CWF powering down not a bad idea!

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08-26-2014, 08:55 PM
davidschlebusch_6020359

CWF powering down not a bad idea!

So I just fought Scorn in CWF and I must say thank you for trying to give a slight opportunity even though he still had 96% hp left :rolleyes:

Game 1: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4342863
Game 2: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4343914
Game 3: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4345030

I hear and see how many people complain about throwing fights and how it 'defeats' the purpose of cwf to see who is strongest.
You all talk about how much these top players with the rewards at the end of CWF are hitting the ceiling so quickly.
I see you all talk about how it messes with the betting system.
IMO, I think that it is good for 'top players' to give 'smaller players' the opportunity to try to perform better by 'powering down' for them, even if it defeats the purpose of the tournament.
With the 'top players' hitting the ceiling so quickly, imo I think that it is quite nice that they 'throw' the fights for others in the later stages of the tournament and give someone else the chance to get better rewards.
I don't care how it messes with the 'betting system', as long as other players get the chance to get rewards and catch up, it would be nice for a change.
Besides I don't have a chance on CWF and will NEVER have a chance in CWF.

PS: I know it's only the first stages of this current CWF...
08-26-2014, 11:04 PM
g346007_1906957

Wat

Messing up everyone's betting is ok because one person almost got a couple hundred more tickets? Out of all the reason to throw a fight (and I do accept one of them)... this one was the least thought through.
08-27-2014, 01:01 AM
andreas_lundqvist_2696027

people dont complain that someone downpower vs a lower power its that they power down vs eachother
08-27-2014, 06:18 AM
kaisim_2492829

there is peeps who are bidding during preliminaries? lol
08-27-2014, 06:20 AM
andreasl187_6103403

i sure hope not or i been missing out :p
08-27-2014, 07:06 AM
Herby

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359

So I just fought Scorn in CWF and I must say thank you for trying to give a slight opportunity even though he still had 96% hp left :rolleyes:

Game 1: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4342863
Game 2: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4343914
Game 3: http://www.tynon.com/replays/4345030

I hear and see how many people complain about throwing fights and how it 'defeats' the purpose of cwf to see who is strongest.
You all talk about how much these top players with the rewards at the end of CWF are hitting the ceiling so quickly.
I see you all talk about how it messes with the betting system.
IMO, I think that it is good for 'top players' to give 'smaller players' the opportunity to try to perform better by 'powering down' for them, even if it defeats the purpose of the tournament.
With the 'top players' hitting the ceiling so quickly, imo I think that it is quite nice that they 'throw' the fights for others in the later stages of the tournament and give someone else the chance to get better rewards.
I don't care how it messes with the 'betting system', as long as other players get the chance to get rewards and catch up, it would be nice for a change.
Besides I don't have a chance on CWF and will NEVER have a chance in CWF.

PS: I know it's only the first stages of this current CWF...

No one bids on prelims.

Scorn only powered down so he can get into a different bracket.
08-27-2014, 09:52 AM
davidschlebusch_6020359

I perfectly understand that no one bids during preliminaries and specifically said how this kind of thing will mess with the betting system at the LATER STAGES OF CWF.
And whether or not Scorn only powered down to get into a different bracket made me think that perhaps in the later stages of the tournament that it would be nice that people who are hitting the ceiling to quickly to throw a fight or two for someone else to catch up to where they are.
You may need to choose one person to go with and bet the other one, several times in the finals has this got me +3000 tickets in one fight, so consider this people should be able to do what they like in CWF, you just need to change the tactics in the way you are betting.
Of course this is just all my opinion...
08-27-2014, 11:12 AM
jrrtolley_7332441

Its unlikely that Scorn would power down for CW prelims, why should he? and seeing as he wins it quite often he has no need to try to get into a different category.
What more than likely happens is that he, like many others cannot be bothered to sit at his computer for 2 hours while the prelims are happening. I certainly don't. Why waste 2 hours of quality evening time playing a game that no longer holds any interest because the Developers do nothing. I qualify in top 16 without bothering to change form so there is no way I'm missing primetime television. I also know I can't win and rarely make top 8 so mostly don't even bother with the later stages any more.

Lets face it, at or near the top the game is pointless, boring and a total waste of time.
08-27-2014, 12:56 PM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by jrrtolley_7332441

Its unlikely that Scorn would power down for CW prelims, why should he?

to get easier oponents
08-27-2014, 01:38 PM
jrrtolley_7332441

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

to get easier oponents

That's just silly. He doesn't need easier opponents. He can win CW with very little effort so he doesn't need to get easier opponents. There is nobody can beat him.
08-27-2014, 01:49 PM
davidschlebusch_6020359

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Originally Posted by jrrtolley_7332441

That's just silly. He doesn't need easier opponents. He can win CW with very little effort so he doesn't need to get easier opponents. There is nobody can beat him.

Except for Wildflower from time to time
Say, what ever happened to Maynon? Haven't seen him for last couple of tournaments..
08-27-2014, 08:07 PM
jrrtolley_7332441

I don't accuse others of breaking the ToS so Morgan won't edit my posts . He got fed up with lack of new content and he had won the first few CW with little challenge. There was nothing left for him to do.
08-29-2014, 09:17 PM
Scorn

Herby, you might be onto something. :)
08-29-2014, 09:30 PM
mparton_1280808

THERE ARE NO BRACKETS !! uCool have no idea how to run any kind of seeding system. eg myself v Blayd, in Knockout 5, so early... 1st and 3rd place prelim finishers.
08-29-2014, 09:54 PM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by mparton_1280808

THERE ARE NO BRACKETS !! uCool have no idea how to run any kind of seeding system. eg myself v Blayd, in Knockout 5, so early... 1st and 3rd place prelim finishers.

ROTFL! should have tried to beat him the last time when you had the chance.
but hey, the good news is now you can power down again so you dont beat him by "accident" hahahahahaha
and btw: last CW where you actually made it into the finals, didnt blayd beat avalaria in the very same KO5?
08-29-2014, 11:33 PM
ChickenWing

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Originally Posted by mparton_1280808

THERE ARE NO BRACKETS !! uCool have no idea how to run any kind of seeding system. eg myself v Blayd, in Knockout 5, so early... 1st and 3rd place prelim finishers.

u mad bro? serves you well for totally wiping me out in KO4 :P
08-30-2014, 10:24 AM
jrrtolley_7332441

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Originally Posted by jrrtolley_7332441

I don't accuse others of breaking the ToS so Morgan won't edit my posts . He got fed up with lack of new content and he had won the first few CW with little challenge. There was nothing left for him to do.

Ooops, apologies Morgan. That one I wasn't aware of. I still can't find it when I look at ToS. lol
08-30-2014, 02:23 PM
Riot

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Originally Posted by mparton_1280808

THERE ARE NO BRACKETS !! uCool have no idea how to run any kind of seeding system. eg myself v Blayd, in Knockout 5, so early... 1st and 3rd place prelim finishers.

I agree, the seeding seemed a but off this week. I fought both Fluer and Ava in the early KO rounds. Would be more interesting if we were more towards the end.

Sorry for your loss, but you are getting tougher each week to beat
08-30-2014, 04:50 PM
ChickenWing

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Originally Posted by Riot

I agree, the seeding seemed a but off this week. I fought both Fluer and Ava in the early KO rounds. Would be more interesting if we were more towards the end.

Sorry for your loss, but you are getting tougher each week to beat

The point of the tournament is to find the best player, not the second best or thrid best. It doesn't matter when the second and third best are out of competition, the best player should still finish on top.

Having the bigger players fight earlier is good for the other challengers. It allows them to make it further in the tournament and collect more tickets. I really don't care if Fleur and Avalaria got eliminated before the finals, and nothing ever stated that they should get to the finals every CWF.

That being said, there is a reason why you all fought one another before the finals while many 200M-500M players made it far in the tournament. Herby said it: brackets.

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Originally Posted by mparton_1280808

THERE ARE NO BRACKETS !! uCool have no idea how to run any kind of seeding system. eg myself v Blayd, in Knockout 5, so early... 1st and 3rd place prelim finishers.

And this shows you don't understand what is meant by brackets.
08-30-2014, 05:15 PM
Andy

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Originally Posted by ChickenWing

The point of the tournament is to find the best player, not the second best or thrid best. It doesn't matter when the second and third best are out of competition, the best player should still finish on top.

Having the bigger players fight earlier is good for the other challengers. It allows them to make it further in the tournament and collect more tickets. I really don't care if Fleur and Avalaria got eliminated before the finals, and nothing ever stated that they should get to the finals every CWF.

That being said, there is a reason why you all fought one another before the finals while many 200M-500M players made it far in the tournament. Herby said it: brackets.

And this shows you don't understand what is meant by brackets.

I disagree. All players that make it into the round of 8 get rewards so it is not only the players that finish on the top 3 that matter. When I face one of the top players on the early knock-out rounds and then some one that is 200 mil power lower than me that I could easily beat makes it into the round of 8, I am potentially missing out on rewards This happened to me on the last 3 CWFs. In one of them a player that I had a fairly good chance of beating made it into the quarter finals. Also, if one of the top players is knocked early, like Fleur did this week, he does not get any rewards.

The way that seeding and bracket assignments are supposed to work is that the on the first round the first seed faces the last seed, the 2nd seed faces the next to the last seed, and so on. The backrests are set up so that the top seeds do not face each other until the later rounds. Look at any bracketing system, and you can find several on the net, and you can see how this is done.
08-30-2014, 06:04 PM
ChickenWing

When Dawnseeker talked about introducing brackets, what he meant was that low powers would fight low powers, and high powers would fight high powers. Brackets to separate low powers from high powers so that everyone can actually enjoy CWF.
08-30-2014, 07:48 PM
kaisim_2492829

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChickenWing

The point of the tournament is to find the best player, not the second best or thrid best. It doesn't matter when the second and third best are out of competition, the best player should still finish on top.

Having the bigger players fight earlier is good for the other challengers. It allows them to make it further in the tournament and collect more tickets. I really don't care if Fleur and Avalaria got eliminated before the finals, and nothing ever stated that they should get to the finals every CWF.

That being said, there is a reason why you all fought one another before the finals while many 200M-500M players made it far in the tournament. Herby said it: brackets.

And this shows you don't understand what is meant by brackets.

i agree with this and there is a valid point in lower power players making it into the top 8 while other top players get knocked out from the top player. you all where crying about brackets but when you get something similar to it (i dont think it was matched on purpose or anything actually changed) you start crying again that you get knocked out early. thats what you get when you have brackets then at the end the top players of all brackets play against each other. if you dont like that, well then you dont like brackets. you cant have it both ways.

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Originally Posted by Andy

I disagree. All players that make it into the round of 8 get rewards so it is not only the players that finish on the top 3 that matter. When I face one of the top players on the early knock-out rounds and then some one that is 200 mil power lower than me that I could easily beat makes it into the round of 8, I am potentially missing out on rewards This happened to me on the last 3 CWFs. In one of them a player that I had a fairly good chance of beating made it into the quarter finals. Also, if one of the top players is knocked early, like Fleur did this week, he does not get any rewards.

The way that seeding and bracket assignments are supposed to work is that the on the first round the first seed faces the last seed, the 2nd seed faces the next to the last seed, and so on. The backrests are set up so that the top seeds do not face each other until the later rounds. Look at any bracketing system, and you can find several on the net, and you can see how this is done.

your system would assume that the top 4 power players are set up (into the oposite corners of the trees) to not face each other until the finals and will only play each other if one doesnt get knocked out early. however if you have a bracket system that categorizes players by power then the winners of each category will face each other in the quarter finals. so you are talking about different systems here and can only combine them if someone actually takes out the random factor entire and takes the time to completely set it up by power and brackets.

so you have to make reductions somewhere and if you randomize it so the top players face each other before the finals then so be it. i have faced for example kungfumonk last CW in the preliminaries and in the knock outs won both matches. this time again, won the preliminaries but lost the KO round battle. great matchup even tho he got almost 200m more power than i have. i dont cry about it. when avalaria, bubba, etc gets knocked out by blayd they dont cry about it, but for some reason all the drama starts over fleur... i dont get it. he knows he is not the best, not the second or 3rd best. but he knows he got a small chance at it unless he powers down... thats what this is really about and not about random players, top players or whoever making it or not making it into the finals.
its about crybabies and sore loosers.