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try soulight, server 10 ..... they have full 120 sir gear except the 3rd subs gear (sir lvl85-115), maxxed out runes including a third set ready. they are now just going thru the motions so to speak..Quote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
I am unfortunately unable to view the levels of Soulight's Prophet Ezekiel's staff and spirit. Until that is lvl 120 as well please give me another name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borentar_4092384
My point is almost proven! ;)
you do realize that VIP12 got no more blacksmith downtimer and the speed to full 120 is only determined by the cashflow? so the second a player complains about nothing to be able to spend his coins on, should be safe to assume he is maxedQuote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
soul has a lvl 120 staff + spirit in bank, as proph needs neither to do his job, why bother to put it on when (if) sub 3 gets unlocked the 120 staff and spirit will go on the extra that is put in (most prob maria)....
all proph needs is the staff upgraded, levelling it does nothing...same as giving herja/maria/shayd blue chips...
were the level 0 staff and spirit not a clue that it was put on there on purpose?
Borentar!Quote:
Originally Posted by Borentar_4092384
I believe you, but the point I'm making is that there is no proof with 'no' hard evidence in which I can ALSO see for myself!
honestly, who cares? i mean i know where you are coming from and what you are trying to say, but if someone got all weapons/spirits/armor on 120 but ezK's, then thats for me maxed gear right there. the way i see it is you can spend your coins on a lot of c..p (like overcharge runes) but to have your gear maxed for functionality on ezK then you only need a +0 sirus staff/spirit.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
again, i have to point out that VIP12 do not have a blacksmith cooldown. so if he/she got the coins then they can make it almost instantly 120 (or as fast as they can click "upgrade").
if you on the other hand would tell me that there is a basic account owner or for example a VIP4 with all gear maxed, then i would hesitate and wanted to see it.
Unless they are a sheik in the Opec system I highly doubt you will find a LVL 12 VIP player in this game. Chances are Riot and others such as Myself are only VIP 9-10 I know because I am a VIP 10 which depending on the sale's from the start will run you between 7-10K in cash (yes I spend because I have fun, no other reason and I can afford it no credit card needed). To get from LVL 10 to 11 VIP you have to purchase 300,000 gems aka on basics's $22,500 and that is just to LVL 11 from 10 on VIP. As far as gear goes yes I have everything up to lvl 120 except 2 staff's one is at 103 and the other is at 90.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
Ya i seriously doubt there is anyone at vip12. At the same time it is obviously players like blayd have had there equipment maxed for some time. If i had to guess there are about 6 or 7 players in the US servers with max gear.
I'm only a vip 1, yes impressive, I know right! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
I have a lot of equipment +40 on judgement with the odd ends such as spirits swords and relics around 50 and 60. My one sword is lvl 87 and 3 of my talents at lvl 112 are maxed. It's a very slow process when you actually don't have the money to spend on something which is 'virtual' as it has a dooms day and you gain no real benefit (Others can do as they wish with their money!). My equipment will get there eventually but as Dawnseeker once said: "You don't have to pay to play this game."
That's awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
i was under the impression that riot is a VIP12 along with a couple others...Quote:
Originally Posted by becalvert_1151817
I can assure you he is not a vip12, Ive spent 10k and im around vip9 with 40k togo to 10, Riot did inform me that nobody in the game is v12 as it would take 50k my suggestions....Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
maxed gear vs non maxed. Heres your results.
http://www.tynon.com/replays/7560421 bubbaslap (will be getting spanked next cw)
http://www.tynon.com/replays/7465257 mattp no comment.
But i am 16 servers behind. thats about 16 weeks
OK, since I started this thread, can we "try" to remain on topic. If not, lol that's ok also. I keep checking in to see if anything related is there......
just to be clear, thats insane amounts of money and the thought of spending a small car into a flashgame makes me feel worried and laugh at the same time. we have a VIP10 on our server that is the living proof that you can have insane amounts of money and still really suck at the game ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by BGB
@sparta sorry that the flamewar you where hoping for didnt ignite, but dont give up hope they are still around. maybe they are just too busy for you right now milking their alts. one thing is certain though, even there is a lot of cheating going on and ucool is fully aware of it, the worst that happened to them so far is a temp ban and even [lol i am not calling them out] is still playing.
I dont like flamewars sir kasim of Forum Land. Just find it funny how so many people find it necessary to doubt everything and anything that is brought to attention. Just because they aren't envisioned enough or maybe care enough to be one that is a strong proponent of change for the good.Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
It's not just the Lab cheats, we have a guild in 120 that has received 6 cards from heaven tav, within seconds one right behind the other, and all their members do this on tues, we have taken snap shots, the guild has Cursed, Harassed, Threatened and Bullied other guilds, and tynon allows it, heck it's like this guild wants to make their own rules in our server, it's aggravating...........now we noticed that someone from their guild is hacking other guilds in our server, and tynon is still doing nothing.....
Did you ever think they may be buying them with tokens? I do that every Tues too. How do you "hack a guild"?Quote:
Originally Posted by BladeRunner_4828496
By simply sharing your account information!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisChief
I've said it before, I'll say it again and I'll say it forever until the topic of hacks is dropped!
NEVER EVER SHARE ACCOUNT INFORMATION!!!
...Should I perhaps emphasize this statement a little better?...
just to be clear on this... tokens = spirits, yes? ... and if so then i was thinking the same thing, especially since its tuesdaysQuote:
Originally Posted by MisChief
"received 6 cards from heaven tav, within seconds one right behind the other" Pmsl omg i am such a hacker with my 3 weeks spirit saving finishing in 17 lance cards 9 bloodstorm and 2 maria cards in a row (in seconds of each other i might add)
Some people these days...
That my friends is not hacking but predetermination on the side of the games mechanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borentar_4092384
The games mechanics favor some but be stingy to others and can eventually (few years) be vice versa!
lol dont do drugs kids or this is what happens....Quote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
ps@david: they are talking about redeeming herocards from tavern with spirits and the OP thinks they are hacking into tynon servers to get them
What predetermination?? You mean what Borentar_... said? HAHAHA It is so funny how some read comments to mean something totally different than the writer intended. Sometimes i save up 2/3 wks of spirits i have earned in tavern to get a load of cards to up saints. That is neither cheating or hacking. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
A few years?? whoa will this game be running? will anyone still be playing if it is? tune in 2018 and find out!! :D
This is where skim reading gets you, don't learn bad habits people! ;)
I had read you got those cards as if you shuffled and clicked onto each card and got the card you say you did! (Gathered you figured that...)
Saving the spirits over weeks is a good strategy which my whole server uses! (Thank you for the clarification Kaisim!) :)
Hmm, let me guess! Either Tynon are sharing their administration information or whoever is making these far-fetched absurd assumptions has some rather odd theories cooking upstairs!
@Tynon: NEVER EVER SHARE YOUR ADMINISTRATION INFORMATION!!!
...Should I also emphasize that one a little better? ;)
@Mischief: Talking about me reading "something totally different than the writer intended", the same goes for you! Perhaps you never got a whiff of my exaggeration (few years). Honestly, I shall be taken-aback if this game is still running by the end of this year! (Whoa, I don't want exaggerate or anything here!) ;)
lol yes david i meant by purchasing with spirits as did the accuser, tho i think (i hope) they were being sarcastic...it wasn't really a planned save, just forgotten to make a purchase for a few weeks... :P
predetermination was implemented in a patch for the tavern made specific to a hero. that means, before it was only predetermined if you will get a white, blue, purple or gold hero (much like its still with the guild chest) and on which draw. that resulted into players being able to change the hero by refreshing the browser and being able to pick the ones they desired. that has been changed so now it will predetermine a specific hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
thats about the only thing i never said lolQuote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
(i for example get roughly 20-30k spirits each week because our server is now almost deserted.
excuses, ... but still a nice safe thoQuote:
Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
My clarification comment was in regard to your ps statement where you stated that 'they' are talking about the redeeming of heroes cards in the tavern!Quote:
Originally Posted by kaisim_2492829
PS: You think my exaggeration comment was an excuse? Oh ok!
handbags away please ladies pmsl :D
after reading most of this thread. my thoughts are:
~its not that hard to get 800's on a lvl 3 labyrinth, infact if you dont mind gemming. its some what easy (without that d/c exploit).
~powering down for CW? nah not really an exploit, i'd do it to help guild mates get more tickets if they're betting on my fight. i dont mind helping them. but the way others do it, its a little messed up
~refreshing during banish is alright, i dont find it an exploit, cause its alittle messed up waiting 5 mins to attack again, if no one ever refreshed during banish, no one would have max gear or anywhere close. not even riot. the amount of time you would have to put into this game in the end is just annoying. 1.25 banish would be extremely rare without the refresh trick
~as for auto clickers, i think its alright. again, you have to put so much time into this game late game that its not even funny. getting max runes and saints just isnt fun, even with the vip perks to help. you know people do actually have a life outside this game, no matter how much time they spend. they cant spend hrs on end grinding out just for a simple lvl 12 rune ect... most people who complain about this type of stuff are usually the lower powered or not high in vip. goes for refreshing in banish too.
~logging other accounts, i only see it a problem if it goes to far. i dont mind helping other guild mates, we have a member that has health issues, shes been in and out of the hospital for months for several different issues. yeah, i log her in daily cause she cant help it. she has my phone number and email and keeps in contact nearly daily. she tries getting on a few times a week. but its hard, so i dont mind. only take a couple hrs to get everything done, so it doesnt bother me. am i the only one in the server who does that? no, am i the first? no. just helping out a guild mate. i always ask before doing anything other than the dailys
in the end, yeah i have used a auto clicker for runes and tavern, between work and the tons of grinding. i just couldnt get time to do any. ive d/c for labyrinths a few times, aint fun and its very time consuming, only worth it if you have tried getting a 700 on easy (which is damn near impossible due to lack of trap monster tiles) a few 100 times and you just cant get it. and doing the d/c trick doesnt always get you a 700/800 unless you'd be willing to gem. after all that, does that make me a bad player? no. im almost vip 5. 450 mill power with sirius cloaks and a chimera among other things. a good friend just told me how to play and with alittle coining, and with the knowledge. its not hard to move up in the game.
example, i have 1 bill credits atm and its tuesday, if i really wanted to, i'd get an auto clicker for tavern, cause damn thats not fun. i missed out the past couple tavern tuesdays. am i in the wrong for doing so? not really. it saves me time and my brain from sitting here hrs on end doing something so boring. doing it for just an hr starts hurting me that i end up clicking the wrong button. i need a break, but i have ~a bill credits to use up. im not leaving the computer, im still here talking to guild mates as it runs. im not doing anything bad. theres tons of free auto clickers to use. if you dont use them, dont complain. (well unless you have a chromebook, then i feel for ya (cant install programs) and it becomes very painful to do much of anything)
Ok, you seem to be a nice guy and I have no intention to make you feel bad but I have to be honest here.
1. Yes there probably is a way to regularly score 800+ in the Lab but in all honesty how many do it without exploiting.
2. Since there is no 'skip' button the way Banish was intended to be played is to switch the auto on and let it run to the end. A lot of people do it to gain maximum coins and credits. It's also the reason why Banish got capped since Tynon couldn't prevent it so brought in a nerf. A 'soft' method in dealing with a cheese.
3. No auto-clickers are far from OK. It can also potentially get your account banned since it is against the ToS. It's up to you whether you use them or not but you are running the risk losing your account.
4. Helping others is a nice thing to do. However, unless you have official authorisation and follow the agreement Tynon sets you when taking care of a friend's account if they are incapacitated or holidaying then it's fine. Other than that it's against the ToS and could see both your accounts banned.
P.S. Send my regards to your sick friend and wish her well from me.
5. Now the finally onto the controversial CW. Is it an exploit, yes it is. It's just another way to 'farm' for maximum individual benefit like Banish, only it's an elite method. However, if you regularly refresh during Banish then really there is little difference between those that power down for CW or refresh in Banish. Your're exploiting the gameplay for your self and your fellow guildmates (so they get their tickets, which gives you and them an advantage over your opponent and their guild).
You and I don't choose what is OK regarding this game, uCool do. If you do anything that is clearly stated against the ToS then you run the risk of being found out and further action being taken.
if i may add to here without judging and have to point out that i agree with most you said morgan. however at this point i'd like to point some stuff out or clarify:
1: regularly score 600+ yes for most of the times and a fair quantity of 700+. for the 800+ as in a "daily" result or a routine its a no. there will be always luck involved for legit scores or cheating for consistent 800+.
2: i'd like to remind you that there used to be a skip button in banish at the beginning before it was taken out and later brought back into the game
3: since there is now keyboards and even mice doing the clicking for you and help you generate macros, another game i enjoy playing changed their rules to (loosen translated) "if you can achieve the same result as a person in game, there will be macros tolerated" (this is also unavoidable since they now can add randomly generated delays, identify buttons and can variate the clicks to make them virtually undedectable). i'd also like to point out that a long time i have suggested to make it part of the game and implement automatic "clicking" options for rune temple and tavern based on VIP level.
4: i prefer the "evony solution" to this
5: if you go this far you would also have to mention ragna, HP, guild chest, etc exploits and evaluate them individually if you start comparing banish with CW. in my personal opinion those comparisons should not be drawn since you'd start comparing petty theft with grand theft (stealing is stealing... yes, but law has different outcome for each scenario).
in this instance refreshing during banish is the same as a big hitter waiting for 30 mins before hitting cerb so the smaller players get the max coins they can get before you pummel it in one hit...
Each round in banish is weighed at roughly 1.5 - 2 minutes, from hit to hit, that means you are allowed a hit every 1.5 (- 2) minutes, if your round continues for 4-5 mins like some peoples do then they are missing out on 50-60% of their hits, refreshing is the only way to guarantee you will get all the hits you are entitled to....
If however there was no downtime after refreshing it would be an exploit, trust me, i have looked into this..
My brower freezes everytime i go into battle, so have to refresh to continue playing.. Prove otherwise
I dont use click bots, I just click to the beat of the music iom listening to so is exactly the same rythum each time.. Prove otherwise
I score at least 1 800 in lab most days, its pretty easy dont use the destinies, but again each battle screws my browse so have to reset.. Prove otherwise
Point being with the d/c 'tricks' its impossible to prove any wrong doing, I might just have a crappy internet.
@Morgan and others, may I point out that Auto-Clicker software is intentionally designed to help benefit you for things you are unable to do by yourself (In the instance of the majority: time-consumption). May this be something you do as part of your everyday job, your everyday life, or perhaps your 'virtual/online life', then there is absolutely nothing wrong with auto-clicking your tavern and runes.
Everyone can use it, it really only does take 2 minutes to download (not even)! :)
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Originally Posted by davidschlebusch_6020359
The time sinks in this game are simply bad game design. You should be able to pay an upfront amount of coins for runes and the system then gives you an amount of runes/fragments based on the gold you chose to spend. That way you could do 100mil gold of runes in less than 15 seconds.
If you don't need fragments, it only takes about 30 seconds to spend 100mil on tokens.
This thread has turned into a bunch of really bad arguments to justify cheating. If u don't have the time, don't play. It's a game.
If our society has become too lazy to play video games, god help us all.
^^This.Quote:
Originally Posted by vandekop_693725
I make a point that not everything is kosher and some try to justify it.
About auto-clickers. Here it is in the ToS.
Yep automaton software is auto-clickers. You use'em, you are breaking the ToS. As I said before it's entirely up to you but I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't point out you are breaking the agreement you made with uCool when you created your account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Extract from the ToS
Regarding Banish, I never saw a message that said 'refresh now'. 1 minute cooldown and cap we put in place to stop players reaping far more than they should. Tynon can't stop you refreshing because there could be a legitimate reason for you to. However, if y'all were honest there isn't any other incentive to sit next to the computer for half an hour or so repeatedly clicking on the browser refresh buttonif there was no benefit to you, would you.
Then why don't they do something? Tynon does nothing to anyone regarding any of this.
On a side note; Morgan, you said you quit the game. You didn't like playing with all the "cheaters", so why do you stay mod? I'm not trying to be rude, i am just curious why you'd stay on since you don't play.
You have justified your point nicely Morgan! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
I think I will run the risk along with 'majority' others in getting our accounts banned by the 'non-existent' developers/administrators of the game.
I wouldn't mind getting my account banned since I haven't invested much money into the game.
It would also help me to move on from something too pointless and time-consuming, however, since everyday I wake up and hope something new may arouse with Tynon I keep the faith and play another day!
Saint Augustine once said:-
Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe.
Everyday I hope to see what I believe!
it shouldnt take more than 30 minutes turning the result button in banish back on and that would include smoking break and chat time with the office flirt