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    The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

    Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

    Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

    Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

    Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.
    Very well said.

    Mattp needs to know a thing or two about balancing, and that he's not the only player on the server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

    Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

    Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.
    Ok morgan I can agree with this part of the change. In fact I love it, because now as i progress in game I have some more control over what level plan drops form baal/cerebus. The fact they changed how the level of gear is determined is fine with me.

    THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS DROPPING MAINLY SWORD PLANS. FOR THE ENTIRE SERVER. WHY SWORDS? WHY ONT RELICS OR CLOAKS-

    The plans are a REWARD. Getting a sword plan when you have beaten 5 bosses that can drop a sword plan is an insult not a reward. Make it based on the last 3 bosses you have beaten and award one of the last 2 plans (the ones that are less likely to drop) from that boss. SO if the last boss you have beaten is baron fuego and you take first you will get either a guard cloak or relic. If you take second you would get drops form the previous boss you beat which is this case is molten golem and would be awarded either a cloak or chest guard. If you take third then its based n the 3rd to last boss you beaten which in this case would be senator fuses and you would be awarded either a guardian chest guard or helm. I don't think this is outrageous. Or unfair. Or allows people to leap ahead just because they rank in top 3

    And herby if this is to take away the focus of using top 3 to get plans, then just get rid of the plans from the event. SO I dont think they are trying to take away the plans as a focus of the event, they just dont want people to get justice plans who are level 80 and the next level when they are level 90 and have to get those mats and maps ready faster then they planned. This change was to slow people down. Which is fine, but dont give us USELESS ITEMS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    And herby if this is to take away the focus of using top 3 to get plans, then just get rid of the plans from the event. SO I dont think they are trying to take away the plans as a focus of the event, they just dont want people to get justice plans who are level 80 and the next level when they are level 90 and have to get those mats and maps ready faster then they planned. This change was to slow people down. Which is fine, but dont give us USELESS ITEMS.
    Only people who have collected dozens of plans by winning world boss everyday find this useless.
    It's only useless for YOU since you probably have tons of these items by winning world boss everyday day in and day out.
    Am i correct?

    In our guild two members who have never gotten top 3 ranked 1 and 3 today and got plans that they will craft today.
    They were very happy about it since it lessens the time they need to wait hitting Heroic Bosses for the plans they need.

    If you find world boss events useless don't participate in it. Give your top 3 spot to someone who has never gotten it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Only people who have collected dozens of plans by winning world boss everyday find this useless.
    It's only useless for YOU since you probably have tons of these items by winning world boss everyday day in and day out.
    Am i correct?

    In our guild two members who have never gotten top 3 ranked 1 and 3 today and got plans that they will craft today.
    They were very happy about it since it lessens the time they need to wait hitting Heroic Bosses for the plans they need.



    If you find world boss events useless don't participate in it. Give your top 3 spot to someone who has never gotten it before.
    Then the drops on your server are totally different then on my server. Havent found a person yet on server 1 who got anything but sword/staff plans

    ANd NO i will not GIVE away my top 3 spot. If someone can take it from me let them take it from me. The same as I took my spot from other players. I like the rep and credits I get. I earn those daily. Like I keep aying the plans are suppose to be a reward and a sword plan is never a reward, its an insult

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    ANd NO i will not GIVE away my top 3 spot. If someone can take it from me let them take it from me. The same as I took my spot from other players. I like the rep and credits I get. I earn those daily. Like I keep aying the plans are suppose to be a reward and a sword plan is never a reward, its an insult
    There lies the crux of your problem. It is my belief that Tynon wants to do away with this type of mentality and attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    There lies the crux of your problem. It is my belief that Tynon wants to do away with this type of mentality and attitude.
    They want to make the game non competitive? I compete in this game for everything I get. I look at doing better as a challenge. I try to improve my characters and accomplish things.

    Why dont you try explaining the exact mentality attitude you mean. Because I seriously doubt they want to get rid of my attitude. SInc e its an attitude shared by many many many players i across all types of games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

    Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

    Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.
    Irrational line of argument. Since the same people winning the same old useless sword drops just keep banging away and bogarting the top 3 positions, selling the surplus sword plans for a few coins (even less than the cost of the apprentice gear!) and just collect reputation and merge-gems and NEVER EVER let their own people advance around them who might actually need a sword plan or two.

    THIS IS THE END Of this GAME. People are seeing now that its a dead ended game design that does not balance, does not reward and looks more like a failed liberal social justice ideology than it looks like cogent and rational game design with a well thought out advancement strategy. MOST are quitting it out of boredom now. EPIC FAIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverBummer View Post
    Irrational line of argument. Since the same people winning the same old useless sword drops just keep banging away and bogarting the top 3 positions, selling the surplus sword plans for a few coins (even less than the cost of the apprentice gear!) and just collect reputation and merge-gems and NEVER EVER let their own people advance around them who might actually need a sword plan or two.

    THIS IS THE END Of this GAME. People are seeing now that its a dead ended game design that does not balance, does not reward and looks more like a failed liberal social justice ideology than it looks like cogent and rational game design with a well thought out advancement strategy. MOST are quitting it out of boredom now. EPIC FAIL.
    yet you are still here posting in the forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.
    Mi point exactly. It should be based on how far along the path you are and what materials you can farm and not what HR bosses you have defeated. HR bosses do not give you materials, only plans. If I can get the plans from them what is the point on also getting them from WB?

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