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    Melding- anyone figure this out yet

    SO i was very excited to try out melding in beta.

    It seems you can only meld heroes of the same color - blue to blue - gold to gold etc.
    It seems that you cannot meld a weaker ( and I use that term loosely) hero into a stronger hero. But Im not positive how this is selected to be honest.

    SO I had a 3 star mortal Catherine and it was letting me meld it to my 3 star mortal Cairne. Now on the meld screen it showed 2 stars transferring from Catherine to Cairne. SO I thought this would give me a 5 star Cairne and a 0 star Catherine. WRONG!!!

    I ended up with a 0 star Catherine and a 2 star Cairne

    SO I am completely confused here. Melding the 2 gave me 2 heroes with less stars.


    SO anyone figured this new feature out.

    DAWNSEEKER - I agree its more fun to figure things out, but we may need just a little help on this one - because what happened to me doesnt make sense and may be a glitch or bug or it may have worked exactly as intended - I DON"T HAVE A CLUE. SO if we don't know how the feature is intended to work its a little hard to test it out. Maybe give us the basics of how it is suppose to work with a couple examples.

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    Melding transfers the stars and saint levels from one hero to another.
    The second hero's previous stars and saints are all discarded.

    Imperfect Meld: All star levels minus 1, and all saint levels minus 1, gets transferred from hero 1 to hero 2.
    Perfect Meld: Hero 2 will get the same star and saint levels as Hero 1.

    You cannot meld Hero 1 to Hero 2 if Hero 1 has a lower star or saint level than Hero 2.
    You cannot meld Hero 1 to Hero 2 if the two heroes are a different color.


    And before Morgan comments, I have observed and tested these on various heroes.
    Last edited by Herby; 11-26-2013 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby View Post
    Melding transfers the stars and saint levels from one hero to another.
    The second hero's previous stars and saints are all discarded.

    Imperfect Meld: All star levels minus 1, and all saint levels minus 1, gets transferred from hero 1 to hero 2.
    Perfect Meld: Hero 2 will get the same star and saint levels as Hero 1.

    You cannot meld Hero 1 to Hero 2 if Hero 1 has a lower star or saint level than Hero 2.
    You cannot meld Hero 1 to Hero 2 if the two heroes are a different color.


    And before Morgan comments, I have observed and tested these on various heroes.
    Thanks Herby. As usual your observations are very helpful. I do have some questions:

    1. This one is for Dawnseeker. The definition of Meld is "a thing formed by merging or blending". How is this process a 'meld'? There is no merging or blending.
    2. Why would I ever replace (since that is what it really is) the stars/saint attributes of a hero that more/better starts/saint attributes with the ones from a hero that has less if in the process I loose some of the attributes being transferred? Even if I paid the 100 Gems I will always end up with one Hero (the recipient one) with lesser stars/saint attributes that it started with and one hero (the donor) with no stars/saint attributes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Thanks Herby. As usual your observations are very helpful. I do have some questions:

    1. This one is for Dawnseeker. The definition of Meld is "a thing formed by merging or blending". How is this process a 'meld'? There is no merging or blending.
    2. Why would I ever replace (since that is what it really is) the stars/saint attributes of a hero that more/better starts/saint attributes with the ones from a hero that has less if in the process I loose some of the attributes being transferred? Even if I paid the 100 Gems I will always end up with one Hero (the recipient one) with lesser stars/saint attributes that it started with and one hero (the donor) with no stars/saint attributes.

    Your number 2 is backwards. Hero 1 (the hero merging into the other hero) must have higher stars/sanctifications and be of an equal value (blue, purple, gold). when you meld them hero 2 (the hero being merged into) must have lower stars/sanctifications than hero 1. You would do this if say you had Valla, at half angel III with 8 stars. and you got a great new purple hero that you would much rather use. You would meld Valla into the new hero granting the new hero either Half Angel II with 7 stars(imperfect meld) or Half Angel III with 8 stars (perfect meld). Another great example would be if you were using Rhize and had really awesome saints and stars on him, but then picked up Blood. Obviously you would want to use Blood immediately. So you could transfer the Saints and Stars from Rhize to Blood. Essentially a great way to quickly upgrade new heroes as you move through the ranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrthCaedus View Post
    Your number 2 is backwards. Hero 1 (the hero merging into the other hero) must have higher stars/sanctifications and be of an equal value (blue, purple, gold). when you meld them hero 2 (the hero being merged into) must have lower stars/sanctifications than hero 1. You would do this if say you had Valla, at half angel III with 8 stars. and you got a great new purple hero that you would much rather use. You would meld Valla into the new hero granting the new hero either Half Angel II with 7 stars(imperfect meld) or Half Angel III with 8 stars (perfect meld). Another great example would be if you were using Rhize and had really awesome saints and stars on him, but then picked up Blood. Obviously you would want to use Blood immediately. So you could transfer the Saints and Stars from Rhize to Blood. Essentially a great way to quickly upgrade new heroes as you move through the ranks.
    Sorry about that. I misread Herby's post

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    Yeah i get that much Herby
    BUt apparently when you meld it erases everything the receiving hero has to start with then gives it what the giving hero has

    I thought it would ADD to the receiver while the receiver retained everything it already had.

    Has it been your experience that the receiving hero loses all its original stars and saintings then gets the new ones form the other hero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    Yeah i get that much Herby
    BUt apparently when you meld it erases everything the receiving hero has to start with then gives it what the giving hero has

    I thought it would ADD to the receiver while the receiver retained everything it already had.

    Has it been your experience that the receiving hero loses all its original stars and saintings then gets the new ones form the other hero?
    If it just added to the receiving hero, then we'll see Angel V gold heroes in no time at all.

    It both erases everything the receiving hero has, and gives it a new random set of saints.

    It doesn't copy the giver hero's saint attributes.
    Last edited by Herby; 11-26-2013 at 01:02 PM.

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    Thanks Herby.

    Well I figured my concept of how this melding worked was too good to be true. This is an interesting concept. I will need to think how this could play out to be beneficial in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattp169 View Post
    Thanks Herby.

    Well I figured my concept of how this melding worked was too good to be true. This is an interesting concept. I will need to think how this could play out to be beneficial in the long run.
    I think it's a way to jumpstart all the new heroes, since the heroes who will benefit most from melding are those with no stars or saint attributes.

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    We all know stars are useless the difference between 0 stars and 12 stars is about a level 6 chip worth of damage/defenses.

    Melding will allow moving most of a set of saints which you'd find ideal on another hero. It would be far too powerful a feature if it added 2 heroes saint sets together.

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