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    Lightbulb GROSS PLAYER IMBALANCE PROBLEM FROM HEAVY Credit Card Users RUINING Entire Servers

    I am sure that this problem pertains to a lot of servers in the Tynon gaming universe. But we apparently got a kid with an ultra wealthy family that's given him a credit card and he's buying 10-20 coin chests a day and also talking his guild members into giving him their account log in info so he can "give them free gems and coins" to "help the guild". Frankly I think he may have hacked the gem server code or is using prior accounts he talked into getting log in info from to use their credit card info to buy gems....

    At any rate, the problem is that just a few players who throw a ton of money at the game are completely dominating the game play and destroying the fun and satisfaction in developing characters. It's really creating lopsided play and making it impossible to prevail in guild wars, pirate sailing, PvP, Arena etc. etc. It's a moral buster and people at some point just drop out of game play and we have fewer and fewer active players to interact with.

    Possible Remedy:
    1) Could you let players request character reassignment to other servers with perhaps some penalty (loss of rank/title etc.) to do it and prevent lots of spurious jumping around?
    2) OR, could you create special servers where ultra high might players can migrate to so the rest of the server play can be more normalized? Maybe even create a "vanity" server where one is auto-progressed (or their power cap is frozen at a certain level) to the elite-class server once they have achieved a certain threshold?
    3) Only other alternative I can think of would be to give us a handicap system.

    I am not against credit card players at all but some are really going to the extreme with it and completely ruining entire servers and forcing many to leave/abandon their accounts.

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    Hmm. No offense, who who's money is it? Is theirs, whatever they wanna spend it on- so be it, plus, many people work hard, or are retired peeps, or yes, they're kids with rich parents who gives to these kids the money.So what? Their money, their issue. Plus, thanks to all the VIP users, players that can't afford to buy VIP get to enjoy the game for free, as basically, the VIP are paying for their game-play. Is called a "free-rider" (economics)

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    Boro, will you marry me?

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    And give me your credit card?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistressBatty View Post
    Boro, will you marry me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boroeast View Post
    Hmm. No offense, who who's money is it? Is theirs, whatever they wanna spend it on- so be it, plus, many people work hard, or are retired peeps, or yes, they're kids with rich parents who gives to these kids the money.So what? Their money, their issue. Plus, thanks to all the VIP users, players that can't afford to buy VIP get to enjoy the game for free, as basically, the VIP are paying for their game-play. Is called a "free-rider" (economics)

    PS- I'm VIP4.
    Boro did you even read my comments with comprehension? Why did you have to take this down the same old tired and irrational path of "we need VIP players to pay for the non gem players" line of dialog when I said CLEARLY that I have nothing against VIP play right up front?? WHAT I SAID is there is ABUSE in this category where some are completely dominating with massive amounts of spending - many thousands of dollars and creating a whole new super class of user that utterly DESTROYS entire servers in a TYRANNICAL and ABUSIVE WAY. There is a HUGE difference in concept between paying to participate and play verses PURCHASING the server to become The Server God and DESTROYING all game satisfaction for the rest of the people so unlucky to set up an account on that server to run into this nonsense. If people have the option to relocate and let the miscreants who want to destroy game play for everyone "play with themselves" (and you can take that in the self abuse sense) alone while everyone else relocates then let them have all the fun they want alone buying the entire server and pretending to be demi-gods with no subjects who want to submit to that BS. VIP4 - VIP 6 is one thing but VIP 10+ is owning the server and bullying everyone into just abandoning their accounts for wasted time...
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    "WHAT I SAID is there is ABUSE in" this category where some are completely dominating with massive amounts of spending - many thousands of dollars and creating a whole new super class of user that utterly DESTROYS entire servers in a TYRANNICAL and ABUSIVE WAY. "

    How is spending money abusing? Is pay-to-win, not paying to abuse. I don't see that it destroys any server, in fact, it does not.It does the positive- From a business point of view, as well from a player.

    "There is a HUGE difference in concept between paying to participate and play verses PURCHASING the server to become The Server God and DESTROYING all game satisfaction for the rest of the people so unlucky to set up an account on that server to run into this nonsense."

    There's no difference, only difference I see is people that can't spend (for whatever reason it is) always complaining when VIP users get the top notch. Isn't this the whole point of purchasing gems? To become the God of the server and to dominate as much as possible? If you think having a paying costumer is nonsense..

    "If people have the option to relocate and let the miscreants who want to destroy game play for everyone "play with themselves" (and you can take that in the self abuse sense) alone while everyone else relocates then let them have all the fun they want alone buying the entire server and pretending to be demi-gods with no subjects who want to submit to that BS. VIP4 - VIP 6 is one thing but VIP 10+ is owning the server and bullying everyone into just abandoning their accounts for wasted time"

    This wouldn't many any difference. Tynon will just start closing down server and only keep and/or merge the servers that are alive and making cash. Abandoning what accounts? This will just make other users be VIP.

    Is the game of the mechanics and economics- supply and demands, needs & wants.

    I just don't get your concept of "bullying" the players if you're VIP. What are you talking about? Is money, money talks!

    When money say "Boro!" I say "Yes, massa!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boroeast View Post
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    I just don't get your concept of "bullying" the players if you're VIP. What are you talking about? Is money, money talks!

    When money say "Boro!" I say "Yes, massa!"
    Boro, I have played web games such as RTS, MMO's and just plain old flash based games. In my time of gaming I have run across a few where pay players get leveled only to spend more just to get pwned again. I have even seen players of the like, which what most of your reply mentioned. Money talks and people walk. Point is there should always be a checks and balance system. I am not all to keen on alts either, RiverBummer. I know exactly what you're talking about. So again Boro, this game seems not to care to have one and that's really just sad. Yeah you can say there are things to make up for the difference, but there really isn't. What do you care though, right Boro? If you're paying all that kinds of money to a game, you at least would want to see it run smoother and see things get fixed. Like bugs, glitches, hackers, web defense etc. Thanks for all the patches is what I am saying I guess. Whoever those people are that make those possible.....
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    Hi just a plain old simple girl here yes i am a VIP 6,and have only just got to being 4.9 mill power, and i have put up a lot of cold hard CASH to play this game,and i don't have all these super gems, or the massive power, nor do i even have i piece of champion Chesguard,on any of my team! I see massive powered players, dominating the game, and i know that most of them are not VIP's at all, i see peep's with nearly complete sets of guardian armour, and they are only just over 3 mill, i even came across 1 player that was not even 3 mill in power! with guardian armour that i cant even get at 4.9 mill so something is truely amiss in the game!!!

    just cos some peeps pay to play does not mean that you should judge us all the same i work dam hard for my money ( MY MONEY ) and it is not up to some peeps to tell me how i can spend it!

    Tynon you made the monster, so why do you now try and judge what you help create.

    oh yeah i might add i DO NOT go around scrapping every thing that moves, nor do i hang around in the realms waiting to feed off other players!it is usually me that gets hit when i am collecting items to help boost a scroll, the other day i was hit for just over 1 mill in coins alone!
    its these types of rewards that have help fuel your super powered players and not us peeps who pay to play
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    [QUOTE=Boroeast;16532]"WHAT I SAID is there is ABUSE in" this category where some are completely dominating with massive amounts of spending - many thousands of dollars and creating a whole new super class of user that utterly DESTROYS entire servers in a TYRANNICAL and ABUSIVE WAY. "

    How is spending money abusing? Is pay-to-win, not paying to abuse. I don't see that it destroys any server, in fact, it does not.It does the positive- From a business point of view, as well from a player.

    Im sorry I dont agree with you on most your points, yes the game needs players to spend money but so do allot of other games and they are allot more balanced because you can only buy so much improvement, mostly its exp boosts and such. Im a vip4 almost 5 myself 4th strongest on my server but, we have 1-2 players who have made sure their power levels are at min double anyone elses. How is that competitive? Whats the fun of totally owning a server without anyone ever being able to compete with you? Thats the issue and problem. I had the strongest guild and very active members until day 3 these two players showed up and took over the server buying endless amounts of chests etc etc. They abuse sailing by making sure they can sail and steal 6 times a day picking mostly on the bigger players like myself making sure we cant complete sails. They can sit and guard any map in guild war just by guarding G alone. I have 5 1mil+ people and 2-3 2mil and Im almost 3 mil while these guys are 5-6 mil power. We have no chance of keeping or getting land in Guild wars., Allot of players have quit the servers almost dead and more people run to thier guild rather then try and fight agaist them because I guess its easier then not being able to get any rewards. I would only ask that there be put a limit to the amount of chests that could be purchased per day or something to slow down the growth.

    Make it so they can only advance to a certain poiint based on the currrent average player on a server and then to continue to advance they would need to allow others to advance before they could continue to grow. This would slow it down and make it more competitive while still giving them a pretty good edge but not impossible to beat in groups.

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