I haven't determined a method for gold heroes yet on the new server because I'm not high enough rank to draw one yet, however, I've done incredibly well on purple heroes just clicking whereever their card was before shuffle. Hope that helps some of you to get some heroes.
Hmm ive try that many of times never work for me but i was lucky to get a few anywaysOriginally Posted by Vaki
Im gonna kinda agree with him. Everytime i was shuffling and picking a card, well the purple one was always at the same place. And when ive tried to get the card where it is... Well no, it change suddenly. On 10 draw 8 of them where at the same place still. And on another 10 draw where ive tried to click upon them at the place there were, they change 10 on 10... So it is indeed weird.
The "randomness" of the shuffle seems suspect. Similar to the "already completed combat", it seems your selection has nothing to do with which "card" you pick. While this may just be the way it is, it gives the distinct feeling of participating in a con game or some sort of "three-card Monty".
If you have played Evony, the Tavern is based on the same principle as the wheel of fortune.
Upon clicking on "Shuffle", the card you'll get is already picked out, no matter which of the 5 spots you click on.
Each hero has a rarity corresponding to them, and that is what the game engine bases on as the chance of recruitment.
i have been doing some tests too see where the card 'shuffles' to. so ok...if i click on the spot where it was before shuffle , everytime the card appears next to the one i choose. And if i choose a card that is furthest away from the purple ( furthest away so the appears next to card choose doesnt come into play , for example 2 spaces away ) then the card stays in same spot. This has happened all the time except for when i got my purple calvin and alex
i dont agree with this. yesterday i played 3,000k credits to get shayd. the last time, i picked the card she was at before the shuffle and poof, there she was. i have also gotten alexa's card wtih picking the same spot and today i picked the spot next to where she was to get her card again. with saffron and valla i also choose to the left or right and got them. the tavern is random, we are all just greedy, lol
folks things are predetermined. I have seen it in action. But that does not mean its not random or that it is rigged.
How do i know things are predetermined?
I have gotten fragments or yellow runes in the rune temple, then got disconnected. I log back in and do not have the fragments or runes but the coins came back. So I push auto pray and get the exact same results that happened before I was disconnected. SO either I get the fragment or the yellow rune I had lost.
In the tavern, I have refreshed several times, then get disconnected. When I log back in I have credits returned to me as if I didn't refresh the tavern. Then I go back in the tavern and get the exact same results in the tavern that I received before the disconnect.
So obviously the game is predetermining things in advance and storing those results for it to recall and use later.
But that does not mean much. Its actually a good thing with my example of the rune temple.
just because its determined ahead of time does not effect how it is determined. Based on what I have done and comparing it to others. We are all getting about the same results. The more coins and credits you invest in the tavern and temple the better thing you will get.
What one person considers alot may be nothing to someone else.
I invest about 2 -4m creidts a day in the tavern or more
I have 410 spirits and have received 5 purple heroes
well 3 purple heroes and 2 of them a second time awarding their saint card.
Comparing this to other people they have done about the same as me.
Now some people have gotten 1 or 2 more legendary heroes and a few less spirits then me, but they have spent more credits. Its gonna equalize out over the VERY LONG TERM
I know people who have coined more then me and have worse heroes and runes then people who have not coined at all. - That alone tells me its not rigged towards coiners.
We have all been there at one point where we feel this game is rigged to some degree or another. And you know what it probably is - the same way Vegas is. But what the casinos do is not illegal. The average casino earns 7 dollars for every 1 dollar it pays out. But its all based on odds and math - I feel the same is true here on tynon. Some people seem a lot luckier then others, in the long run it will average out.
The next time you feel its rigged
turn the game off take a deep breath and go do something else, come back to the game later, its only a game.
Mattp169, you've made some very nice points. These are good points to take with you/us through life as well. That said, there's also something to be said about perception. If a game is perceived to be dishonest in some way, and favor a particular individual, its credibility suffers. To pay money and time into the game that you perceive as slanted or crooked would be playing the part of the fool.
I get your logic and comparing the game to a casino is right on the mark. Though the casinos have refined their "games of chance" over the years to "appear" much more a "game of skill".
Personally I dislike the predetermined aspect of combat, yet I enjoy the game enough to stick around. Hope things improve.
Thanks for your effort and time.
KA
odds being odds. a 1 in 5 chance for us lowly non-paying fools should mean something. I grant if you have 2 or 4 chances per shuffle great, but being a mathematician the odds are not only for the house they are behind the house in the wooded area that no one goes to except to bury a pet or a family member they are pissed at.
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