I do understand your issue. I was throwing out one way that some of us are beating the boredom. You don't have to do it, obviously Realistically there's a low chance that something as drastic as you originally suggest like negating stuns would ever occur, so the choice is to keep beating your head on the wall and expecting a different result, or find another way to enjoy the game.Originally Posted by mattp169
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
-Alice in Wonderland
"I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you **** with me, I'll kill you all."
-Gen. James "Chaos" Mattis, USMC to Iraqi tribal elders
I see what your saying, and I can see how it would interest some players. My wife, for instance, enjoys the initial building and playing of accounts, not playing for months and months. I'm the direct opposite. I enjoy a game where I can play and build upon something for several months, if not years. Evony stopped introducing new "stuff", so I eventually grew bored of it, but it took 3 years lol
I'm hoping Tynon is the game that never stops, keeps adding new features and hopefully gets away from this whole chance/luck system, and more towards skill and effort. Hey, all I'm asking for right now is a new hero...
-- Deuc
"Thank you for your constantly supporting on Tynon!"
Yeah, for our little gunslingers 'n gamers group the love is really the PVP aspect. Small unit tactics, formations, backroom alliances with backstabbing intent and general chaos. I like the building and customization here, though the luck aspect of everything throws a wrench into the skill side. Personally my issue is I hit a wall where doing the math on what it would cost me to stay on top of the curve is getting a bit absurd for my tastes. Such as blowing 300 gems on sainting insurance, because I failed 3 times in a row with a 60% chance of success in a latest bloodstorm update. I'd rather the customization was simply at cost: saint card = x amount of creds/gems/whatever. The higher it goes the more bait-and-switch it starts to feel to me.I see what your saying, and I can see how it would interest some players. My wife, for instance, enjoys the initial building and playing of accounts, not playing for months and months. I'm the direct opposite. I enjoy a game where I can play and build upon something for several months, if not years. Evony stopped introducing new "stuff", so I eventually grew bored of it, but it took 3 years lol
I'm hoping Tynon is the game that never stops, keeps adding new features and hopefully gets away from this whole chance/luck system, and more towards skill and effort. Hey, all I'm asking for right now is a new hero...
Like the OP here: stuns. I'd rather they were a known quantity, such as Shayd stuns 100% of the time yet only attacks every 2 or 3 rounds. You can plan a strategy around that, and formation choice and attack order would play more of a role if it wasn't a drunken gamble.
Or different sorts of group modifiers, linked spells, or something else by changing which heros are in formation together. Like maybe a blue mage with Shayd casts a stronger spell together, or Shayd in combination with an archer main makes it shoot a flaming arrow. Or having three horses in the front line does a lancer charge, or Safi front center with two mages behind stretches Shield Wall across the whole front. Or you can choose whether to autofight a battle or manual control and time your skill abilities a'la flash games like Doom Forge, so battles are interactive...I dunno...something , so ones like Valla might still have a purpose and not just be a complete waste of creds. And just more options in customization. As it is everyone ends up with the same heros, with minor differences in base stats and buffs. This creates PVP battles where the end result is just who got the luckier role.
Just sitting in HR and just clicking the button over and over until I finally get that dice roll my stats tell me I'm capable of just gets overly repetitive for my tastes.
The only other currency is time, and just going with daily rewards it would take weeks to get where I want to be. Assuming it goes according to plan, which it never does. I prefer luck in things like rare item drops such as you see on games like Rift, or being able to invest in your own skill tree to customize the output on abilities.
I love Tynon because it's easy and user friendly. As a noob to the UCool universe it just took awhile to turn the system to an advantage, but definitely happier with the results at this point, and enjoying it for what it is, and likely will continue to be based on conversations with past Evonites.
Last edited by xxdannisouthxx_7889427; 10-11-2013 at 04:25 AM. Reason: Forgot stuff
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
-Alice in Wonderland
"I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you **** with me, I'll kill you all."
-Gen. James "Chaos" Mattis, USMC to Iraqi tribal elders
Love how no one has mentioned the labyrinth up to this point because you do have a certain amount of control over it despite the randomness of it. Though I wouldn't mind a purple mage or something to spice up other parts of the game.
Im right there with you on that one Deuc... it took me a good long time to grow tired of evony (3 1/2 years) but it was more so the people in that game that kept me there... The battle mechanic was good enough so that we found new ways to attack in the same old limited forms and especially the month long battles... so many variables. Stuns being the multiplier in EVERY situation really just throws the skill factor out the window to where all you need to know is run cianna and shayd and level your runes... theres not any strategy to it in the long run. I shouldnt be able to beat Matt, because of our power difference, yet i can manipulate form and take 2nd in arena from time to time... same with Skyia... Stuns are too much of a mainstream mechanism and can be exploited to close the power gap where it shouldn't be happening. 5 Heores per battle only gives you so much you can do... I'd love to see something more epic... say REALM WARS... to where each realm fights with ALL members of the realm, not just limited to the guild, OR a free for all... 300 people on each side duking it out could make for some epic warfare with the right motivation and stakes a hand...I see what your saying, and I can see how it would interest some players. My wife, for instance, enjoys the initial building and playing of accounts, not playing for months and months. I'm the direct opposite. I enjoy a game where I can play and build upon something for several months, if not years. Evony stopped introducing new "stuff", so I eventually grew bored of it, but it took 3 years lol
I'm hoping Tynon is the game that never stops, keeps adding new features and hopefully gets away from this whole chance/luck system, and more towards skill and effort. Hey, all I'm asking for right now is a new hero...
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yeah a purple mage that can remove morale would be nice, or purple mage that can hit one straight row. or poison effect could do it. I don't know they should me a purple mage!!!
"Relinquish your pain unto me"
Ok lets talk lab
SO you have the sorcerer stones which unless you are playing a level that is above you ability, is a useless random bonus or punishment
teleport - most random thing in the world - hey lets step on one of those and maybe get sent to the boss
destiny- 110% random - which can determine how well you score. Making 800+ scores random not skill
monster vs trap random and determines your score
transformation - random
What you get on a flip - random - I have scored over 100 700+ scores and only flipped 2 spirit plans. Most of the time I get chips - which because of the unembed costs and the fact they go all the way to level 15, an almost unattainable level, are completely useless.
So when you use skill to achieve something, you are not rewarded well for your hard work.
While i would admit the lab is where you can employ the most skill element in the game, it still purely luck/random
It is also very tedious and boring and takes too long. I used to love doing labs, now they are a chore
Oh and I forgot about the randomness of drop rates as well.
Theres no reason 1 person should fight an hr boss 20 times and get 5 relic plans and the next 5 people can fight it 50 times each and get 2 relic plans per person.
Last edited by mattp169; 10-11-2013 at 02:26 PM.
lol totally. I dread having to go in there for daily points.
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
-Alice in Wonderland
"I come in peace. I didn't bring artillery. But I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you **** with me, I'll kill you all."
-Gen. James "Chaos" Mattis, USMC to Iraqi tribal elders
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