Need Khan sainting advice

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08-27-2014, 10:58 PM
perawind_8762856

Need Khan sainting advice

Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given :)

Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?
08-28-2014, 12:38 AM
Riot

No, No, No.

Block and Dodge saints are nice to have on kahn to beat EZK, but not necessary and so I would not waste all that coins to transfer back and fourth.

to beat him, what you need are level 12 runes and massive black smith armor with high life. It also applies to Queen P. Then load up your Damage hero Lance behind Queen P and you are set. No need to put a thing on Herja and all you need on Flav is minimal set to ensure he has good morale and decent stars (past 7) with decent runes.

Good luck.
08-28-2014, 03:39 AM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given :)

Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?

first of all before i give my 2 cents:
the stats you will transfer are randomized and you have no influence at all on them. meaning if you transfer a AA5 dawn then you will get a AA1 ezK with random sancts.
that should have answered your following questions all at once, but if there is any doubt then any sancts are nice to have on khan, defensive and attack. if you decide to remove sancts then you should remove first sancts like not so usefull blue (but remember, mostly 2x blue = gold), magic resist and morale. any other especially crit and block are usefull.

to your edit: i have a +14 block on my khan, the others are defense and a skill one.
thing is, if you cant beat him now then your saints may help but will not be the relevant factor to tip the game unless you get something crazy like +75 resist and +90 crit or so...

PS: i suggest to check the forum about ezk, there is some forms and other advice you can use and here is some more andy is doing a great job collecting them and keeping the index up to date
08-28-2014, 04:21 AM
g346007_1906957

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

first of all before i give my 2 cents:
the stats you will transfer are randomized and you have no influence at all on them. meaning if you transfer a AA5 dawn then you will get a AA1 ezK with random sancts.
that should have answered your following questions all at once, but if there is any doubt then any sancts are nice to have on khan, defensive and attack. if you decide to remove sancts then you should remove first sancts like not so usefull blue (but remember, mostly 2x blue = gold), magic resist and morale. any other especially crit and block are usefull.

to your edit: i have a +14 block on my khan, the others are defense and a skill one.
thing is, if you cant beat him now then your saints may help but will not be the relevant factor to tip the game unless you get something crazy like +75 resist and +90 crit or so...

PS: i suggest to check the forum about ezk, there is some forms and other advice you can use and here is some more andy is doing a great job collecting them and keeping the index up to date

The point is, he could choose to redo them. Might be a good idea depending on the saints. Not just for block, dodge, and crit, but also for more gold depending on what he gets.
08-28-2014, 05:22 AM
FlandreScarlet_7896971

That would mean he would actually have to read the op's question instead of just giving his "two cents" as he usually does.

I wouldn't want to throw that many cards out there to have to do it again from what could be considered bad saints. Just hope for the best and take what you can get. as Riot said they're not absolute. they just add a nice bonus.

I like the name Zeks as well, gonna try to coin it ;)
08-28-2014, 03:52 PM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

The point is, he could choose to redo them. Might be a good idea depending on the saints. Not just for block, dodge, and crit, but also for more gold depending on what he gets.

he is not thinking about re-doing them, he is talking about his first transfer to khan so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan. so its you who hasnt read the OP...

@flandre stop cyberstalking me and talking non-sense in any post you can find where someone is disagreeing with something. you dont look smart doing it, are off-topic and no helpfull influence at all. i am not sure what i have done to you in the past but i can ensure you it was nothing personal and must have been something incredibly ... well know lol
08-28-2014, 07:23 PM
g346007_1906957

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

he is not thinking about re-doing them, he is talking about his first transfer to khan so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan. so its you who hasnt read the OP...

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Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.
08-28-2014, 08:26 PM
jkwongfl_7919855

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.

This ^
To the op, obviously the more crit/dodge/block saints the merrier, but I think having a couple all around should serve well enough for ezk. +75 in saints is unreasonable and unnecessary. If I got some in my first transfer, I probably wouldn't transfer back, but that's just me. I'm too poor to afford multiple transfers.

What you lack in saints is made up for in bs like riot said, but since you cant bs block/crit/dodge those are helpful to have.

I have a friend that just did his first transfer to khan and got like 6 mag def saints, and it kinda sucks. I'm still sainting my dawn for khan. Basically khan is a large investment for HR/quests/RC, so whatever you stick with make sure it works well (as im sure you know)
08-28-2014, 09:16 PM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

He's thinking about transferring back and forth until he gets the saints he wants.

no you are only reading what you want to read and take things out of context like a couple others here on the forum. before you join the bandwagon and make a fool out of yourself, he said:

Quote:

Originally Posted by perawind_8762856

Ok, so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan to fight Prophet Ezekiel, but I have a couple of questions regarding the saint results on Khan.

1. How important are dodge and block saints on Khan to beating Ezekiel? (assuming I already have level 12 nimble & resist runs)

2. If I do not roll dodge and block saints on Khan when I transfer, should I transfer them back to Dawn and repeat the process later on?

Thanks to all in advance to whatever advice I may be given :)

Edit: Small additional question. How many dodge & or block saints on Khan (in addition to the level 12 runes) do I need to be effective against Ezekiel?

so he is planning on transfering and asking about transfering back and forth until he gets what he wants if it doesnt go his way

... now back to the OP original questions, we all know that saints are usefull and can help a lot. kudos to jkwong for mentioning he is important in HR and quests even tho i believe that when he is at the point to tackle ezK he will most likely already have completed HR and quests or is at least close to doing so. if not then i suggest to complete your judgement sets first, add a couple sirius and then try again. it will make a huge difference, much bigger than what you can get from your saints.
08-28-2014, 09:52 PM
service_8572198

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

i believe that when he is at the point to tackle ezK he will most likely already have completed HR and quests or is at least close to doing so. if not then i suggest to complete your judgement sets first, add a couple sirius and then try again. it will make a huge difference, much bigger than what you can get from your saints.

beating ezek has no relation to finishing HR or quest in the slightest
i beat ezek about a month ago, and he was a doddle compared to 2nd malme quest boss, which i still cant beat :(
08-28-2014, 11:39 PM
kaisim_2492829

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Originally Posted by service_8572198

beating ezek has no relation to finishing HR or quest in the slightest
i beat ezek about a month ago, and he was a doddle compared to 2nd malme quest boss, which i still cant beat :(

cant beat him either, but you did finish your HR i assume... and i said "or at least close to it" and that second quest boss is the last as i believe. lol so your point exactly being is....?
08-29-2014, 03:18 AM
g346007_1906957

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

so he is planning on transfering and asking about transfering back and forth until he gets what he wants if it doesnt go his way

That's correct (how is this any different from anything I said?)... anyways you said:

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

the stats you will transfer are randomized and you have no influence at all on them. meaning if you transfer a AA5 dawn then you will get a AA1 ezK with random sancts.
that should have answered your following questions all at once

and I thought you missed the part about retransferring since you only talked about removing saints.
08-29-2014, 05:09 AM
FlandreScarlet_7896971

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

he is not thinking about re-doing them, he is talking about his first transfer to khan so I plan on using the Dawnbringer to Khan transfer for bringing saints over to Khan. so its you who hasnt read the OP...

@flandre stop cyberstalking me and talking non-sense in any post you can find where someone is disagreeing with something. you dont look smart doing it, are off-topic and no helpfull influence at all. i am not sure what i have done to you in the past but i can ensure you it was nothing personal and must have been something incredibly ... well know lol

Also, for the main topic it still seems to me like he means to transfer back to dawn if he doesn't like the saints he got, then get dawn back to his goal and do the transfer again. Thats what i get from his post and am not the only one. He'll have to clarify for me to think otherwise
08-29-2014, 06:23 AM
service_8572198

My point was that u make too many assumptions, i personally wasnt close to finishing quest when i beat ezek
08-29-2014, 07:37 AM
kaisim_2492829

oh jeez flandre ... if there was common sense to fall from the sky you would still have to be beaten to accept it.
just because there is something you can twist and maybe blame on punctuation... i am not sure what your excuse is or if you are just trying to cover up being wrong or whatever it is, but you have to stop with the cyber stalking, flaming and trolling already. its not making you look smarter and you already seem to be ... oh well i cant say.

either way, i believe the OP's questions where answered and thx to your flaming and non sense this has become another topic you have put into ashes with your ignorance. time to close this to prevent you from posting even worse things and get yourself banned just because of your incapability of actually posting anything that is helpfull to others or even remotely answers the questions, without your trolling, flaming, etc...

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

[...]so he is planning on transfering and asking about transfering back and forth until he gets what he wants if it doesnt go his way[...]

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Originally Posted by FlandreScarlet_7896971

[...edited out the verbal throw-up...] Also, for the main topic it still seems to me like he means to transfer back to dawn if he doesn't like the saints he got, then get dawn back to his goal and do the transfer again. Thats what i get from his post and am not the only one. He'll have to clarify for me to think otherwise

no kidding you genius! thats exactly what was said, now please go pick up a lolly on your way out
08-31-2014, 01:33 AM
perawind_8762856

Thank you for the advice everyone.
08-31-2014, 12:40 PM
vandekop_693725

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Originally Posted by MisChief

Wow- more sparring with words in forum than battles in game. Game is so boring I think we all look here to vent. Behave and be nice, and (name excluded) climb off that pedestal, ev1 has an opinion and the right to put it in print, you don't like it - skip it.

Exactly. :)