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    Time to leave at least severely cut back playing.

    I still haven't understood why I even liked this game. Honestly from a standpoint of most games i've played it makes no sense in my eyes. But for some reason i have enjoyed it. However I really don't plan to play on a daily basis anymore.

    Games are supposed to be enjoyable. Challenging even. To have a game that does nothing but tick you off over and over isn't worth playing.

    Take the HR bosses.

    I'm at 15.9m power. Still working to get all my ironheart relics from Minister Lasivius(have 3). Most days he dies in 1-5 attempts. Today is a 200 attempt day. The best scene i've hade today, and the one that for most part has helped push me over happened on this boss.

    4 heroes at full HP(never seen that before) all the adds were dead and only boss left.
    Boss wins because today is another day that tyon has decided shayd will not stun boss unless only shayd is alive.

    other reasons? most complain about upgrading heroes with stars and I really don't blame em. 7stars ? whats that. i've never been past 6 and decided the money isn't worth it. Losing What you've paid money for on a failure is Theft. Unless you call Indian giving something else now days.

    So i had fun yes but i've better things to do with my time and money.
    After all pulling the cash out of my wallet and setting it on fire takes less time and gets the same result.

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    This game is literally a casino in disguise. So long as you recognize that it opens your eyes to what's really occurring with charges on certain game mechanics and the "pay-to-win" setup that exists here, with little concern for balance between players. The house always wins and gains are only temporary in nature (unless you keep spending).

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    Gains through coining in tynon are only to get ahead temporarily, not making you of a superior level.
    Sooner or later, everyone will catch up to you if you stop playing (and spending).
    How you spend money, and weighing if being ahead is worth it, is ultimately your decision.

    Heroic realm bosses are a hit-and-miss affair. If something doesn't work right for the first dozen attempts, either rest and try later, or change something up then try again.

    Stars are the icing on top of the cake. They're sweet, they give an additional boost, but they're ultimately not necessary.

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    There is no pay to win. Pay to upgrade yes pay to win no. the boss i've mentioned( minister lascivious). i started killing him at 12.8m power. as i stated i'm now at 15.9m power. Normally the fight ends with me getting a 2 star rating. I use the same formation everytime. The only thing i've done is upgrade power. Tynon's response to power upgrade is increased difficulty of boss. Most games increased power means it's easier to beat a boss not the reverse.

    This is the game maker's way to subtletly piss in your cheerios, and then laugh because you come back for more.
    Last edited by Senile; 10-29-2013 at 06:25 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Senile View Post
    There is no pay to win. Pay to upgrade yes pay to win no. the boss i've mentioned( minister lascivious). i started killing him at 12.8m power. as i stated i'm now at 15.9m power. Normally the fight ends with me getting a 2 star rating. I use the same formation everytime. The only thing i've done is upgrade power. Tynon's response to power upgrade is increased difficulty of boss. Most games increased power means it's easier to beat a boss not the reverse.

    This is the game maker's way to subtletly piss in your cheerios, and then laugh because you come back for more.
    You're just having an unlucky day.

    My suggestion would be to layoff minister for today. Try to place 1-3 in both world boss events. Then do minister again tomorrow.

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    Took me 2 and a half weeks but I got all the Ironheart relics. Sometimes if the game was being particularly unkind I would be hitting Lascivious for the best part of an hour, other times he went down first go.

    The games mechanics are far more complicated then you would think, add in the random factor of Shayd's hits and sometimes you wonder where you went wrong. As the game progesses, using different rune combinations will help you be more successful.

    You haven't said what level hit rune you have, I currently have a lv9 oreciseness and trust me it makes a difference.

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    i've had a level 10 for months. and i wasn't complaining about drop rate. My comment was on increasing power triggers increased boss difficulty. i upped power yesterday by over 400k(hit 90 and opened 2 runeslots). today the result is instead of the normal 1-5 attempts with a 2 star rating on killing boss. I can't kill boss at all.

    Now to most folks that would mean there's something fishy going on. After all why would a boss you haven't had trouble with for a while now be harder after a power increase?

    pay attention some time it's not the first time i've increased power and a boss becomes harder as a result.

    For one Minister Lascivius will hit you for more damage if you increase your HP. his magic damage aoe is %hp based(pull a vitality and see how much he hits for if it's same or less). But increasing power in other areas shouldn't have the same detrimental effect. But according to tynon's game mechanics you would be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
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    senile is actually 100% correct. It has nothing to do with hidden abilities or anything else like that. Power increases actually make hr,quest and banish bosses harder at times. its been proven and it has nothing to do with hidden abilities. It has to do with the programming making no sense to us as players.
    Quote Originally Posted by Senile View Post
    i've had a level 10 for months. and i wasn't complaining about drop rate. My comment was on increasing power triggers increased boss difficulty. i upped power yesterday by over 400k(hit 90 and opened 2 runeslots). today the result is instead of the normal 1-5 attempts with a 2 star rating on killing boss. I can't kill boss at all.

    Now to most folks that would mean there's something fishy going on. After all why would a boss you haven't had trouble with for a while now be harder after a power increase?

    pay attention some time it's not the first time i've increased power and a boss becomes harder as a result.

    For one Minister Lascivius will hit you for more damage if you increase your HP. his magic damage aoe is %hp based(pull a vitality and see how much he hits for if it's same or less). But increasing power in other areas shouldn't have the same detrimental effect. But according to tynon's game mechanics you would be wrong.
    I'll test this out now with Minister in heroic realm.

    I'll equip two of my heroes to have 80k hp each and lets see how much damage he does.

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    Dawnseeker has already stated that Bosses have 'hidden abilities'. Lasicivious increases his damage when his HP drops. Conversely, so does Bloodstorm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan le Fay View Post
    Dawnseeker has already stated that Bosses have 'hidden abilities'. Lasicivious increases his damage when his HP drops. Conversely, so does Bloodstorm.

    All i meant is increase your own Heroe's hp. through upgraded vitality or using the talent(constitution). i upgraded shayd's relic week before last from level 22 to 30 thinking shayd would last longer that way. Boss aoe went from 18k to 20k in retaliation vs shayd.(These numbers were from the very start of fight with no damage on boss). That i could handle i realized immediately aoe was % based damage.
    As i stated yesterday i hit 90 and opened 2 rune slots. One on bloodstorm and one on Shayd. Only runes i have to use currently for them were a Flintiness on bloodstorm(yes would have no effect with the boss mentioned). and I put a messiness rune level 7 on shayd(who didn't have one previously).
    I also increased overall magic defense with my talents yesterday. The result? 200 attempts instead of the normal 1-5 with shayd not stunning(which normally i've noticed only happens to me on a CONSISTANT basis if the day in question is thursday.)

    Yes until today unless it was a thursday. Shayd would not give me problems overall stunning bosses. For over a month now if it was a thursday shayd would not stun if it meant boss would die until you were well over 100 attempts. Whether Tynon has changed this concerning my heros or not remains to be seen(if i bother to check this thursday). Whether anyone else who is reading this has actually paid attention to the days of the week tynon lets your shayd stun or not, mabye you should take notice.

    anyway like i said i enjoyed the game still don't understand why.

    But it's time to let it go.
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