Player Trading?

Just an idea I think would make the game better. Since most everything cost gold: opening rune slots, buying runes, upgrading equipment, feeding mounts etc. it would be nice to be able to trade or sell items with other players. What I mean by this is being able to click a player and having a trade option available.

The reason I think this would be a good idea is my husband and I play together and are close to same level. I can do the same heroic boss everyday for a week. This boss drops cloak and relic plans. I get the cloak every time. I need the relic. Its the only boss that drops the relic but I never seem to get it. My husband on the other hand gets the relic every time and he doesn't need it any longer. It would be nice to be able to trade with him even if I have to pay gold because I don't have something else he needs. This way it would be a bit easier to accumulate some gold for those high upgrade costs.

Lets face it, although there are numerous ways to get gold the payouts aren't that great. Having lvl caps on quests when your power is enough to complete it makes it even more difficult as you get to the higher lvls because again experience is not that high from the extras. Auto lvling helps but if I don't have a plan to upgrade to or no stamina to auto then of what use it is.

Another thing that would be nice is full stamina at lvl. Most other games do this. I've played many games that required stamina to complete quests or tasks, they all fill stamina when you lvl. And please don't use the excuse that you can buy stamina because you can also buy it on all the other games and players will still buy it because most of us are too impatient to wait.

no to trade because all the above mentioned reasons. its nothing personal, but not only you and your husband would take advantage of that but also many other cheaters with their countless alts would exploit it. trade is the root of all evil in online games.
try the search funtion for it and there you will see all the other reasons why this idea was, is and always will be rejected.

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

no to trade because all the above mentioned reasons. its nothing personal, but not only you and your husband would take advantage of that but also many other cheaters with their countless alts would exploit it. trade is the root of all evil in online games.
try the search funtion for it and there you will see all the other reasons why this idea was, is and always will be rejected.

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True true true.

Wait a minute. You're calling me a cheater? With the use of other in front of cheaters you are definitely calling me one. Please don't do that as you don't know me or my husband. It was a suggestion. I'm getting tired of receiving a cloak plan when I need a relic plans. The least they could do is let you spend your stamina on more than one time a day if that is what one wishes to do. There are those that will take advantage of anything and everything, even good things. That is human nature. So you'll say no to a good thing because of the ones who take advantage of it? It's advantageous to anyone and everyone who play the game. BTW they can only take advantage of those who are too stupid to know they are being taken advantage of.

I get sick of all the gripes about player exploits and advantages. As far as I'm concerned it makes you look like a whining baby. I mean how many gems have you bought in this game? Don't those who can afford to buy gems everyday to beef up their heroes and characters have an unfair advantage over the poorer players who can't afford to? That's life dear. Why not gripe about that? (I'm NOT griping about it). There are no fair things in life and therefore it's unrealistic to expect them to be in games.

I don't think he's saying you're a cheater. I think he's saying ppl who use alts are cheaters because they use their alts to farm the game to the benefit of their main account. And a trading option would be another way for them to farm. It's unfortunate, because I think it would be great if we had a trading option, then guildies could trade among themselves to the benefit of the guild.

Warcraft, one of the most active games in the world, has a very busy trade system which works great. you can buy and sell most items, although some of course you cant. No one accuses WOw players of cheating by using the auction house. Everyone does it and works fine. Sure, some people choose to spend huge amounts of time farming stuff to later sell, and yes they accumulate large amounts of gold, but thats their choice and hey they put the time in and they deserve it. I agree with Emerald Collins, stop whining about it, lets do it.

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Originally Posted by EmeraldCollins_9090061

Wait a minute. You're calling me a cheater? With the use of other in front of cheaters you are definitely calling me one. Please don't do that as you don't know me or my husband. It was a suggestion. I'm getting tired of receiving a cloak plan when I need a relic plans. The least they could do is let you spend your stamina on more than one time a day if that is what one wishes to do. There are those that will take advantage of anything and everything, even good things. That is human nature. So you'll say no to a good thing because of the ones who take advantage of it? It's advantageous to anyone and everyone who play the game. BTW they can only take advantage of those who are too stupid to know they are being taken advantage of.

I get sick of all the gripes about player exploits and advantages. As far as I'm concerned it makes you look like a whining baby. I mean how many gems have you bought in this game? Don't those who can afford to buy gems everyday to beef up their heroes and characters have an unfair advantage over the poorer players who can't afford to? That's life dear. Why not gripe about that? (I'm NOT griping about it). There are no fair things in life and therefore it's unrealistic to expect them to be in games.

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i didnt call you a cheater, but i could just as well accuse you of reading into it what you want to believe to flame and put words in my mouth. i said you would be able to trade with your husband and let me refrase this "and others who cheat will be able to do the same".
now you are making a point here and i get it, but the game is intended that way to drop plans at random and we all went thru that. for that now you have the execute button and it already got a lot easier than it used to be. now follow me on this one and ask yourself how others know that you are you and your husband is another person. now after that try to understand why for the same reason the game makers wont be able to differentiate if someone got 28 kids and a wife playing from the same network in the same game.

now about the "unfair" advantage you are speaking about you not being able to afford to afford gems: tough luck and if you havent noticed, the game is designed that way to suck the money out of you.

ps: you dont know me either and the last time i spent $30 into the game was at easter and before that when maria came out. now for someone who feels as easy offended as you are, you seem to be very judgmental and somewhat offensive, maybe you should take a good look into the mirror before you assume

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Originally Posted by weldon41880_3837036

Warcraft, one of the most active games in the world, has a very busy trade system which works great. you can buy and sell most items, although some of course you cant. No one accuses WOw players of cheating by using the auction house. Everyone does it and works fine. Sure, some people choose to spend huge amounts of time farming stuff to later sell, and yes they accumulate large amounts of gold, but thats their choice and hey they put the time in and they deserve it. I agree with Emerald Collins, stop whining about it, lets do it.

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lineage2, wow, LOL, starcraft, ... you name it, they have trade. also busy customer service sorting out accusations, cheats, etc from other players. daily shouts filled with insults, scammers not trading you the item you hoped for, etc are just a few things to mention. it is a fact that when you open up the ability to trade you also open up the doors for the ones who will take advantage, who cheat and exploit.
biggest fear in this game is trading things from alts to their main accounts and making it even more desirable to have as many alts as possible.
again, do a search for this on the forum and you will understand

I sorry but what a crock, thats a poor excuse for not wanting a trading system. Cheaters, they are here and will be forever.
Manipulating the trading system is easily overcome by setting a limit to number of trades or value of trade per day/week.
Plus theres no need to trade ptp, they could make the system so you have to trade to and from tynon for set values.
Player A trade to tynon player B buys, values set by tynon dependant on how many are being bought/sold.

I wish we could sell stuff back to the NPC for an appropriate price (in particular the mounts). i now have 3 in my "stable" that just sit there and the 4th is about 800k away.
so you think you can overcome it by limit of trading, thats what ucool tried by limiting the daily revenges/PVP's to 10 and yet they still farm alts and it did nothing. i wish i could trade with my daughter who recently started, "sell" her some cheap stuff for 1 coin each or have her charge me 3B for a speaker so she can stock up her runes, but thats not gonna happen either

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not only you and your husband would take advantage of that but also many other cheaters

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you stated my husband and I would take advantage and also other cheaters. in the english language that is lumping both my husband and myself in with cheaters as in your estimation taking advantage is what cheaters do.

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now about the "unfair" advantage you are speaking about you not being able to afford to afford gems: tough luck and if you havent noticed, the game is designed that way to suck the money out of you.

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I never said anything about myself not being able to afford to buy gems everyday I was simply stating that some believe it to be an unfair advantage because they can't afford to. I also said that is life; the way of the world. If you somehow got this suggestion from another post which I stated I won 1000 gems off the wheel when I hadn't spent any money for gems except $4.99 newbie package, then you make an assumption that since that time I've not spent another dime on the game. Maybe your the one reading into things.

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you seem to be very judgmental and somewhat offensive

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absolutely when you start right off calling me a cheater or stating i would take advantage of something because I made a suggestion. if you don't agree that is your option just because I believe it would make the game better doesn't mean I intend to exploit it. I've not exploited the trading in any other game. I've always been fair with pricing things.

The whole purpose of trading or bartering is for what you need. It's been happening since the world began and there will always be people who take advantage of it. Honestly I don't find that a very good argument for not having it. Why have electricity so the monopolies of power companies can charge what they want and take advantage of people? Oh wait, don't they have laws that regulate how much they can increase? Hm, think ucool might be able to do that? Yes, I think so. Someone already suggested it and it's a good idea

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Originally Posted by BrasiBytch_1325951

you stated my husband and I would take advantage and also other cheaters. in the english language that is lumping both my husband and myself in with cheaters as in your estimation taking advantage is what cheaters do.

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From your answer I'm presuming you are either the said husband or wife since you (or your spouse) answered this question from two different accounts. Personally I think you have taken it entirely out of context. No one accused you of cheating just explaining why your idea won't be implemented.

This idea has been suggested so many times I should have charged a $1 a time. I'll be rich, yippee!!
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Seriously though uCool have said on occasion that trading will not happen since it'll encourage ToS violations. No one disagrees with you as you have said it makes perfect sense. However, alts have already started damaging the game.

Alt problem aside... I'd say there still are a bunch of ways to abuse a trading system (course it wouldn't be abuse if it was allowed, but still might not be fair). I could for example lend my stuff to people and get several people in my guild their second slot. It'll start to be a game where you can't play on your own and you'll need a bunch of people you trust to get ahead (along with drama, scams... etc). It just makes everything a completely different game.

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

From your answer I'm presuming you are either the said husband or wife since you (or your spouse) answered this question from two different accounts.

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its actually the same person (unless its a married gay couple). because he/she said:

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Originally Posted by BrasiBytch_1325951

you stated my husband and I would take advantage and also other cheaters. in the english language that is lumping both my husband and myself in with cheaters as in your estimation taking advantage is what cheaters do.

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now to answer on the accusations again, not that i care aor give a flying [...] about it, but just because i feel like defending myself against this flamer:
english is my 3rd language and i speak it fairly well along with 4 other languages (yes you genius, thats 5 total). i have no problems living in a bi-lingual country now and having prior lived in europe for 24 years. i have corrected the above said and made it fairly clear that i didnt accuse you of cheating but implied you would be exploiting along with the other cheaters if there would be trade implemented into the game.

however i would like to thank you.
i would like to thank you to confirm the "why-there-is-no-trade-in-the-game"-factor: because of people like you. see, there is no trade and only the thought about it and the possibility of rejecting ("your great idea") makes you argue, flame and insult.
you are the personified reason why there should be no trading in this game

the idea is cool, but i agree you may not take advantage of it but many will. Many who spend lots of money will make alts only to trade out things they want from their characters, this could make it extremely difficult for others who can't afford to do this. giving some members so much power its impossible to play the game. I've seen so many servers die by finding out ways to cheat the system. This would only make it worse.

i actually suggest that no more than one acct can be made on one server at a time, alts have been used to exploit the game I've seen those that build up alts only to revenge them for coins and creds, maps etc for themselves. giving them the advantage over others. This is just my opinion though.

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Originally Posted by ChaoticVixxen_9003181

i actually suggest that no more than one acct can be made on one server at a time, alts have been used to exploit the game I've seen those that build up alts only to revenge them for coins and creds, maps etc for themselves. giving them the advantage over others. This is just my opinion though.

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no its not just your opinion,thats in the Terms Of Service (TOS), u'd be surprised what else is in there...

What I meant by that is one acct per ip address per server...there's no block that tynon has so it allows players to make more and more accts

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Originally Posted by ChaoticVixxen_9003181

What I meant by that is one acct per ip address per server...there's no block that tynon has so it allows players to make more and more accts

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that wouldnt make sense since we are in a time of WIFI, clouds, variable IP's, hot spots and bubbles.

it wouldnt hurt either...wifi still has the same IP address ...and you can make a portable hot spot but its a pain and its hard to play this game on one, I know i've tried..yes there are way around it..but then it would cut down alts either way, bc there would be those that are not willing to put that much effort in to going around the system by finding other ip address constantly to change accts. So it actually does make sense..just because you can think and name everyway someone could change it doesnt mean everyone else will. Its a damn better start then what's happening now, unless you have a better idea?

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Originally Posted by ChaoticVixxen_9003181

it wouldnt hurt either...wifi still has the same IP address ...and you can make a portable hot spot but its a pain and its hard to play this game on one, I know i've tried..yes there are way around it..but then it would cut down alts either way, bc there would be those that are not willing to put that much effort in to going around the system by finding other ip address constantly to change accts. So it actually does make sense..just because you can think and name everyway someone could change it doesnt mean everyone else will. Its a damn better start then what's happening now, unless you have a better idea?

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email confirmations.
it wouldnt solve the problem but make it a lot harder to create several alts or even hundrets

takes less than 1 minute to create a vaild email address, i had around 100 when i played another game for noobing

Player to Tynon trading= good idea. Player to player trading= not so good

Neopets, Villagers & Heros, and Wizards101 all have superb, simple, and error-free trading tools; these activities allow players to expand their "friend's lists", create deeper relationships, and develop their characters respectfully. They are fun to use and contribute to the over-all excitement of the games.

In my opinion, cheaters are anyone that has multiple accounts on a game, with the main reason to benefit one primary/original character; this includes "alternate characters/players/heros" of any kind.
I have not read each and every word of the "player's code of conduct & responsibilities" on all the sites I play, but I do know most strickly PROHIBIT multiple accounts; however, Tynon must allow "alts", because I once *belonged to a guild that constantly talked about, promoted, and bragged about their "alts".

*=(details to be posted in another topic... something titled about "GUILDS").

My vote...YES!.. there's too many positives for everyone involved, i.e. :
* site owners - increase player online time & a player's real-life spending for the site
* devs - job security, programming and site monitoring
* players - another avenue for players to obtain necessary items for a character's stats/abilities improvements
- the learning/practicing with r-l things like:
%-percentages
taxes, sur-charges, bartering, commerce, & respect for values
* non-players - less time listening to "players" daily events 8)


<<<<the negative side>>>>

brb

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Originally Posted by email_free_600875

[...]I have not read each and every word of the "player's code of conduct & responsibilities" on all the sites I play, but I do know most strickly PROHIBIT multiple accounts; however, Tynon must allow "alts", because I once *belonged to a guild that constantly talked about, promoted, and bragged about their "alts".[...]

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no need to read the "EULA, TOS, COC," or whatever they are called from every other website but it would have helped to read tynons TOS that you agreed on or at least read the few previous posts where you posted your redundant comments.
also if you would actually care as you say then you should have taken screenshots of them bragging about their alts and reported that to customer service... but you did a great job in dropping the ball on every possible aspect.