First of all Thanks for replying to my post I have tried many formations and even many different hero combos . I believe I have the heroes to get the job done they just cant survive his attacks long enough.... My main concern is why does he hit me just as hard from the time I started to now ? there should have been some diminished damage taken ...no ? You have given me some good advice, I will most definitely benefit from thanks The mystery still remains on why his damage output remains the same after 6 levels and a lot of defense increases .