The most interesting CW yet

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Originally Posted by MisChief

Exactly my point kaisim. The point was that hitting in HR, hidden or not, is part of the game as designed, and not an exploit of it's intent as Morgan said. Neither is robbing maps or sinking ships at sea.

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no you not getting it. i cant describe it into detail on this example without pointing out or discussing the bug (that is still not fixed!) but you need to understand that exploiting intended in-game mechanics like sinking the same player over and over again are part of the game and a bug that allows you to shorten your sail time is not. therefore sinking someone and letting a 3rd steal the map after powering down to sink that person again is part of the game. cheating by exploiting a bug to let you instantly finish the sail to not get sunk isnt.

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

no you not getting it. i cant describe it into detail on this example without pointing out or discussing the bug (that is still not fixed!) but you need to understand that exploiting intended in-game mechanics like sinking the same player over and over again are part of the game and a bug that allows you to shorten your sail time is not. therefore sinking someone and letting a 3rd steal the map after powering down to sink that person again is part of the game. cheating by exploiting a bug to let you instantly finish the sail to not get sunk isnt.

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The thing is Kaisim, "YOU" are the one not getting it.

It is NOT an exploit to lose a match or any round, purposefully or not when the game allows you to do so when there is no "RULE" stating you are not allowed to "not try your best" to win.

PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION.

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Originally Posted by Riot

The thing is Kaisim, "YOU" are the one not getting it.

It is NOT an exploit to lose a match or any round, purposefully or not when the game allows you to do so when there is no "RULE" stating you are not allowed to "not try your best" to win.

PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION.

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nope its not an exploit to loose a match, but loosing a match for a profit is

why is everyone so bothered ?

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

nope its not an exploit to loose a match, but loosing a match for a profit is

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Where does it state that?

In your self righteous mindset?

One can argue that everyone who bet on CWF made more tickets since they didn't have to "guess" and take chance losing the bet.

I would also argue that people made more chips through this process.

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Originally Posted by leenewma1971_4156646

why is everyone so bothered ?

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Good question.

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Originally Posted by Riot

Where does it state that?

In your self righteous mindset?

One can argue that everyone who bet on CWF made more tickets since they didn't have to "guess" and take chance losing the bet.

I would also argue that people made more chips through this process.

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yes, "your" people, but the other 800+ who didnt see your "pattern to win/loose" didnt

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

nope its not an exploit to loose a match, but loosing a match for a profit is

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lol but if blayd loses on purpose he cant make a profit on tickets correct me if im wrong

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

yes, "your" people, but the other 800+ who didnt see your "pattern to win/loose" didnt

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Who are "my people"?

No one from my guild was even on line when the CWF was going on because it is so late.

Also when I looked at the betting, everyone was betting correctly to me.

Keep in mind as the one who fights, I lose a hell of a lot more tickets for losing than to throw a fight. In the order of magnitude of almost 7k tickets per fight!

Again, you have to have the last word even though you are nonsensical.

Done with this post.

Look forward to more future fights similar to this. Have a good one.

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Originally Posted by leenewma1971_4156646

why is everyone so bothered ?

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I became very less bothered when every 2nd week we talk about the same crap over again.
Sorry to say but you people need to find new things to discuss about.
I'm bored with the game as it stands as I can't progress as quickly as everyone else does and now I'm getting bored with the forums and so are a lot of others!

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Originally Posted by leenewma1971_4156646

lol but if blayd loses on purpose he cant make a profit on tickets correct me if im wrong

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Definitely not wrong there lee!
Losing a match gives you less tickets from the opponent who won the match, unless depending on the amount of people who bet on you (the loser) has an influence on the amount of tickets you receive after each fight.

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Originally Posted by leenewma1971_4156646

lol but if blayd loses on purpose he cant make a profit on tickets correct me if im wrong

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definitely wrong.
he still gets the full amount of tickets when loosing and more if he was the underdog according to bidding and double if he wins. also his other accounts where he knows how to bid for will max the profit and all he has to do is farm them off after in form of coins he can redeem. also, he didnt loose the match, he won it but lost selected battles.

i am amazed that after all this you still doubt he is making profits from this lol

EDIT: think about it: IF he and/or fleur had no profit, WHY would fleur power down for 2-6 and he power down for battle 7-11 (and added 2 heroes in the 11th where i still assume he didnt get them in on time) to then WIN the match? he has already admitted to this and the crown and chip excuses he has given dont fly anymore

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Originally Posted by Riot

Who are "my people"?

No one from my guild was even on line when the CWF was going on because it is so late.

Also when I looked at the betting, everyone was betting correctly to me.

Keep in mind as the one who fights, I lose a hell of a lot more tickets for losing than to throw a fight. In the order of magnitude of almost 7k tickets per fight!

Again, you have to have the last word even though you are nonsensical.

Done with this post.

Look forward to more future fights similar to this. Have a good one.

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i love arguing with you because you argue like a 10 yr old. you try to let the "inconvenient" facts drop under the table to make yourself look like the hero in shiny armor by clinging to straws. as for example you making more profit by farming your alts, that there is no rewards in this CW that would benefit your main account, that you admitted to fixing the matches, that you make no secrets in running other accounts, ..., etc... and then after you made your excuses, you then announce in public that you will be continuing to fix fights in the future. LOL!

IF you have no profit from this at all, why would you be doing it and find more and more excuses to do so?

Ugh... this is getting old. If anyone thinks that Blayd or Fleur are going against the TOS or whatever by using whatever exploit or bug, go ahead and report to support with all the proof you can find. If you have not reported it and have no plans to, then shut up. I am pretty sure almost everyone is getting tired of this.

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

i love arguing with you because you argue like a 10 yr old. you try to let the "inconvenient" facts drop under the table to make yourself look like the hero in shiny armor by clinging to straws. as for example you making more profit by farming your alts, that there is no rewards in this CW that would benefit your main account, that you admitted to fixing the matches, that you make no secrets in running other accounts, ..., etc... and then after you made your excuses, you then announce in public that you will be continuing to fix fights in the future. LOL!

IF you have no profit from this at all, why would you be doing it and find more and more excuses to do so?

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I make no profit from losing. Anyone who fights in CWF knows how the ticket reward system works.

You are a 10 y/o who insults people because you are in the wrong as usual.. and so there is no point in continuing this discussion.

I suggest you stop your rant.

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Originally Posted by Riot

I make no profit from losing. Anyone who fights in CWF knows how the ticket reward system works.

You are a 10 y/o who insults people because you are in the wrong as usual.. and so there is no point in continuing this discussion.

I suggest you stop your rant.

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Both sides are insulting (or trying to... what the heck... you copied his insult), but Kaisim's the one making sense here. If you make no profit, then why do it at all?

Edit: Didn't feel like making a new post, but 'arguing like a 10 y/o' is still a bit insulting.
Edit 2- Clarification: because 10 y/o's don't argue all that well

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Originally Posted by Riot

I make no profit from losing. Anyone who fights in CWF knows how the ticket reward system works.

You are a 10 y/o who insults people because you are in the wrong as usual.. and so there is no point in continuing this discussion.

I suggest you stop your rant.

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you keep on saying you are done talking about this and yet you dont stop defending yourself and finding more and more excuses for your wrongdoing. you say most bid on you and how it benefit everyone while in reality the ones who bid on fleur got the most tickets from this. you still avoiding the real questions about why you would power down in the first place and how your alts and friends would not profit from doing so.



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not that i dont appreciate the defense, but just for the record:

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

Both sides are insulting (or trying to... what the heck... you copied his insult)

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i actually said he is arguing like a 10 yr old. he is one trying to insult me calling me one and putting words into my mouth (figural speaking) that i insult "people" in general when i am wrong (not just him) and implying that he is right and i am wrong. that now are manipulative tactics.

I thought is was great! Easy to figure out who would win next , lots of tickets...keep up the good Riot/Fluer.

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Originally Posted by Lucky_7906815

I thought is was great! Easy to figure out who would win next , lots of tickets...keep up the good Riot/Fluer.

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I do not know about you, but neither the power level at the bottom of the toons nor the number of heroes when clicking on the toons changes for me during the final. Riot always showed 3 heroes and Fleur 1. I tried refreshing and it did not help. At least this time it was somewhat consistent in what they did, so I only missed out on the 7th battle.

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Originally Posted by Andy

I do not know about you, but neither the power level at the bottom of the toons nor the number of heroes when clicking on the toons changes for me during the final. Riot always showed 3 heroes and Fleur 1. I tried refreshing and it did not help. At least this time it was somewhat consistent in what they did, so I only missed out on the 7th battle.

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Same for me, showed the same form up ea time. And just so ironic that now we bet on who's throwing which battle rather than who will win. LOL I know it's not illegal, but just something wrong with this picture.
A community service guy that won't come on forum, Dev's that don't seem to be in any hurry to keep the game in tact and running. Events that are so outdated it is a total waste, such as Wed. chests. Events that have been adjusted to fit the needs of players by players, such as Heaven's Palace. Now CW that is nothing more than the feedbag to the biggest spenders. Sigh ... and empty servers all over.

I'm sad, I had high hopes.

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Originally Posted by Andy

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Originally Posted by Lucky_7906815

I thought is was great! Easy to figure out who would win next , lots of tickets...keep up the good Riot/Fluer.

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I do not know about you, but neither the power level at the bottom of the toons nor the number of heroes when clicking on the toons changes for me during the final. Riot always showed 3 heroes and Fleur 1. I tried refreshing and it did not help. At least this time it was somewhat consistent in what they did, so I only missed out on the 7th battle.

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lol you missed its the first post from someones brand new alt thats just been created and wasnt even created before the recent CW yet (my money is on blayd on this one lol).

either way you are right about it not refreshing and we all had the same problem. also everything i said before about this and "easy guessing" and "no profit for either" etc all still applies. we have been served and get ready for the same exploit next CW. i am expecting more players to quit over this pathetic farce that used to be the last interesting point of this game.

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Originally Posted by Andy

I do not know about you, but neither the power level at the bottom of the toons nor the number of heroes when clicking on the toons changes for me during the final. Riot always showed 3 heroes and Fleur 1. I tried refreshing and it did not help. At least this time it was somewhat consistent in what they did, so I only missed out on the 7th battle.

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It was mentioned in a post before, but just in case, what you saw what their server form rather than their CW form. Sometimes the power displays change I think?... hasn't worked for me always, but my guildies normally catch it.

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Originally Posted by g346007_1906957

It was mentioned in a post before, but just in case, what you saw what their server form rather than their CW form. Sometimes the power displays change I think?... hasn't worked for me always, but my guildies normally catch it.

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On the one before this I could actually see them adding and removing heroes from the formation bu clicking on the toon every 10 seconds or so. Something changed this time around.

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Originally Posted by Andy

On the one before this I could actually see them adding and removing heroes from the formation bu clicking on the toon every 10 seconds or so. Something changed this time around.

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yes we all where able to see it. this time it just didnt update. i refreshed multiple times, kept on clicking but nothing. so i simply bet on fleur the first 10 matches and blayd the 11th (thought they would pull another power switch off).
one of my guild mates pointed out that it may have not updated simply because they where doing it last second but i dont believe its true. i think it simply bugged out or is server lag related

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

yes we all where able to see it. this time it just didnt update. i refreshed multiple times, kept on clicking but nothing. so i simply bet on fleur the first 10 matches and blayd the 11th (thought they would pull another power switch off).
one of my guild mates pointed out that it may have not updated simply because they where doing it last second but i dont believe its true. i think it simply bugged out or is server lag related

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When you click on the person, it only shows the lineup that they have within the game itself, not in CWF.

CWF lineup is based on the whole 12 heroes of a player. They can have heroes in their CWF formation that are not in the 5 heroes you see when you click on them.


However, CWF formation is different than in-game formation.

Therefore, when they remove heroes from CWF formation, the 5 hero lineups when you click on them do not change.

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Originally Posted by Herby

When you click on the person, it only shows the lineup that they have within the game itself, not in CWF.

CWF lineup is based on the whole 12 heroes of a player. They can have heroes in their CWF formation that are not in the 5 heroes you see when you click on them.


However, CWF formation is different than in-game formation.

Therefore, when they remove heroes from CWF formation, the 5 hero lineups when you click on them do not change.

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i would then assume it's bugged out of following reasons:
- when i have a form in CW and not change it but send the heroes to my inn, they are also removed from the CW lineup without updating formation
- last CW we where able to see the players remove and add heroes when we clicked on the form in the CW screen
- when i change my form in-game during the CW it does not change on the CW screen (unless i send heroes to the inn) if someone clicks on my avatar

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Originally Posted by Herby

When you click on the person, it only shows the lineup that they have within the game itself, not in CWF.

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That is an answer I would only expect from a Dev, anyway I'm just grateful that rest of us have a real life because the top players must only be playing this game to get to the point that they are playing with each other alone.

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Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817

That is an answer I would only expect from a Dev, anyway I'm just grateful that rest of us have a real life because the top players must only be playing this game to get to the point that they are playing with each other alone.

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Sorry that was a bit sarcastic it's Saturday nite and I've been partying........

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Originally Posted by Lucky_7906815

I thought is was great! Easy to figure out who would win next , lots of tickets...keep up the good Riot/Fluer.

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you got it, Lucky !!!

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Originally Posted by mparton_1280808

you got it, Lucky !!!

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YAY \o/ to the alt

LMFAO and ROTFL!!!!


ps: just waiting on the lucky response, something like this "i am not an alt and yes this was truly my first post" hahahahhahahahahahahahaha

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

ps: just waiting on the lucky response, something like this "i am not an alt and yes this was truly my first post" hahahahhahahahahahahahaha

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have the mod check which ip he posted from and match it up. maybe its yours?

Here we go again. New week of CW... any head's up on who's throwing what? And, if you see me, can you lose so I can make it past the round of 8? Thanks!!! It can be my b'day present. :D

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Originally Posted by MisChief

Here we go again. New week of CW... any head's up on who's throwing what? And, if you see me, can you lose so I can make it past the round of 8? Thanks!!! It can be my b'day present. :D

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I have a bad chip FYI...

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Originally Posted by MisChief

Here we go again. New week of CW... any head's up on who's throwing what? And, if you see me, can you lose so I can make it past the round of 8? Thanks!!! It can be my b'day present. :D

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~giggling~

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Originally Posted by Riot

I have a bad chip FYI...

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:D great. Is there a good one left for you? >.< LOL

Well the good news is who ever win's this time is refunded all of the gems they have ever spent in the game.....................


The bad news is they loose all of their armour, runes and experience and have to start over............


Or is that really a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by Riot

have the mod check which ip he posted from and match it up. maybe its yours?

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LOL! and i bet its yours.
besides, there is variable IP's, different computers etc and dont know what else you do to hide your alts, so i dont think the IP would be your best excuse to "not it"

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Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829

LOL! and i bet its yours.
besides, there is variable IP's, different computers etc and dont know what else you do to hide your alts, so i dont think the IP would be your best excuse to "not it"

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You surely must have an IQ of a chimpanzee. It's not an insult to you, just stating a mere factual linkage.

Just to clarify, it's neither of yours. So unless you want me to do some hardcore modding can I politely ask Mr Riot and Mr Kaisim to stop bickering.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay

Just to clarify, it's neither of yours. So unless you want me to do some hardcore modding can I politely ask Mr Riot and Mr Kaisim to stop bickering.

Thank you

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no worries i am done with him. his latest insulting post defending his "pretend insults" did it for me. it just showed me me how this individual not only is trying to escape the gutter he is trapped in, but also how his childish mind works. him already calling the throwing of the CW that hasnt even started yet because of his chips excuse is so lame.
especially since he is currently at the level where he is combining those chips regardless what color they are. so he is clearly using excuses again and as long as ucool is not only tolerating his exploiting of the betting system along with other game rules and his behavior but also rewarding it, there will be just more players running away and with his IQ (that seems lower than the IQ of oatmeal) he will not realize that at the end when there is no one left to play with he simply wasted his money.
it rather seems pathetic for him complaining about other players leaving and blaming the game not improving on opponents enough when he himself is one of the main reasons for driving them away.