to no effort.
So sure add the new cards into the draw - but until they change the mechanics so that it is equalized across servers, by not allowing some servers who chose to rig it - to rig it, no INCREASE in how much we get in HP should be considered.

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so you honestly think that 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 reputation rewards are apropiate and should not be multiplied by a factor to adjust them to the new promotion system?

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

so you honestly think that 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 reputation rewards are apropiate and should not be multiplied by a factor to adjust them to the new promotion system?

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Those "rep" should be replaced with gems

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

so you honestly think that 10, 20, 30, 50, 100 reputation rewards are apropiate and should not be multiplied by a factor to adjust them to the new promotion system?

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SInce we can rig palace yes they are very appropriate.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Those "rep" should be replaced with gems

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Not until we cant rig palace.

i really dont see a big issue with setting up hp...we use it as a kind of peace keaper during saturday sails on our server...if we dont set it we have 1 that completes and 2 that does 89 some that does 69-79 and most wont pass 50 statues...when we set it 5 might complete it and most gets to 70, its not like anyone gonna make a massive power jump from an extra card but i do see your point that if there would be a big increase in rewards it would be a bigger issue..but if there were then i wouldnt power down on my server to feed enemy realms anyways...

just ignore him, he doesnt grasp the concept that if you DONT set up the palace and for lower players its an achievement to for example beat obsidian palace but why would they do that if they get something stupid like 30 rep, 50k coins 20k credits rewards after spending 2-5m credits (depending on luck) buffing up to 100%.
he is not capable of understanding that lower players can not go half way through (not even talking about complete) without higher players like us setting it up for them.
no matt, i am not a butthurt small player, i am actually the only one that completes on our server if my statue is in a full PVP set up. if we dont set up anything, it would put me up in banish form and there is 2 other who can beat me in that.
now what makes you believe that 10, 20, 30, 50, etc rep rewards is appropriate to get for a player with closing in on 9 million reputation?
again, i dont care about you setting up palace or not and on our server we setting it up once in a while if i think about it. but getting any reputation, low coin amounts where i get bigger in my already low arena stakes, credits or some purple hero card that i already have on AA5 and never use does not make ucool look to me as ignorant but it is just insulting to me.

This is not about what any particular server does in HP. HP can be set so all statues are 1 hero with no runes or equipment. There fore even a brand new acct could possibly get 100 in palace. So if they raised the rewards some servers could set it up so that everyone gets 100 and gets these higher valued rewards. And players could have 10 alts run the palace and get 100 points earning significant amounts of coins and credits gems whatever. Then those accts are farmed etc. SO as long as that can happen, the rewards are appropriate. If they change the mechanics so we can not set hp, then the rewards should be significantly increased because they are ridiculous. But since we can set it, then the potential for serious abuse exists and raising the rewards just increases the amount of abuse and the desire to abuse the mechanic further.

I do want rewards increased like most people do, but I want the mechaniccs changed so you can not set hp.

I do feel that a possible solution to situations like Kasim described would be that the statues powers are relative to each other. SO the most powerful satue is not 1b power while the weakest staue in rune palacce is not 300m power.

But HP was not something that everyone is suppose to complete. It is suppose to be a challenge.

Also even when I could obnly get 30-50 points in HP with full boost, I always came out ahead on credits. ALWAYS.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

This is not about what any particular server does in HP. HP can be set so all statues are 1 hero with no runes or equipment. There fore even a brand new acct could possibly get 100 in palace. So if they raised the rewards some servers could set it up so that everyone gets 100 and gets these higher valued rewards. And players could have 10 alts run the palace and get 100 points earning significant amounts of coins and credits gems whatever. Then those accts are farmed etc. SO as long as that can happen, the rewards are appropriate. If they change the mechanics so we can not set hp, then the rewards should be significantly increased because they are ridiculous. But since we can set it, then the potential for serious abuse exists and raising the rewards just increases the amount of abuse and the desire to abuse the mechanic further.

I do want rewards increased like most people do, but I want the mechaniccs changed so you can not set hp.

I do feel that a possible solution to situations like Kasim described would be that the statues powers are relative to each other. SO the most powerful satue is not 1b power while the weakest staue in rune palacce is not 300m power.

But HP was not something that everyone is suppose to complete. It is suppose to be a challenge.

Also even when I could obnly get 30-50 points in HP with full boost, I always came out ahead on credits. ALWAYS.

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for an event someone can do ONCE a week and talking about abusing or farming it, carries it a little too far, plus cards, reputation, medals, gems etc are not tradeable nor can you farm them off the alts and therefore all your concerns regarding "farming" the palace with alts are imaginary.
i really dont see a problem in increasing the shuffle rewards with increased reputation, adding the cards, fixing the 5/10 medal drops to actually drop 5 and 10 medals and not singles. above mentioned from other players to increase the low coin and credit rewards by x10 donsnt seem like a problem either to me.
that being said, the possible easiest solution to avoid fixing palace i mentioned several months ago by just giving the "rankings" power/forms from the top 10 players. however i dont think its in the interest of ucool to do that since when players work together, find events they can do as groups it is better for your game because it keeps your customers happy. so if you are not able to set up the palace anymore then its just another nail in the coffin because the lower players have just something less to do ... or increase the rewards so it actually rewards them for doing the palace and trying to push themselfs just that little bit further to get to that next stage.

I agree add the new cards to shuffle now
if there is a bug with the medals fix that.

BUt let stalk about this

ok so lets increase the coins by 10x as kasim suggests. Then we set palace to be all naked main heroes. I could run an alt through it earn 3m -40m coins.
I an easily get the 500k 800k 1m and 2m coins on flips. I do get those quite frequently now. SO multiply those by 10 plus the the coins you get for beating a statue. 40m or more coins is actually not unreasonable
now do that with 10 alts
oh and those 10 alts are getting alot more rep now
so they are gaining title quicker
giving them more credits and bonuses in game.

And wow im gaining on my main an extra 16m or more coins a day which keeps adding up each and every week i run my 10 alts through HP that is all set to 1 hero mains with the 10x ccoin/rep/credit rewards that are being suggested.

This all pushes us to the glass ceiling faster
making it less worthwhile to coin to get ahead
defeating the purpose of everything

So yes add new cards fix any bugs
but if the palace can be set, the coins credits rep , amount of medals, and any possibility of gems needs to stay the same

These issue you point out about alts is a separate issue and the whole alts issue impacts a lot of other things.

Most likely we are all talking amongst ourselves anyway. Any changes to HP will come when they come and when the DEV team prioritizes it above a lot of other things. It may be a while before we see any changes anyway.

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Originally Posted by mattp169

I agree add the new cards to shuffle now
if there is a bug with the medals fix that.

BUt let stalk about this

ok so lets increase the coins by 10x as kasim suggests. Then we set palace to be all naked main heroes. I could run an alt through it earn 3m -40m coins.
I an easily get the 500k 800k 1m and 2m coins on flips. I do get those quite frequently now. SO multiply those by 10 plus the the coins you get for beating a statue. 40m or more coins is actually not unreasonable
now do that with 10 alts
oh and those 10 alts are getting alot more rep now
so they are gaining title quicker
giving them more credits and bonuses in game.

And wow im gaining on my main an extra 16m or more coins a day which keeps adding up each and every week i run my 10 alts through HP that is all set to 1 hero mains with the 10x ccoin/rep/credit rewards that are being suggested.

This all pushes us to the glass ceiling faster
making it less worthwhile to coin to get ahead
defeating the purpose of everything

So yes add new cards fix any bugs
but if the palace can be set, the coins credits rep , amount of medals, and any possibility of gems needs to stay the same

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again, coin greed is not my priority, but let me play along just this one more time:
i dont even know how much the highest flip on coins from rune palace is, lets assume it is 5m... i have right now 3.3 BILLION coins on me, whoa i am gonna be so rich getting those 5m, it will increase my stash by a whooping 0.1%.
looking forward earning another 10k coins on the first shuffle.
that being said, the coin rewards are only a small part. so you are assuming right now that everyone is spinning all the times coin rewards higher than 1m. i believe there is 1m from gold, 2m from crystal and 5m from gold. in those i honestly prefer a nice card, some gems or a bunch of medals. also dont forget that they can claim coins from CW from the tickets and i dont see you complain about that either. if someone can get "rich" from HP as far as "3-40m" coins is considdered being rich, he got my blessings. you think x10 is too much? fine then let me go ahead and suggest something else: adjust the coin rewards from the shuffle according to the level of the player as it is in the guild chests. i believe i am getting right now close to 30m DAILY from my guild chests if i open them while i own a map. ... no wait then you complain about your alts getting too much coins again... no wait the alts are already getting that... oh no, now i am getting confused, i thought the 3m from palace was too much already... its spinning... help...

ok lets come down to earth and point out that aside from alts not being legal and i would LOVE to see that enforced and cheaters like you loose their accounts, its still off topic and i still feel insulted in gaining reputation for even having to have wasted my time. the entire point is that less and less players even take the time to compete in HP because the rewards suck for the part they can get done. at least reward them with something they can appreciate and give out 1000 rep instead of the 100 rep or less. again, the reputation system together with title and rewards got reformed a long time ago, arena and other places to gain it got reformed but heavens palace did not

Most people on my server still do palace, yeah only 10 mil coins to do it all with an extra calvin or shayd card which I wont use. But aside from the top 5, people can still use that, there are lots of non top 5 people who still play and need a little extra. I would vote for a change similar to noble lady...adjust rewards for level or power. Not sure if any important tynon people actually read this.
Griffin S12

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Originally Posted by griffinbrock416_6551866

Most people on my server still do palace, yeah only 10 mil coins to do it all with an extra calvin or shayd card which I wont use. But aside from the top 5, people can still use that, there are lots of non top 5 people who still play and need a little extra. I would vote for a change similar to noble lady...adjust rewards for level or power. Not sure if any important tynon people actually read this.
Griffin S12

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Oh well :)
Lets just keep praying that uCool still exist and all their reps

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but on other hand Davemata was just active in the evony forum the other day maybe we should go there and post to get his attention

106 don't set up HP anymore because of greed and A-holes

i just had this crazy idea...
how about the heavens palace drops random sirius materials from the statues and plans from the shuffles instead of the useless rep, coin, creds, etc rewards?
and then later on when the developers caught up and finally completed the last part of the game (IF anyone is actually still working on it) it could pick up in HR with the next set for dragon, sphinx or whatever the names are

I normally complete HP and find the rewards that I receive over the course of the entire palace to be adequate. One of my guild members got a Leader card last week. I however don't see any issue with fixing HP. UCool has preached that some of the things they do is to keep stability on the servers and such. Well when we fix HP we are doing the same thing by helping the small players get rewards with the big players.

Even as it is now if you have several alts and complete it with them, then farm them you are going to get a lot of coins. This is a total separate issue that they need to fix. They are still out there they fixed the White Maria pretty quickly last CW, but there is no point in them sending an update on progress until it is done, Just gives the masses here more to complain about. We will get it when we get it.

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Originally Posted by schmiddy

I normally complete HP and find the rewards that I receive over the course of the entire palace to be adequate. One of my guild members got a Leader card last week. I however don't see any issue with fixing HP. UCool has preached that some of the things they do is.......[edited for space]...................... We will get it when we get it.

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When?? Really?? Do we even know they are working on anything?? NOOO cuz they won't even spend 30 seconds here to give us the "Patience players, we are working on it" speech.

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

i just had this crazy idea...
how about the heavens palace drops random sirius materials from the statues and plans from the shuffles instead of the useless rep, coin, creds, etc rewards?
and then later on when the developers caught up and finally completed the last part of the game (IF anyone is actually still working on it) it could pick up in HR with the next set for dragon, sphinx or whatever the names are

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lvl apropriate plans isnt a bad idea...if they even remove credits and coins there wouldnt be a way to farm alts using hp either so matt might be happier :p

Or add some higher level CHIPS

Somebody has gotten 5 leaders from HP lol