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    yes it does... in the cerb fight I didn't have my infalability on shayd like normal and it never once landed a stun for 6 rounds until I realized it, switched runes around adding +80 break and she stunned him 5 hits in a row for a great score on the very next round. It DEFINITELY helps shayd, but not sure about other casters.

    Edit: this was supposed to quote DawnSeeker's question as to whether or not Break helps casters.
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    [QUOTE=Silencer;6370]yes it does... in the cerb fight I didn't have my infalability on shayd like normal and it never once landed a stun for 6 rounds until I realized it, switched runes around adding +80 break and she stunned him 5 hits in a row for a great score on the very next round. It DEFINITELY helps shayd, but not sure about other casters.

    So break which is to break a blocking rune increases hit rating? Precise rune which is for hit rating doesn't seem to increase the hit rating. I think her stun happens often when her attack lands, my issue is getting her attack to not miss. Otherwise she can't be used for pvp. If someone misses 3 rounds in a row with her the fight is over lol. If a break rune increases hit rate i'm game to try whatever.
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    So break which is to break a blocking rune increases hit rating? Precise rune which is for hit rating doesn't seem to increase the hit rating. I think her stun happens often when her attack lands, my issue is getting her attack to not miss. Otherwise she can't be used for pvp. If someone misses 3 rounds in a row with her the fight is over lol. If a break rune increases hit rate i'm game to try whatever.
    break just decreases the chance of being blocked, it isn't necessarily just for counteracting a blocking rune or character. I too had many issues with shayd at the start (and she still misses too much) but after adding hit rating and break runes she has gotten a lot better. Hit rating alone didn't work, and break alone didn't work. I think some runes actually work together in a way such as these 2 ... also placement in formation plays a big key in how often she stuns as well

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    This is why I said she is only useful vs 1 boss, in a regular fight which is 99% of the game she is useless. Smoulder is not meant to be a character to fight cerb or baal as his attacks damage all so using him vs 1 enemy such as cerb or baal would be a waste.

    I have tried all positions in formation with her and her attacks still consistently miss. Is there a spot you know of where her attacks are more consistent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legolas Bow of Athena View Post
    This is why I said she is only useful vs 1 boss, in a regular fight which is 99% of the game she is useless. Smoulder is not meant to be a character to fight cerb or baal as his attacks damage all so using him vs 1 enemy such as cerb or baal would be a waste.

    I have tried all positions in formation with her and her attacks still consistently miss. Is there a spot you know of where her attacks are more consistent?

    smoulder sucks in fights with 5 mobs on the opposing force as well, he rarely hits 4 of them, and the damage is very low. you have to position her so she stuns the mob that you want her to stun, the location has been different for me for almost every heroic boss fight but there is no chance I would have been able to clear the heroic fights I can without her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstullkid_771235 View Post
    smoulder sucks in fights with 5 mobs on the opposing force as well, he rarely hits 4 of them, and the damage is very low. you have to position her so she stuns the mob that you want her to stun, the location has been different for me for almost every heroic boss fight but there is no chance I would have been able to clear the heroic fights I can without her.
    I've done the exact same however i've had to just click to fight the boss and use same everything 30 times then when she finally hits 3 out of the 5 times i will typically win the fight.
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    I run a 130 hit rating on shayd and i have noticed no difference, it sounds like smoulder is the same. I'm starting to think there is nothing you can do for mages to be able to hit more often. Sadly i will scrap the gold cards and just use mehvidan as my mage, he doesn't have the no hit bug.
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    I am going to make a thread about this requesting information; it's pretty absurd that no one really knows, and there is absolutely NO reason to hide it. http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...wers-from-devs
    Last edited by bstullkid_771235; 06-26-2013 at 12:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bstullkid_771235 View Post
    I am going to make a thread about this requesting information; it's pretty absurd that no one really knows, and there is absolutely NO reason to hide it. http://bbs.tynon.com/showthread.php?...wers-from-devs
    figuring it out is what makes it more fun, testing theories and learning before others gives you a slight advantage... we don't need wiki to teach us all how to do the same thing repetitively, we need to figure it out for ourselves and learn from our guild. That's what its supposed to be about. Anyone can follow a guide, but can you swap runes and formations around and figure out the advantages and disadvantages on your own? That's the fun of it right there! Once you know it all, it will be as boring as evony is after 5 years (so glad I quit that game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silencer View Post
    figuring it out is what makes it more fun, testing theories and learning before others gives you a slight advantage... we don't need wiki to teach us all how to do the same thing repetitively, we need to figure it out for ourselves and learn from our guild. That's what its supposed to be about. Anyone can follow a guide, but can you swap runes and formations around and figure out the advantages and disadvantages on your own? That's the fun of it right there! Once you know it all, it will be as boring as evony is after 5 years (so glad I quit that game)
    in certain games yes, I agree; however the amount of deception in this game is quite high.

    - masking a 1 or 2 in 100 chance at a gold or purple card as 1 in 5
    - no warning that unsocketing a lvl 4 gem (when you place it) costs ONE HUNDRED GEMS, the deceptionfactor(le word) is even 10 folded here by the fact that you can unsocket up to lvl 3 for free so you don't even think about it when socketing lvl 4
    - no warning that normal level on labyrinth hosts 2.4million power mobs, therefor 1 shotting you and wasting the stamina you spent to get in there
    - ETC
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