New boss drops are fail...

[htgar2_9729409]

Agreed the boss drops re: gear are very disappointing. Previously, while I could not make the guardian gear, as I have only Hope Bringer gear, at least I knew I would get to use the plans eventually,getting a Hope Bringer chest plan was really frustrating (I already have on all heroes). On top of the fact Cianna's stun is so unreliable now, the totally hopeless Rune Temple odds, frankly I wonder why I put the several hundred dollars I have in the game. When the stars fail, you are supposed to loose one not both. Really there feels like a growing list of why, it is highly likely I'll move on or rather back to the game I was playing. Don't get me wrong the rewards for VIP1 are exceptionally good given the very small investment but after that, well, feels like throwing cash away. There is minimal advantage over free to play.

Please consider this, I can see with the VIP rewards some conceptualisation of pay reward but what you really want in the game are advantages like getting Alexa (this and the direct link to bank are excellent motivation for early spending) or a gold rune. Perhaps with the treasure chests, I will see better drop rates, I sincerely hope so

[mattp169]

I think Herby answers this one quite eloquently. You want better quality plans from WBs, start whooping the the bosses in Heroic Realms.

NO NO NO NO NO

I have the second envoy unlocked yet unbeasten. Which means I can get guard swords from 5 bosses. Yet I get a guard sword on baal/cerebus. NOONE NEEDS SWORDS from baal/cerebus. If you have the first boss beaten for any level of gear, you will not need sword plans from baal/cerebus. Every boss drops swords and we all get more of them then we could ever need. So a sword drop form baal/cerebus is ridiculous and pointless and not going to help anyone in this game. The plan is suppose to be a reward, yet now its a joke meant to slow progress down in the game.

I am not arguing about determining the level of gear by HR boss unlocked. I am mad about the type of plan. Swords should not drip from baal.cerebus if they level of plan is determined by HR bosses.

Heres an example of what I think it should be

Say you have plague lord beaten but not molten cerebus.
Thsi means you have all champ gear bosses defeated and the first boss for guard which can only drop sword/staff

If you place 1st you should receive the plans from the furthest boss you beat. In this example that would be Plague lord so you should get guard sword/staff
If you place second then you would get plans from the second to last boss you can beat, in this case plague professor and should get either a champ sword or relic since those are the 2 best plans he can drop
if you place 3rd you get plans from the 3rd to last boss you beat in this case Skeleton champ and be rewarded either a cloak or chest guard which are the 2 best pieces that can drop fro that boss

Everyone like herby and morgana and revan who say this change is for the good are wrong and do not understand the real issue with the change. Some people may be upset about the level, but its the fact we are getting swords that we can obtain form 4 or 5 bosses that we already have defeated and unlocked. If we were to all have gotten cloaks and relics of the same level, most of us would not be upset at all.

[Morgan le Fay]

The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.

[Herby]

The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.

Very well said.

Mattp needs to know a thing or two about balancing, and that he's not the only player on the server.

[mattp169]

The problem I'm sure y'all noticed was, the same people were in the top 3. These same people were acquiring the plans to upgrade their gear long before they'll actually encountered the boss in Heroic. It was far too easy for them to get way ahead, while the less powered struggled to keep up.

Now the focus is away from the plan drops and players shouldn't be getting light bringers and Justice long before they unlock areas needed to farm for materials.

Changes don't suit everyone. This one has brought in some much needed balancing so IMHO its not a bad thing. It's just best for the time being to roll with it, you never know what the future may bring.

Ok morgan I can agree with this part of the change. In fact I love it, because now as i progress in game I have some more control over what level plan drops form baal/cerebus. The fact they changed how the level of gear is determined is fine with me.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT ITS DROPPING MAINLY SWORD PLANS. FOR THE ENTIRE SERVER. WHY SWORDS? WHY ONT RELICS OR CLOAKS-

The plans are a REWARD. Getting a sword plan when you have beaten 5 bosses that can drop a sword plan is an insult not a reward. Make it based on the last 3 bosses you have beaten and award one of the last 2 plans (the ones that are less likely to drop) from that boss. SO if the last boss you have beaten is baron fuego and you take first you will get either a guard cloak or relic. If you take second you would get drops form the previous boss you beat which is this case is molten golem and would be awarded either a cloak or chest guard. If you take third then its based n the 3rd to last boss you beaten which in this case would be senator fuses and you would be awarded either a guardian chest guard or helm. I don't think this is outrageous. Or unfair. Or allows people to leap ahead just because they rank in top 3

And herby if this is to take away the focus of using top 3 to get plans, then just get rid of the plans from the event. SO I dont think they are trying to take away the plans as a focus of the event, they just dont want people to get justice plans who are level 80 and the next level when they are level 90 and have to get those mats and maps ready faster then they planned. This change was to slow people down. Which is fine, but dont give us USELESS ITEMS.

[Herby]

And herby if this is to take away the focus of using top 3 to get plans, then just get rid of the plans from the event. SO I dont think they are trying to take away the plans as a focus of the event, they just dont want people to get justice plans who are level 80 and the next level when they are level 90 and have to get those mats and maps ready faster then they planned. This change was to slow people down. Which is fine, but dont give us USELESS ITEMS.

Only people who have collected dozens of plans by winning world boss everyday find this useless.
It's only useless for YOU since you probably have tons of these items by winning world boss everyday day in and day out.
Am i correct?

In our guild two members who have never gotten top 3 ranked 1 and 3 today and got plans that they will craft today.
They were very happy about it since it lessens the time they need to wait hitting Heroic Bosses for the plans they need.

If you find world boss events useless don't participate in it. Give your top 3 spot to someone who has never gotten it before.

[mattp169]

Only people who have collected dozens of plans by winning world boss everyday find this useless.
It's only useless for YOU since you probably have tons of these items by winning world boss everyday day in and day out.
Am i correct?

In our guild two members who have never gotten top 3 ranked 1 and 3 today and got plans that they will craft today.
They were very happy about it since it lessens the time they need to wait hitting Heroic Bosses for the plans they need.



If you find world boss events useless don't participate in it. Give your top 3 spot to someone who has never gotten it before.

Then the drops on your server are totally different then on my server. Havent found a person yet on server 1 who got anything but sword/staff plans

ANd NO i will not GIVE away my top 3 spot. If someone can take it from me let them take it from me. The same as I took my spot from other players. I like the rep and credits I get. I earn those daily. Like I keep aying the plans are suppose to be a reward and a sword plan is never a reward, its an insult

[Herby]

ANd NO i will not GIVE away my top 3 spot. If someone can take it from me let them take it from me. The same as I took my spot from other players. I like the rep and credits I get. I earn those daily. Like I keep aying the plans are suppose to be a reward and a sword plan is never a reward, its an insult

There lies the crux of your problem. It is my belief that Tynon wants to do away with this type of mentality and attitude.

[mattp169]

There lies the crux of your problem. It is my belief that Tynon wants to do away with this type of mentality and attitude.

They want to make the game non competitive? I compete in this game for everything I get. I look at doing better as a challenge. I try to improve my characters and accomplish things.

Why dont you try explaining the exact mentality attitude you mean. Because I seriously doubt they want to get rid of my attitude. SInc e its an attitude shared by many many many players i across all types of games.

[geekahedron]

Everyone should be able to have exactly the same gear and power level regardless of the amount of time, effort, skill, and real money they put into it. Any system that rewards players for doing well? Get rid of them all, because it's not fair. No heroes unlocked for any but the most basic reputation ranks? Don't bother filling them in, it would be unfair to everyone else. Some players have beaten stronger heroic bosses than others and gotten better gear, so we better stop that unfairness from happening. Stronger players get plans they can actually use, and can't get anywhere else, from world bosses? Can't have that! Better make them get useless stuff until everyone catches up. Fairness above all!