Great patch,the "moaners" will always moan when something they depend on daily gets taken away from them.I agree with Vato.
Great patch,the "moaners" will always moan when something they depend on daily gets taken away from them.I agree with Vato.
Originally Posted by Boroeast
We have informed the community manager about this issue. He should get back to us with an answer soon.
Just finished cerberus and seemed a bit like a lottery to me. Probably one of the fairest ways to do it.
It's a Game and one game that I have seen more childish acting/talking (like in realm chat) than any game I have ever played. I may be different than most players because I come to these games to meet people and have an enjoyable gaming experience no matter how the game is designed. If I don't enjoy the game I simply don't log in anymore. Maybe just what I am feeling but people are acting like every attack is personal and that the player just did a real life drive by shooting at their real life house. Aren't we all here for the same reason? We enjoy on line gaming? Some of the things said in this thread are disturbing. What is going on, 99% of us don't know the person in real life we are bashing. As far as the changes go in Baal/Cerebus...I have 3 choices...make an adult response to the changes in the forum, accept the changes and continue playing or don't accept the changes and quit the game. But I won't, no matter what I choose to do, come into the forum and and act like this game was meant only for me or bash my fellow gamer because I don't like their opinion. Let's enjoy our gaming together and work together as adults to get changes done that most of us would like to see changed. Luv you all..see you in the wild
I'm a bit confused reading back since my last post. How is everyone seeing this as "fair"? Are you referring to everyone having an equal chance to get the reward, regardless of the time, energy, and knowledge they have put into the game? That, to me, is the opposite of fair.
Also, as VatoLoco said, many people simply camped out and prayed that damage would get low enough for them to hit. These are the players that tried to call me out for "cheating" because I was able to better monitor my damage and knew when I could hit to ensure i got last hit. For one week, out of the 14 events, I took at least 5 of those last hits. I can guarantee you that I was no where near the top ranked player anywhere. I put the extra time and effort in, and I see no problem with being justly rewarded. But what many people fail to distinguish between is the people "camping" and those that have legitmate systems in order to get last hit. Did everyone have an equal chance? No of course they didn't, because if it was a game of wild chance no one would attempt to understand it better then others in order to profit from it.
I can understand wanting to make the chance of getting the last hit more difficult, but I do not believe this way is equitable in any way. Some people will argue that there was no skill or strategy involved in last hit and that it was only about who had the larger stick, although I disagree, I'll go with it for this. People can only be 100% sure of last hit IF they can see the health meter, so you took it away, again I don't agree but I'll go with it. The issue I see is that regardless of your skill level or knowledge now, with the forced restart and imaginary health left, if is a complete lottery, and I hope that isn't what the developers wanted.
Not everyone sees it from your point of view. You have your opinion but others may see it from another side.
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Yes Morgan I understand that, but why would a company pander to the casual players over their hardcore gamer base who have invested much more time into this game, not to mention money, then the people that these changes benefit overwhelmingly? This is the issue I can't wrap my head around. Nor the fact that some people are claiming "fair" means everyone, regardless of kill or anything else, should have a equal shot at last hit...that in no definition of fair makes sense. People invest into this game to have an edge, not a level playing field. There are plenty of playing field leveling elements in this game already.
And I 100% understand that if these changes really upset me the way they have, then I am welcome to leave, and I very well may. Before i give up though, I will push hard to retain the game-style I have invested so much of my time and effort into. I also don't understand from a business stand point why a company would stand by a decision that alienates so many players, and paying players at that. Are the paying customers that disposable to the company? If so, then I, as a non paying player, feel even less valued and more inclined to leave.
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It's a game for everyone not just the hardcore.
I completely get your comments about working at your account and making yourself strong is hard work. I doubt that anyone would disagree with you. However, it doesn't matter what level you're at you are still a player who deserves the chance to enjoy the game and become stronger themselves. It can be disheartening for the newbies to watch the big guys reap the rewards all the time. So this patch has given them the chance to win something.
New players mean the game will be kept alive and grow for everyone's benefit. Pandering to the elite only discourages new players, something I'm sure none of us want .
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100% agree Morgan.Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay
This is where I have issue and don't understand the logic. When we all started, we all had the same benefits to grow, and all had/have the option to pay to grow quicker. The company herds new people into their new servers, so not too many end up on older servers. This is part of the appeal of a new server, however if someone desires to start on an existing server or wishes to get better, then they should invest more time and effort into getting better, not by shear luck. There are many places where newb/lower level accounts have an advantage: farming and tavern being the two most important. People should grow from dedication, but I guess not everyone agrees with that.
No, we wouldn't but why try to be the best if you are being forced into games of chance?
Okay, I understand all the changes and Tynon "thinks" this is being fair for the new players. But is it "our" fault they are just starting when we have been going for what 2-3 months now. Yes, some are going to be way more powerful than the newbie as they have been playing alot longer. Why give a new player the benefits of getting stronger quicker when we (beta players) didn't get that luxury. We had to work our butts off to gain our power, to gain our runes to get where we are today. It's competition. If you want to be the best, then BEAT the best. It should make you want to work harder and devote that much more time to playing JUST to be able to beat that one person or that one Boss. Not take away from those that have been working to build their accounts for the past few months and making it where some random joe-shmoe who starts baal the last 30 seconds wins it. I don't win the 10mil that often, I think I have won it maybe once. I'm not huge in power, I'm average. But it is the competition that drives me, not who wins what, who gets what, what level they are. It's skill. It's knowledge. Period. All in all this is just my opinion.
Sorry couldnt disagree with you more. NEW PLAYERS usually go to NEW SERVERS. Not to serves 1-10 for the most part. SO how does this help new people to a server thats been running for a while. It doesn't because the new people are going to new servers and its only a very rare case where a new account is created on an established server. SO the fair to the newbies argument is invalid.
So maybe we should all band together and boycott the realm boss until they undo all these changes. If enough of the top 10-15 players in each realm stop playing the realm event, the 250m hp balls will be back to 10m in 3 days or so. And everyone will suffer. And all will suffer equally and that will be fair. Server 1 pink or mail me if you want to get together and organize this server wide boycott
Last edited by Morgan le Fay; 08-01-2013 at 11:59 PM.
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