Patch Notes 8/23/13

[mattp169]

@mattp and legolas:

WHAT the new update does is MOVE away the focus of World Boss events away from the plans.

It's ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE who get the plans day in and day out.

This bring an UNFAIR ADVANTAGE over the other 99% of players out there who cannot place 1st 2nd or 3rd in World boss, and don't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting a Lightbringer plan from heroic realms, or worse, Justice plans.

Now YOU HAVE TO EARN YOUR CHANCE TO GET A PLAN in World Boss events.

You will not get a plan that you have not "unlocked", or earned the right to get.


@everyone complaining about the new world boss drops:

EARN your plan drops. Fight as far as you can into Heroic Realms.

Herby
SHut up!

You apparently can not read to save your life
I have The second Envoy Unlocked
I have busted my but to get that far in HR.
I deserve something better then sword plans because I have busted my but to earn Top 3 over and over again in baal/cerebus. I should not be punished because other people do not play the game as good as I do.

Sword plans in baal/cerebus is ridiculous because if you can beat the boss to unlock the sword plans
you dont need the sword plans since it drops from every boss. You need helmets chest guards cloaks and relics. which drop less.

So if you are mainly getting sword plans its a waste for EVERYONE including you herby who just wants to bash people who do better then you.
I am not complaining that I am no longer getting sword plans, I wanted to get guard plans, just not swords. I wanted cloaks and relics which are the 2 hardest to drop. And since its a challenge to get top 3 in baal and cerebus, the rewards for it shouldnt be the same thing I could get from 5 different bosses that I have already beaten plenty of times

[marmeek31_8083917]

[QUOTE=mattp169;16506]Herby
SHut up!


I have busted my but to get that far in HR.
I deserve something better then sword plans because I have busted my but to earn Top 3 over and over again in baal/cerebus. I should not be punished because other people do not play the game as good as I do.

You mean spent as much money, there is no skill based in this game period, if you gotta spend 1000s of dollars to beat someone at a game then you have zero skill and probly should sit down and practive some old school pong. Back in my day when you fought other people on pvp games you knew the difference between skillled and none here only difference is money, money doesnt make you a better player, if anything it makes players lazy and unskilled.

[Herby]

Herby
SHut up!

You apparently can not read to save your life
I have The second Envoy Unlocked
I have busted my but to get that far in HR.
I deserve something better then sword plans because I have busted my but to earn Top 3 over and over again in baal/cerebus. I should not be punished because other people do not play the game as good as I do.

Sword plans in baal/cerebus is ridiculous because if you can beat the boss to unlock the sword plans
you dont need the sword plans since it drops from every boss. You need helmets chest guards cloaks and relics. which drop less.

So if you are mainly getting sword plans its a waste for EVERYONE including you herby who just wants to bash people who do better then you.
I am not complaining that I am no longer getting sword plans, I wanted to get guard plans, just not swords. I wanted cloaks and relics which are the 2 hardest to drop. And since its a challenge to get top 3 in baal and cerebus, the rewards for it shouldnt be the same thing I could get from 5 different bosses that I have already beaten plenty of times

Fyi i am at firelord ignis on my server 2 account so i can say im faring pretty well.

The new changes MOVE THE FOCUS OF WORLD BOSS AWAY FROM GETTING PLANS.

Do you understand the bold texted words?


Since you are at the second Envoy, and the second Envoy drops Ironheart swords and staffs, placing 1st 2nd 3rd in the World boss events will get you either an Ironheart Sword or Staff. Simple enough.


As the Tynon staff have said, the game is an ever-changing one. We adapt or we leave.

[mattp169]

Fyi i am at firelord ignis on my server 2 account so i can say im faring pretty well.

The new changes MOVE THE FOCUS OF WORLD BOSS AWAY FROM GETTING PLANS.

Do you understand the bold texted words?


Since you are at the second Envoy, and the second Envoy drops Ironheart swords and staffs, placing 1st 2nd 3rd in the World boss events will get you either an Ironheart Sword or Staff. Simple enough.


As the Tynon staff have said, the game is an ever-changing one. We adapt or we leave.

I cant believe Im about to agree with Boro, but you have no clue what you are talking about. I am getting GUARD SWORDS not ironhearts. Which is correct under the new model since I have not beaten the second envoy only have it unlocked. But getting sword plans for me is an insult i should be getting guard relics and cloaks not swords since I have defeated Baron Fugo.

[Herby]

I cant believe Im about to agree with Boro, but you have no clue what you are talking about. I am getting GUARD SWORDS not ironhearts. Which is correct under the new model since I have not beaten the second envoy only have it unlocked. But getting sword plans for me is an insult i should be getting guard relics and cloaks not swords since I have defeated Baron Fugo.

If you've only beaten Baron Fuego, then the plan choices for you are Guardian swords to relics.

I don't see how what you're currently getting violates that.

[mattp169]

You are all intentionally ignoring the issues at this point since I have clearly stated in numerous times in numerous threads.

The majority of the so called rewards for top 3 on server 1 are sword plans. That is not a reward regardless of level. Imagine you are a player who never makes top 3. the last boss you have beaten in HR is the reanimated. Think about how many HB sword plans you have gotten in realms that you sold or abandoned. Now for some reason you make top 3 in cerebus and get an HB sword plan. Would you be happy? I doubt it. But this is precisely the problem. Getting yet another sword plan from baal/cerebus is not a reward. The sword/staff plans should only drop if you take first and the last boss you have beaten only drops sword/staffs. Giving the majority of players on an entire server sword plans for baal/cerebus is an insult. The only sword plan I need atm is 1 iron heart. When I eventually beat the second envoy, I will get it with in 3 days more then likely. Then when I beat the next HR boss I will get another one and another and another another. I dont need baal/cerebus to drop SWORD PLANS. NO ONE REALLY DOES if the level of gear awarded is based on HR. That's the problem to me. Not the level of gear. But everyone keeps insisting on saying this is about gear level and which boss you have defeated.

I actually like having it so that HR determines gear level of plans dropped form Baal/cerebus. I wish this would have been implemented from the beginning - and not to slow down people who coin more or anything like that. But because if done properly in a manner like I have suggested, then this would add another strategic element to the game for players.

Its the fact that sword plans are considered a reward for doing well in an event when that plan is the most dropped plan in HR.

Boo got an ironheart sword plan. He doesnt need that. But he does need other iron heart plans like relics and cloaks etc. SO the level part of this is mute. ITS the sword plans that are wrong and insulting to all players even those who say the like the change.

I got sword plans at guard level when I dont need them. I need other guard gear. Yet we are rewarded with the most useless plan possible a sword. STOP DROPPING SWORDS/STAFFS in Baal/cerebus

[Andy]

If you've only beaten Baron Fuego, then the plan choices for you are Guardian swords to relics.

I don't see how what you're currently getting violates that.

I have beaten Baron Fuego and I get Champion plans from WB, not Guardian. I believe that is the way the new model works. When I beat The Envoy, that is the first HR boss that gives Guardian Swords and Staffs then I will start getting them in WB. Of course, then I will not need them in WB since I will be able to get them in HR. That is why this whole change is ridiculous. The drops should be based on now far along you have progressed on the rail. If you can grind got the materials to craft the upgrade then they should be eligible for WB drops.

That would not actually help me since what I need are 3 Guardian swords to have a full set of Guardians (except for Spirits, of course) and I already have a full set of Ironharts (that I can not used because I can not get past the purple boss with the bad hair day (can not remember his name but I use him as my Avatar).

With my proposal I would get Ironharts until I can beat the bosses that guard the materials for the Lightbringer Swords/Staffs. That will not do me much good either since I already have a full set of Lightbringers except Spirit and Relic and WB stopped dropping Relics. I am resigned to not get anything useful from WB (unless it starts dropping Relics) even with my proposal, but most people will be able to get the plans that they can craft but are unable to get in HR.

[Herby]

I have beaten Baron Fuego and I get Champion plans from WB, not Guardian. I believe that is the way the new model works. When I beat The Envoy, that is the first HR boss that gives Guardian Swords and Staffs then I will start getting them in WB. Of course, then I will not need them in WB since I will be able to get them in HR. That is why this whole change is ridiculous. The drops should be based on now far along you have progressed on the rail. If you can grind got the materials to craft the upgrade then they should be eligible for WB drops.

That would not actually help me since what I need are 3 Guardian swords to have a full set of Guardians (except for Spirits, of course) and I already have a full set of Ironharts (that I can not used because I can not get past the purple boss with the bad hair day (can not remember his name but I use him as my Avatar).

With my proposal I would get Ironharts until I can beat the bosses that guard the materials for the Lightbringer Swords/Staffs. That will not do me much good either since I already have a full set of Lightbringers except Spirit and Relic and WB stopped dropping Relics. I am resigned to not get anything useful from WB (unless it starts dropping Relics) even with my proposal, but most people will be able to get the plans that they can craft but are unable to get in HR.

I suggest you screenshot an image of you having beaten baron fuego and has the next boss unlocked, together with you winning champion plans.
Then send that to customer service and file a ticket.