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having to waste stamina on grinding exp sucks. only lvl 27, half way to 28. cant start the new quest. Stuck int he arena by people with 15k more power than I have. Nothing to do.......The exchange rate of gems for stamina is way over balanced in favor of them making money. what to do with the rest of the day....
hit train and go outside
not all of us are able to go outside........
You can always go pick on people and collect some credits. Its a closed beta so things might be changed later.
The stamina thing does suck. It seems that stamina use is wrong. Stamina should be expended when attacking another person in the wild or in the arena. Not attacking monsters. Sure, use stamina for the auto grind, that's fine, but for those who actually wanna click on the **** they wanna kill, why penalize them? The concept of stamina should be relegated to the more special aspects of the game, like the current use for Labrynth and whatnot. Extend it's use to hunting in the wild and for arena and you'll notice that it helps the game. The stalking of lowbies will be held in check, allowing them to grow a bit easier. The more people feel they are progressing in the game the more they will play. If a person feels that they aren't making any headway and are relegated to standing in the city waiting for their stamina to rebuild, the more bored they become. Currently, it seems that players need to grind out 6-8 lvs during each quest in order to complete it successfully. This cannot be done standing around in the city. While players are grinding lvls in order to defeat, the professor for instance, they are subject to ganks from players who have significantly higher power then they do. If you limit the amount of ganks avaiailable, by using stamina as a guide, it discourages that behavior just enough to allow others to lvl. It will not kill the ganking of lowbies all together, however, as there will always be people who wish to greif the lowbies. I guess i just feel that it's a better use of stamina to be be applied to PvP purposes and special events and auto grinding, than I do fighting monsters that are necessary for advancement.
I agree totally... I know its an early version of the game... I know its the beta things will be changed. But When you do use stamina it goes very quickly.
or if they are unwilling to do that can we at least have stamina build up faster i.e. 12 hours instead of 24 to regenerate so we can work/sleep whatever and come back and play the game not count down hours before we can play which would make the game alot more enjoyable for all of us. Thanks.
Stamina is what stops the game from being a farming / grinding game.
I agree that it needs to buildup faster than 1 per 10mins though.
Would be nice if its 1/hour when doing stuff and 2/h when in train mode or something.
The stamina thing isn't great I'll agree. That said you can adjust how many times you want to attack NPC's, so for example you wanted 20 wine stones then input that amount in the box on the upper right hand side of the window.
By clicking on various areas it also gives you a total of stamina needed to level up in that area. Just a couple of ways of helping to ration stamina.
If your trying to level up just leave your game on "TRAIN" and let your stamina build up. When you come back you'll have lot's of EXP gained, level'd up and more stamina to enjoy :)
Its still build up slow HELL TO SLOW i think they need to ajust the stamina bar couse it takes the fun out of it if u need to have 60 olive branches BOOM 60 stamina gone hell thats almost a day there if u do that 2 times in 30 min then u cant do no more in the game just arena and it come to a point u cant beat the next player there SO U CANT LVL U CANT DO QUEST U CANT DO THE LABYRINTH all u got is the pirates and if u lose 3 times u can do nothing to so STAMINA relly need to be AJUST to a better way for us player to enjoy the game more during our day and NOT JUST 1 HR A DAY and have to wait for the training to build or wait for the full day to build up your stamina again well thats my 2 cents there hope u guys agree with me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by SizZiL
Stamina is mainly there to keep people from autogrinding through the entire game in short order. It's a pacing mechanism. I am playing a lot and I rarely bottom out my stamina. In fact, mine was 100% full when I logged in this morning. The horror!
While I'm not as lucky with you to be able to log in with full stamina, I have learned to pace my stamina as you said. I'll go grinding for a bit, then I do a couple arena fights, then grind more, then Cretan, then grind. I fit pirates in when I see someone in my guild who has the opposite map piece as myself looking for a partner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
That being said, I think the 10 mins per stamina point is a tad bit high, perhaps even dropping it down to a 5 min regeneration while people are actively playing and a 10 min regen when in training or signed off would make it easier to come by.
LMAO Dawn if i want to upgrade 3 of my gear for example u want to upgrade your sword u and chest guard with your 2 PLANS that u have won that right takes all your stamina 1 full day VS 30 min of game then what do u have ????? Just ARENA pirates only 3 shots a day to play the LABYRITH that 60 stamina from the start HALF BAR!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
so once u can do no more quest couse u dont have the lvl to unlock it and u cant beat the HEROIC u are stuck for the day now u can alway log out get back to in 24 hrs yes u will have stamina bar full for sure but man just to play 40 min a day ???? no no i like to play a few hrs a day thats the fun of it
Stamina does not seem to be a problem for me. I would like it to see expended when attacking other players in PvP.
u must not play much then if its not a prob for u. For hard core players it gets a little anoying to be honest it goes to fast lolQuote:
Originally Posted by rafmeister_5440998
The rates are good i think, being able to upgrade 2-3 gear parts each day is fine imo. I personally don't want to walk through this game in 1 month and then start over on a new server.
I would suggest making the first cretan labyrinth free of stamina tho. I personally never do this since 30/60 stamina is way too much in my opinion.
As for the rest i'd say its done pretty well.
yea 30/60 is alot for sure but if there was a way to gain stamina say u kill a boss or something liek that to gain a little bit of it nor alot just a few to keep u going would be funQuote:
Originally Posted by Mickeh
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Originally Posted by Mickeh
Yeah thats the biggest part I can tell as to why people complain about stamina, using 90 stamina for 2 laby runs can be difficult. Myself, I love pvp so I spend alot of time in the arena, thats probably my main reason that I hardly ever run out, I come close, but it doesn't completely tank.
so true, once you get past those low level quests it does take quite a while to get anywhere near having to sit still and wait. Im lv 50 with actually 189/199 stamina right now lmfao (i hover around 60 after doing the labyrinths). The only things i use my stamina on now is auto grinding materials for up'ping gear and the labyrinth and the occasional xp farming (auto kills my stamina way to quick). The quests take time to be able to pass, i try them when im bored from arena as it doesn't seem to subtract stamina to reenter once you are killed there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawnseeker
so lastly the curent stamina is fine, you get to lvl29 (i think it may be 27) and thats the 1st grind point, just make sure you KILL everyone in those quests. i made an alt to test different strategy, use the auto cooldown(1 gem-2 hours) on gears up to lv7 then just go with the flow. and when you spend 20 stamina to kill 13 monsters.. you better find those guys hiding aka. turn off auto youll find nice gold stacks
Hi everyone,
Great thread here but I only have one issue with stamina. The labyrinth costs 90 a day and I am a VIP so actually it costs me 150 a day and 10 gems. Now, if I only gain 6 stamina an hour, that is 144 stamina a day, so for me to use the labyrinth which I paid for the right to use, it costs me over 24 hours worth of stamina. I understand that there is a 30 stamina a day bonus, twice; however, 3 bosses and that is gone. I think the cost of the labyrinth should be worked on.
Thanks!
SaCr3d
I personally rarely have any problems with stamina and it isn't unusual to find myself spending half to 2/3rds of my day on the game. I do 2 labyrinth runs (which is totally worth it once you are strong enough and understand what you should be doing in there), auto-grinding, and all that good stuff. I go to bed and ta-da plenty of stamina to last me 3-4 hours. Maybe that is just the pace at which I like to play games that does, Idk.
I would also like to note that the bonus package for just being online does on two occasions a day give stamina.
Also, the assistant's gifts/rewards could include like 5 stamina or something like that.
I do not see how people can not run out of stamina. I'm in the top 10 of my realm for the arena, so I am taking time there. Trying to do 3 labs a day suck even with the added free stamina buffs. Then you do not have the stamina left to grind for the materials to make the patterns for gear. I think i have about 5 patterns in my bank that need to be made, and with it taking 80 to 90 stamina per piece, well that is quite a bit.
If you're not running out of stamina, you're not crafting enough gear.
i agree with what you say about the stamina.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skrubs
It is SO simple.
Selling Stamina is PART of the PLAN.
Ya don't Coin-UP, you need to walk away from the game for a while.
Or play on 9+ servers, in all time zones.
Then there's always some stamina, or an event happening somewhere. :cool:
(of course when you get to higher levels, doing:
Heroic realm
Maze
Quests
Palace
Arena
Daily 3xPVP
Checking the Fair for stuff, and doing combines, & embeds on chips.
taking your time in the Rune temple, and getting more for your coin than the auto-BURN gives you.
And there's probably a couple things I forgot that also take time.
This game DEFINITELY consumes more time as you level up, to do it right.