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    I think that having all those changes introduced at once will significantly delay the introduction. Could we have them broken up into separate enhancements? For example, introduce the new heroes first and then the cross server tournament at a later time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I think that having all those changes introduced at once will significantly delay the introduction. Could we have them broken up into separate enhancements? For example, introduce the new heroes first and then the cross server tournament at a later time.
    ANdy,

    nothing in dawns post implies that they are trying to release it all at once.

    However I suspect the cross server championship will get here before the new heroes simply because we all want new heroes, but they hope the cross server championship will bring thme in some money

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    ANdy,

    nothing in dawns post implies that they are trying to release it all at once.

    However I suspect the cross server championship will get here before the new heroes simply because we all want new heroes, but they hope the cross server championship will bring thme in some money
    I think that they will be disappointed in that. Unless there are rewards for other than the top places I doubt that players will spend any gems on it. There simply will not be a chance to beat the top level players. As far as betting is concerned, unless they have realistic odds on the players based on their power there will not be that much betting.

    I am not sure what level players the other servers have, but in Server 7 there is a 15 mil power gap between the top player and the 2nd rank and another 15 mil between the 2nd rank and the 10th rank. If there is a gems 'fee' to enter the tournament very few players will since their chance of winning are so low that they might as well be zero.

    I believe that the devs do not understand economics. They make the cost of of things so unrealistically high that very few people will use Gems for it. If they want more income they should lower the cost so that more people will actually spend the gems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I think that they will be disappointed in that. Unless there are rewards for other than the top places I doubt that players will spend any gems on it. There simply will not be a chance to beat the top level players. As far as betting is concerned, unless they have realistic odds on the players based on their power there will not be that much betting.

    I am not sure what level players the other servers have, but in Server 7 there is a 15 mil power gap between the top player and the 2nd rank and another 15 mil between the 2nd rank and the 10th rank. If there is a gems 'fee' to enter the tournament very few players will since their chance of winning are so low that they might as well be zero.

    I believe that the devs do not understand economics. They make the cost of of things so unrealistically high that very few people will use Gems for it. If they want more income they should lower the cost so that more people will actually spend the gems.
    But you are not looking at form the stand point of top spenders.

    They have spent a lotto be the best on their server. Now we all know a 30m power player can beat a 35m power player. SO now with this event upcoming, top spenders who already have an investment may spend more to make that previous investment seem worth while. They may spend to get that edge to make sure they are strong enough to be #1 in the tournament or to come up as the underdog sort of speak, and be the out of no where winner. I would think that servers 1-10 will have the overall winner
    I would further think that the top 5 players on each of those servers are some of the biggest spenders. SO while they may not each drop 300 or more into the game further just for this event, they may each drop another 50 or so into the game, and if the event is repetitive they may continue to spend to be #1 the next time.

    Most of us realize that this event is going to cater to the biggest players, but they are that big because most of them spent some money already, so it is realistic to think that they may spend more money if given a reason to spend. This event may be that reason. And if it is repetitive it may be a reason for them to continue to spend more money.
    This event is no way designed for the F2P players to have much to look forward to, hence the betting for them, while the big spenders get to battle it out and maybe spend more money.

    Its not a bad business idea at all. It may actually work.

    And in terms of other servers Andy, the power gap on servers 1 and 4 are not that big

    Server 4's top 10 are all fairly close
    Server 1 top 5 span 46m,42,38,34 and 31m then 6-10 is 28m to24m
    Last edited by mattp169; 10-22-2013 at 07:49 PM.

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    That means that assuming that the 46 mil on server 4 is the top player across all servers, only the first two stand a chance of wining because there is more that 5 mil gap between 1st and 3rd. Why would any of the others spend gems on it if they can not win? Based on your argument only players that are within 5 mil of the top player across all servers have a chance of winning. How many is that? If there is boosting and it cost Gems, all that they have to do is agree not to boost because if they all boost to the max it changes nothing. I still do not see how this is going to make any significant amount of money for the devs. They would be better off lowering the price of some of the exiting items that cost gems and making the VIPs benefits actually worth something so more people will buy in.

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    preaching to the choir andy, but we do not know all of what they have planned for this event.
    And say someone with 30m power today says wow if i invest $ in gems i might be able to catch up to that 46m power guy and win it all, because this event might be 3 months away.

    theres all kinds of thinking that can be going on, not all of those spenders read the forums or think the same way you and i do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    That means that assuming that the 46 mil on server 4 is the top player across all servers, only the first two stand a chance of wining because there is more that 5 mil gap between 1st and 3rd. Why would any of the others spend gems on it if they can not win? Based on your argument only players that are within 5 mil of the top player across all servers have a chance of winning. How many is that? If there is boosting and it cost Gems, all that they have to do is agree not to boost because if they all boost to the max it changes nothing. I still do not see how this is going to make any significant amount of money for the devs. They would be better off lowering the price of some of the exiting items that cost gems and making the VIPs benefits actually worth something so more people will buy in.
    Now, you are just assuming that there is a max. What if there is none? :P

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    Server 5 currently has separate cities for each of the 5 realms in guilds warfare. It's more fair this way than having to share, because it promotes more than 1 dominant guild. If Tynon were to go to a single set of cities for guilds warfare, my guild Firies would end up owning most of them, because we have the strongest players in the server. I don't want to drive out the competition in the other realms, competition we currently face in Pirates, Heaven Tavern, and Ragnarok.
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    Hi this is Cheyenne and I playing online with you sorry

  10. #180
    Instead of changing the arena and guilds warfare in servers 1 - 10 to be cross realm, I have another idea.
    I'd like to see a cross-realm guild event (similar to Heaven Palace but between guilds) where guilds can challenge each other weekly for rewards and ranking among guilds. Guild ranking currently does not go by which guild is actually stronger in war.

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