Solution to Bots, Macros, Auto-clickers, Mouse Recorders

[Herby]

this is a solution to a non problem. bots doesn't give any negative externalities to other players. The only negative externality they give is the arena. So maybe you'd like to suggest that each arena click cost 1 stamina?

If you have carefully read what I've said, you will see that even the top players have admitted to me of using such methods to surpass heroic and quest bosses. The arena hardly impacts one's progress into the game. You can be a top player even if you're ranked 1000th in the arena. The same cannot be said for quests and heroic realm.

Don't you believe that problems need to be nipped at the bud before they become too big to control?

[Kingpin_7278978]

Lol, bots? Damn i must be a bot because i have been trying to kill a herioc boss for 2 weeks and ya I spam attack him as much as i can , some times for hours,all the while trying to lvl and BS, Talents as much as possible what else is there to do after all the labs are done and cant progress any further in quest, and all 3 pirate sails are done, I dont think all those players spaming the herioc are Bots.... so i disagree with the 1 sta per attempt.

[koja6049]

If you have carefully read what I've said, you will see that even the top players have admitted to me of using such methods to surpass heroic and quest bosses. The arena hardly impacts one's progress into the game. You can be a top player even if you're ranked 1000th in the arena. The same cannot be said for quests and heroic realm.

Don't you believe that problems need to be nipped at the bud before they become too big to control?

You only try to control something if it becomes a nuisance to other people. This is how our law works in real life. You don't go and poke your nose in other people's private life. That being said, auto clicking bosses doesn't pose a nuisance to other people. However, autoclicking arena does, you can luck your way to grab other people's arena chests. Even worse, some top people can use their bot to grab people's chests everytime they had a new one (the top 5 especially).

Quest, bosses -->private in a sense they don't affect other people. Arena --> public as they involve player interaction. And you say the arena hardly impacts one's progress?

[Herby]

You only try to control something if it becomes a nuisance to other people. This is how our law works in real life. You don't go and poke your nose in other people's private life. That being said, auto clicking bosses doesn't pose a nuisance to other people. However, autoclicking arena does, you can luck your way to grab other people's arena chests. Even worse, some top people can use their bot to grab people's chests everytime they had a new one (the top 5 especially).

Quest, bosses -->private in a sense they don't affect other people. Arena --> public as they involve player interaction. And you say the arena hardly impacts one's progress?

You do agree that Tynon is a game, and is separate from real life?

I find it troubling that not only do you disagree with my proposal, but you actually defend those who use autoclickers.

[koja6049]

You do agree that Tynon is a game, and is separate from real life?

I find it troubling that not only do you disagree with my proposal, but you actually defend those who use autoclickers.

Since it's just a game, then why are you trying so hard to propose this non-solution?

Your solution should come hand-in-hand with implementing 1 stamina for every arena click

[Herby]

Since it's just a game, then why are you trying so hard to propose this non-solution?

Your solution should come hand-in-hand with implementing 1 stamina for every arena click

I can clearly see that you are muddling the details of my proposal with something that has clearly nothing to do with it.

Thank you for your feedback.

[koja6049]

I can clearly see that you are muddling the details of my proposal with something that has clearly nothing to do with it.

Thank you for your feedback.

I find it troubling that not only do you disagree with my proposal, but you actually defend those who use autoclickers in arena.

Thank you for your feedback.

[Kingpin_7278978]

Oh Herby, you must have spamed herioc bosses many times during your rise to fame, so why didnt you call for a 1 sta per attempt then? Now that your one of the big boys , your calling for a way to slow down others , it appears you are afraid of others catching up too you. As its stands we need to keep 5 sta to keep trying a boss, after all the rest of our sta is gone doing other things, if they went to 1 sta per attempt then that would slow down the rest of the field considerably .

[Herby]

Oh Herby, you must have spamed herioc bosses many times during your rise to fame, so why didnt you call for a 1 sta per attempt then? Now that your one of the big boys , your calling for a way to slow down others , it appears you are afraid of others catching up too you. As its stands we need to keep 5 sta to keep trying a boss, after all the rest of our sta is gone doing other things, if they went to 1 sta per attempt then that would slow other down the rest of the field considerably .

I'm not a top player, I'm just one of those that can come by. I know a lot of information since I talk to a lot of players.
And no, I have not used any automation software and highly condone those who do.
I have already stated my reasons in one of my previous posts above:


The reasons why I am suddenly coming out with this proposal are:

- The game is heavily being updated daily in beta. If there was a time to propose or suggest changes, I believe now would be the best.
- Heroic realms / Quest bosses are the most important aspects of the game to advance further. If you cannot overcome them, you will not progress.
- More and more people are using automation software to luck themselves out, instead of trying to make their characters more powerful, or thinking of a better strategy to overcome difficult bosses.
- Giving each attempt a stamina cost stops automation software in their tracks. Since no one has unlimited stamina.
- The new Royal Arena Bosses have a stamina cost. Why not include it with Heroic and Quest bosses as well.
- With the introduction of the fast forward button and increased run rate, you can get an attempt at a boss once every 10 seconds.
- Maybe, just maybe, Tynon can increase the rate of stamina generation for everyone.

[Wildflower]

I didn't consider that you can indeed create a loop to catch being bounced out of heroics as well.
Stamina cost seems the only solution, win or lose.

It would be nice to have more stamina in that case.
I find stamina low as it is already with doing 2 lab runs and crafting.
Another solution for me would be to be able to get spirittokens in another way, so one could decide not to spend 60 stamina on it.

It would fit with the current system running in beta to pay stamina win or lose.

(Personally I feel it would suck if it would cost 5 stamina since I am needing about 20 tries to get everything right and luck working for me at the moment XD)